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Gazi
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Topic: What is the cruelest army on Earth? Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 06:03 |
I think the crusaders were the most bloodthirsty and cruel.They left nearly nothing alive on their way to Jerusalem.Jerusalem had been invaded many times before but had never seen such slaughter.
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Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 06:03 |
Originally posted by Jorsalfar
"We were on your side in the WW2"
What did Turkey do during the war?
Werent you neutral?
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We joined towards the end of the war.
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Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 06:06 |
Originally posted by Gazi
I think the crusaders were the most bloodthirsty and cruel.They left nearly nothing alive on their way to Jerusalem.Jerusalem had been invaded many times before but had never seen such slaughter.
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Well said Gazi.
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Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 16:17 |
A 10000 Muslims were killed in the first invasion of Jerusalem???
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Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 16:57 |
Originally posted by aknc
Originally posted by Jorsalfar
"We were on your side in the WW2"
What did Turkey do during the war?
Werent you neutral?
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We joined towards the end of the war. |
That was just a formal thingy. It was two months before the end of the
war, when everyone (exept Hitler) was sure the allies were going win anyway.
Did Turkey actually fight during World War II?
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Posted: 18-Mar-2005 at 04:46 |
So few votes for the Red Army???
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Gazi
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Posted: 18-Mar-2005 at 05:43 |
Originally posted by MixcoatlToltecahtecuhtli
Originally posted by aknc
Originally posted by Jorsalfar
"We were on your side in the WW2"
What did Turkey do during the war?
Werent you neutral?
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We joined towards the end of the war.
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That was just a formal thingy. It was two months before the end of the war, when everyone (exept Hitler) was sure the allies were going win anyway.
Did Turkey actually fight during World War II?
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No
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aknc
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Posted: 18-Mar-2005 at 10:00 |
Originally posted by rider
A 10000 Muslims were killed in the first invasion of Jerusalem??? |
Yes.As Gazi said the crusaders massackered everywhere,killed everyone.
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aknc
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Posted: 18-Mar-2005 at 10:04 |
think the Roman legions were pretty bloodthirsty too.When Carthage was conquered the order was "Kill everybody you meet".But that was not enough.They stabbed the cows,cut the babies,raped dead bodies,chopped the dogs in half and salted the fields so nothing could grow there.
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Posted: 18-Mar-2005 at 12:26 |
Maybe it is because i haven't read about the atrocities commited by
Japanese other than 1937., but i gave my vote to the Red Army during
Stalin. Raping a million women during the time they were "liberating"
Europe from nazis is pretty animal-like. |
That million was contained moistly to Berlin. And whatever happenned to the Germans they deserved that and more.
So few votes for the Red Army??? |
That's primarily because most people tend to have perspective and less
bias, not to mention that the majority lack obsession with communism.
Although if the Nazis were here I would vote for them. Japan is a close
second and a Nazi ally so it gets my vote.
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Posted: 18-Mar-2005 at 12:35 |
Originally posted by Gazi
I think the crusaders were the most bloodthirsty and cruel.They left nearly nothing alive on their way to Jerusalem.Jerusalem had been invaded many times before but had never seen such slaughter.
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It wasnt just muslims they killed either. Their first act was to sack Byzantium, the so called eastern capital of Christianity. After they had actually gotten to the Holy Land the crusaders killed many Jews and also some Armenian and Syrian Christians who were living in the levent.
Likewise when th Teutonic Knights invaded Poland and the Baltic states they slaughtered pagan and converted christian indiscriminately.
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Posted: 18-Mar-2005 at 12:52 |
I know,
And the Red Army has so few votes , because none of the Read Army "friends" is here! lol. I see you voted for them. I voted, i think for the Red Army, because i saw the crusaders too lately.
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Posted: 18-Mar-2005 at 19:21 |
Originally posted by aknc
think the Roman legions were pretty bloodthirsty
too.When Carthage was conquered the order was "Kill everybody you
meet".But that was not enough.They stabbed the cows,cut the
babies,raped dead bodies,chopped the dogs in half and salted the fields
so nothing could grow there. |
Why kill the cattle why you use it for a source of food and transporttation?
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"I came, I saw, and I conquered... but only for the weekend"
"This is my tank, this is my weapon, and this is my pride."
"Power comes from a barrel of a gun."
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Posted: 18-Mar-2005 at 20:14 |
The Serbians, especially the Arkanovci or Arkans Tigers.
The serbian Unit was founded of a Serbian-American (Arkan Zeljko Raznatovic), who was a serial bankrobber and Theaf in Western-Europe, then gots tha Mafia Boss of Belgrade.
As the the Secession-Wars in Croatia and Bosnia 1991 begun, he formed a Unit which consists of Mafiosi, Hooligans, Prisoners and other socipaths. His Unit commited the Most of the Serbian War Crimes like Killings of Civilians (even children), rape, and Louting... he louted so much in Croatia and Bosnia later that he gots one of the richest Men of South-East Europe. He also led Concentration-Camps for Non-Serbs...
He forced the best known Yugoslaw Diva to marry him, or else he would kill her. He behaved like a King. After the Attack of Nato-Forces on Serbia due to the Genocid in Kosovo, the regime of Milosevic (His Boss) troubled, he was "shooted".
Nearly everybody believes that this Monster is still alive.
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Posted: 18-Mar-2005 at 21:55 |
It wasnt just muslims they killed either. Their first act was to sack Byzantium, the so called eastern capital of Christianity. After they had actually gotten to the Holy Land the crusaders killed many Jews and also some Armenian and Syrian Christians who were living in the levent.
Likewise when th Teutonic Knights invaded Poland and the Baltic states they slaughtered pagan and converted christian indiscriminately |
First sorry about my mistake concerning turks during WW2 allying the axis.
About crusaders please note, crusaders were only christians by name and they were acting contrairy to the christian doctrine of peace and love. Again this was medieval time. I'm a catholic, but I have no pretention haven't been to church for years and certainly don't behave like a catholic is supposed to do. It's not christianism the fault, it's me and the society sure do encourage my behaviour.
Now let have a look on the other side, the muslim. They are invaders and destroyer of civilisation, the once mighty and civilised Persian went under their swords, proving my point. What a loss to mankind this was. Now can argue the muslims weren't following the Islamic doctrine. Invasion and conquest of other people to impose thei religion is in their doctrine, Mohammed was a warrior himself. So the fault doesn't lie in the people but in their doctrine. And this is a far worse reality.
Please note I'm not talking from a religious POV (I'm more an atheist anyway and I'm not a racist ) but from historical POV. Now all muslims were supposed to be warriors weren't they, but since they couldn't follow their doctrines, their behaviour changed and they rather settled down. my point can "Christians" and muslims coexist, possible, but don't you politicians take the bloody risk of trying it.
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Posted: 19-Mar-2005 at 06:18 |
Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl
It wasnt just muslims they killed either. Their first act was to sack Byzantium, the so called eastern capital of Christianity. After they had actually gotten to the Holy Land the crusaders killed many Jews and also some Armenian and Syrian Christians who were living in the levent.
Likewise when th Teutonic Knights invaded Poland and the Baltic states they slaughtered pagan and converted christian indiscriminately |
First sorry about my mistake concerning turks during WW2 allying the axis.
About crusaders please note, crusaders were only christians by name and they were acting contrairy to the christian doctrine of peace and love. Again this was medieval time. I'm a catholic, but I have no pretention haven't been to church for years and certainly don't behave like a catholic is supposed to do. It's not christianism the fault, it's me and the society sure do encourage my behaviour.
Now let have a look on the other side, the muslim. They are invaders and destroyer of civilisation, the once mighty and civilised Persian went under their swords, proving my point. What a loss to mankind this was. Now can argue the muslims weren't following the Islamic doctrine. Invasion and conquest of other people to impose thei religion is in their doctrine, Mohammed was a warrior himself. So the fault doesn't lie in the people but in their doctrine. And this is a far worse reality.
Please note I'm not talking from a religious POV (I'm more an atheist anyway and I'm not a racist ) but from historical POV. Now all muslims were supposed to be warriors weren't they, but since they couldn't follow their doctrines, their behaviour changed and they rather settled down. my point can "Christians" and muslims coexist, possible, but don't you politicians take the bloody risk of trying it.
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NO.Muslims are not destroyers and plague bearers blahblahblah....'m an atheist.nOt muslim not christian.But i know that the original religion said to love charish and use sciece,enlightment.t changed over the years of the prophet's death.And the persian empire;the CVLSED GREEKS burned it down too.Guess they asked for it.
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Gazi
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Posted: 19-Mar-2005 at 08:00 |
Originally posted by aknc
Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl
It wasnt just muslims they killed either. Their first act was to sack Byzantium, the so called eastern capital of Christianity. After they had actually gotten to the Holy Land the crusaders killed many Jews and also some Armenian and Syrian Christians who were living in the levent.
Likewise when th Teutonic Knights invaded Poland and the Baltic states they slaughtered pagan and converted christian indiscriminately |
First sorry about my mistake concerning turks during WW2 allying the axis.
About crusaders please note, crusaders were only christians by name and they were acting contrairy to the christian doctrine of peace and love. Again this was medieval time. I'm a catholic, but I have no pretention haven't been to church for years and certainly don't behave like a catholic is supposed to do. It's not christianism the fault, it's me and the society sure do encourage my behaviour.
Now let have a look on the other side, the muslim. They are invaders and destroyer of civilisation, the once mighty and civilised Persian went under their swords, proving my point. What a loss to mankind this was. Now can argue the muslims weren't following the Islamic doctrine. Invasion and conquest of other people to impose thei religion is in their doctrine, Mohammed was a warrior himself. So the fault doesn't lie in the people but in their doctrine. And this is a far worse reality.
Please note I'm not talking from a religious POV (I'm more an atheist anyway and I'm not a racist ) but from historical POV. Now all muslims were supposed to be warriors weren't they, but since they couldn't follow their doctrines, their behaviour changed and they rather settled down. my point can "Christians" and muslims coexist, possible, but don't you politicians take the bloody risk of trying it.
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NO.Muslims are not destroyers and plague bearers blahblahblah....'m an atheist.nOt muslim not christian.But i know that the original religion said to love charish and use sciece,enlightment.t changed over the years of the prophet's death.And the persian empire;the CVLSED GREEKS burned it down too.Guess they asked for it.
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The Arabs did spread Islam by forcing the people they conquered but it was still more tolerant than Christian Europe at that time (or up to the early 17th century)
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Posted: 19-Mar-2005 at 08:33 |
In WW2,Turkey agreed a pact with Britain and France at the start of the war.According to this pact,Turkish Army would be an allied country when Germans if had done sth dangerous for Turkey.And USSR,Britain and France would have used Turkish bases and harbours.
When it comes to the crueliest;Crusades were really maniac.They weren't fierce only against the Muslims,they killed so many Jews and Orthodoxes.
- In the first crusade,near Iznik,they even killed the new born babies and they grilled those babies on fire.
- In the same Crusade,in Antioch they killed the everyone they saw in the city.
- While they were on the road to Jerusalem they murdered everyone they see;Historian Radulfus Cadomensis said that:"Our soldiers cooked Muslims in meal cauldrons and they stabbed the children on the fire."
There are lots of like these;if you want I will write;but these are already disgusting enough I think.
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Posted: 19-Mar-2005 at 08:37 |
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Posted: 20-Mar-2005 at 12:57 |
conquistadores win my vote
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