Lu Bu vs Arnie

     what do you guys think?

   Mods: feel free to move this to the Historical Amusement..later on, not now..

So who is this Lu Bu guy?

Is he an Asian action movie star, or something?

Edited by Landsknecht_Doppelsoldner

   this is Lu Bu

Heh, if only babyblue.

And to read something more factual than you would find in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms, try this: http://kongming.net/novel/sgz/lubu.php

Indeed, why did you choose Arnie?

L� Bu was a Chinese warrior around about, oh, 1,800 years ago. He became famous for his martial prowess, as well as his tendency to betray...

Aww... are you saying that because it was recorded by a Chinese historian, or is it something deeper? Objective reading? Fine, give me some sources that you would consider to be objective, and I'll read them.

A few of his exploits were indeed exaggerated... in the novel that was written during the Ming dynasty. However, the Sanguo Zhi was a historical account of the era, painstakingly put together. It's considered as the primary source.

What did I mean? I've just noticed that you tend to be more "skeptical" towards Chinese historians than any others. It's not something that happens all the time, but from my point of view, it is a tendency that you have.

Originally posted by Tobodai more lol, no I actually find CVhinese historians more reliable than most if not all, I just like to question it more because of all the obnoxious Chinese nationalists that I cant stand.

this is rather biased i would have to say. as a moderator, you should not choose some source over another. at least not in the public.

Bad comparision in my view.  How do they fight with each other? Lu uses his Ji and a rifle in Arnie's hand? I got a better idea, how about Maximus (Roman figure in Gladiator) Vs Lu Bu? More interesting , huh.

anyone with even half a brain should be abel to tell if source A is better than source b.  Chinese historians are consistently reliable (at least after Shi Huang Ti era) and its merely a fact that they work in less religiously oriented bias than most people can achieve.

Although my all time favorite historian is Ibn Khaldun, and hes not Chinese so its not all one way.

In Europe Roman sources tend to be quite good if you can cut through propoganda but medieval sources are often terrible.  Ancient Egyptian sources are almost totally unreliable and filled with crap for the most part...its all objective, and I preserve the right to be objective.