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Maximus Germanicus I
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Topic: Could the nazis have invaded England? Posted: 17-Jul-2010 at 05:01 |
The Royal Navy was too strong, the Germans needed more battleships, Cruisers and destroyers --Subs can't defend landing craft.
Plus the UK did win the BoB
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Posted: 17-Jul-2010 at 06:35 |
Originally posted by red clay
Originally posted by TheGreatSimba
The whole basis of a German invasion was based on German air superiority. If the Germans could have achieved air superiority, no doubt they would have successfully invaded and conquered England. |
Invaded, yes. Conquered ? Like I said, that's a thread all by it's self.
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I think that 3 German panzer divisions would be enough to cush Brititish army in Britain
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Posted: 17-Jul-2010 at 09:28 |
Originally posted by Mosquito
Originally posted by red clay
Originally posted by TheGreatSimba
The whole basis of a German invasion was based on German air superiority. If the Germans could have achieved air superiority, no doubt they would have successfully invaded and conquered England. |
Invaded, yes. Conquered ? Like I said, that's a thread all by it's self.
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I think that 3 German panzer divisions would be enough to cush Brititish army in Britain |
Yeah but they have to land first.
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Posted: 17-Jul-2010 at 09:34 |
In 1940 air suprierity would not have equalled naval. The Germans did not have any anti aircraft planes, apart from the stuka. Which was too slow, and too easy to shoot down. Naval wise they had nothing that would avoid the Home Fleet simply sailing into the channel and sinking the invasion force at will. By 1940 the channel was a near no go zone for u-boats because of british mines. The Royal Navy would know where the channels through those mines were, and could slip into the Channel without worrying about U-Boats.
As for the River Barges, they might be strong and well built. But they are not designed for use at sea. The Channel is one of the most dangerous stretches of water in Northern Europe. It often gets hit by squalls that rush up the Channel. River Barges hit by one of them would simply not be able to handle it. As for the small ships at Dunkirk, they were designed for use at sea. So they would be better able to handle the bad conditions.
The German Navy had washed it's hands of any plan to invade England. Because, it knew that the plan was fatally flawed from the begining. If they had no faith in it, why should we.
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Posted: 17-Jul-2010 at 14:35 |
Yet Clarkson made it across in the crappy car boat thing.
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Posted: 17-Jul-2010 at 15:43 |
There exists almost any evidence that would dispute that "Air Cover" and "control", was the greatest impediment to any attempt to invade England!
Barges, of almost any type, are by design, almost immune to seas and weather conditions! It is the motivation behind or in front of the barges that have to be considered!
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Posted: 18-Jul-2010 at 12:23 |
Originally posted by warwolf1969
In 1940 air suprierity would not have equalled naval. The Germans did not have any anti aircraft planes, apart from the stuka. Which was too slow, and too easy to shoot down. Naval wise they had nothing that would avoid the Home Fleet simply sailing into the channel and sinking the invasion force at will. By 1940 the channel was a near no go zone for u-boats because of british mines. The Royal Navy would know where the channels through those mines were, and could slip into the Channel without worrying about U-Boats.
As for the River Barges, they might be strong and well built. But they are not designed for use at sea. The Channel is one of the most dangerous stretches of water in Northern Europe. It often gets hit by squalls that rush up the Channel. River Barges hit by one of them would simply not be able to handle it. As for the small ships at Dunkirk, they were designed for use at sea. So they would be better able to handle the bad conditions.
The German Navy had washed it's hands of any plan to invade England. Because, it knew that the plan was fatally flawed from the begining. If they had no faith in it, why should we. |
The only thing that the Luft. lacked was a long range heavy bomber. They had an adequate number of medium bombers.
So you think that only Britain had ships designed for the sea? Take a look at the coastline they[Nazis] controlled.
I would imagine that they could have found a more than equal number of good seaworthy small craft on the stretch of coast that they controlled.
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