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    Posted: 15-Feb-2005 at 22:32

Apocalypse.Is the world at a state of apocalypse,as said in the Bible.There are passages in the bible implying the coming of Apocalypse,especially relevant in the book of Revelations.The Four Horsemen of Apocalpyse,one for war,which is happening as we speak,one for natural disasters,which can show,for South Asia had a Tsunami,southern US and Carribean had 4 Hurricanes,volcano eruptions,and deadly earthquakes,one for disease plague,which might sweep southeast Asia,and one for hunger,which hasn't happen yet,or will it?Are you superstitious and believe in the Apocalypse?

There are also some messages in some hebrew inscriptions predicting the coming of the 9/11 event and,with the inclusion of the words "Two","Towers".Do you believe in the Apocalypse?


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  Quote Tobodai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Feb-2005 at 22:40

HA HA HA HA HA HA

They actually had the gall to invite a bunch of religious kooks on news programs to talk about this like it was a legitimate discusiion.  PLease, alot worse has happened to the Earth before, the San Francisco quake, the extinction of the dinsosaurs, both world wars, the black plague, the influenza epidemic, numerous devastating volcano eruptions, astroid imapcts small and large, ....

The earth is a devastating and violent place, and just because one year happens to be slighly more deadly than another surely doesnt mean anyhthing per se has changed.

There are 3 ways humanity can end...naturally we evolve into something else or become obsolete in the natural world (least likely)

We nuke each other out of existence.

Or, we get hit by a large enough astroiud to cause mass extinction, this is the most likely way we will die.

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  Quote Vamun Tianshu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Feb-2005 at 22:42

I do not believe in an apocalypse.This all has to do with Earth,and the people that live here.Due to excessive industrial decisions,many have to face the consequence,because what we do with our environment can affect how the weather and the earth works.War is purely a doing of man,a barbaric incision through the hearts of many,something purely made by man.Disease is something you must live with,it is the germs and bacteria in the earth's atmosphere.As for hunger,blame it on agriculture,or a careless government seeking only its own salvation.

 


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But Tobodai. Bush is president of teh US! We're all gonna DIE!!!11!!1!
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  Quote Vamun Tianshu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Feb-2005 at 22:46
Originally posted by Tobodai

HA HA HA HA HA HA

They actually had the gall to invite a bunch of religious kooks on news programs to talk about this like it was a legitimate discusiion.  PLease, alot worse has happened to the Earth before, the San Francisco quake, the extinction of the dinsosaurs, both world wars, the black plague, the influenza epidemic, numerous devastating volcano eruptions, astroid imapcts small and large, ....

The earth is a devastating and violent place, and just because one year happens to be slighly more deadly than another surely doesnt mean anyhthing per se has changed.

There are 3 ways humanity can end...naturally we evolve into something else or become obsolete in the natural world (least likely)

We nuke each other out of existence.

Or, we get hit by a large enough astroiud to cause mass extinction, this is the most likely way we will die.

I wholeheartedly agree with you.Religion was made by man,the Bible was made by man,inscriptions are made by man,the imagination of what one seeks or desires.Apocalypse or not,we must all live with what we have,religious propaganda and utterly useless documentaries aren't going to change whats happening to our Earth.


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  Quote Tobodai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Feb-2005 at 22:48

Originally posted by sennacherib

But Tobodai. Bush is president of teh US! We're all gonna DIE!!!11!!1!

 

no, only me and other constitutionalists, and maybe a few stupid hippies, but I sure as hell wont mourn their passing.....

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Originally posted by sennacherib

But Tobodai. Bush is president of teh US! We're all gonna DIE!!!11!!1!

He is Satan himself, with a southern accent!

An nescite quantilla sapientia mundus regatur?
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  Quote Vamun Tianshu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Feb-2005 at 22:52
Bush might be president of the US,but what about other countries with foolish political leaders?Why only talk about Bush?He isn't the only one out there!

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Because Bush's family is tied into the Illuminati and the Trilateralists. Why do you think Bush keeps giving that "thumb's up" sign? It's a signal to his demonic cadre, particularly the Bilderbergs, that the end is coming. Look closely at Bush's thumbprint and you will see wavy rings... the rings represent the concentric yokes of power Bush wishes to place on the world... military, economic, and spiritual. THREE RINGS. There are more rings that are secret on his thumb, but those three are definitely there. Kim of North Korea is only Bush's stooge. he is there to keep things stoked up until Bush is ready for The Final Solution (which is Texas Uber Alles). You thought only steers and queers came from Texas? Hardly. Death is riding with them, on a Pink Angus of Destruction.
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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Feb-2005 at 23:27
with the inclusion of the words "Two","Towers"


Bah, that already happened in the days of Middle Earth.
Arrrgh!!"
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  Quote Vamun Tianshu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Feb-2005 at 04:38
heh,basically,you are right.

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Originally posted by Tobodai

HA HA HA HA HA HA


They actually had the gall to invite a bunch of religious kooks on news programs to talk about this like it was a legitimate discusiion. PLease, alot worse has happened to the Earth before, the San Francisco quake, the extinction of the dinsosaurs, both world wars, the black plague, the influenza epidemic, numerous devastating volcano eruptions, astroid imapcts small and large, ....


The earth is a devastating and violent place, and just because one year happens to be slighly more deadly than another surely doesnt mean anyhthing per se has changed.


There are 3 ways humanity can end...naturally we evolve into something else or become obsolete in the natural world (least likely)


We nuke each other out of existence.


Or, we get hit by a large enough astroiud to cause mass extinction, this is the most likely way we will die.



Let me further elaborate on your post:

HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Every generation of religious fanatics want history to end with themselves. They all want their time to be the end of times. Somehow, "Jesus" refuses to come. The black plague was worse, the influenza pandemic was worse, the fall of Rome, a truely remarkable empires was worse.

Also, noticed how many Christian fundamentalists keep thinking that things that happen to the U.S. will mark the end of times? There wasn't even the U.S. when Jesus was roaming the world!
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  Quote Atourian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Feb-2005 at 17:47
No but I believe a new bible is being created based on the historical events happening since the last one was complete. Thousands of years keep in mind is how long I am talking about.
If I knew Apocolypse really is approaching, I would not dwell on it. I believe in Heaven!
Our earth is degenerate in these latter days; bribery and corruption are common; children no longer obey their parents; the end of the world is evidently approaching.
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I'm wondering about these possible matches for the 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse/Revelation(s) chapter 6?

1st white horseman (bow/covenant & crown) "conquest"
= Napoleon 1 1792/1804-15?
Napoleon was "one of the greatest conquerors of world history".
Napoleon had a "(greyish) white" or "(light) gray" Arabian horse Marengo or Coco.
bow = concordat? (&/or law Code?)
&/or,
Christianity/Catholicism/Pope?
crown = crowned emperor? pope's tiara?

2nd red/fiery horseman "(declaration of) war (& bloodshed) / mass slaughter" (great sword)
= (American civil war &/or) the Great War / World War 1 1914-18
&/or Revolutions 1755/1776-1810/1848 &/or Communism?
great sword ~ sickle?

3rd black horseman "inflation/famine"
= (Industrial Revolution, &/or) "galloping inflation" 1920s (& the Great Depression/Slump 1929-39) (& capitalism) (&/or fascism?)
Black Tuesday 1929 (cp Black Friday 1873).
"1c Restaurant", "[$]1 will feed 20".)
"[no other depressions] have had such a widespread global impact"
 
4th chlorus/(ashy-)pale(-&-livid)/pallid/green(ish-yellow)/(yellowish-)green/ashen/creamy-white/black-&-blue horseman "thanatos/death (& hades)"
= maybe World War 2 1939-45 (&/or Cold War)?
(Hitler survived yellow-cross mustard [or chlorine?] gas attack?
Aryan/white/pale?
&/or Churchill's complexion was "pasty" & his hands "white"?)

(Not certain of the 4th/last one but is seeming best match so far.)

As too other historical events mentioned in previous posts in this thread i will just say that they must fall in their right place in the biblical overall world history timeline from Genesis to Revelation/Apocalypse.

(Found two other apocalypse topics/threads in the forum too:
http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29636
http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=14299&KW=apocalypse )


Edited by Arthur-Robin - 04-Apr-2017 at 01:24
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I wonder what the folks who started this thread would say about the present world sit.

These days the nitely news sometimes looks like old "Laugh In" reruns.
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A.R. starts apocalypse!Wink
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Thanks.
Maybe there hasn't been much enough change since 2005 to 2017 for them to have much different thoughts?
I may have got them slightly wrong ("thanks" to fluoridated water hindering my ability and health for years & still). May possibly be 1 christianity/catholicism, 2 socialism, 3 capitalism & 4 facism? Have edited the previous post abit.
(4 Horsemen might also link with red, white & black of Nazi flag, and/or with the 4 Freedoms?)

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7 churches:

1st Ephesus (means "desirable"/"overseer/rule")
(details of Ephesus & church from history and Revelation 2 : visited/founded by Paul, letter to Ephesians, "apostles", capital of Ionia, on Aegean sea, zealous, one of chief centres of Eastern church / important centre of christianity /Christian centre of Asia, important commercial city, capital of province of Asia, importance as a religious centre, temple Artemis/Diana [virgin goddess], substantial Jewish population, home of Timothy, John, noted for commerce, learning, architecture, Nicolatines)
=
Apostolic/Early Church centred at Jerusalem.

...

7th church Laodiceans (meaning "just(ice of the) people"/"people ruler")
(details of Laodicea & church from history and Revelation 3 : founded by queen Laodice wife of Antiochus II, ancient Diospolis, city of Phrygia, important city, on river Lycus, seat of an early christian church, lukewarm, centre of Asclepius god of medicine worship, commercial & manufatcuring town, large Jewish population, centre in Roman road-system, the only 1 of the 7 churches with plural people-name not singular place-name, Amen, witness, creation, gold, eyesalve, Jesus on outside, sup, throne, isolated in community, near Colossae, name of several anc Greek cities, namesake of chief port of Syria)
=
London? Modern western world church.

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More to come on the Beast, and the harlot "Babylon" if/when able.


Edited by Arthur-Robin - 04-Apr-2017 at 01:36
"Community Fluoridation" = Communism. It is wrong/evil/slavery for the elite & common majority to force some of us non-rich to eat water with alot of fluoride every meal every day.
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Sorry nevermind, forget it. The 4 horsemen is all wrong. I have made a stupid dumb idiot fool of myself again (though i declare that i can prove that my dumbness is at least half because of the fluoridated water forced on me for decades and still every meal every day, etc long harming/hindering my ability and hindering my [good, paper, reference] studies). The events of Revelation/Apocalypse chapters 6-11 could be anytime between the time of John and the present/future, and there are a number of scenarios which i can't yet determine which is right (eg the horsemen could be at the early end of a.d. history just after John's & 7 historical churches time, or the 4 horsemen could match Spenglars 4 seasons and be between John's time and the present/future, or they could be at the later end after 7 churches ages like the scenario we posted above?)
Maybe there is no God, since the evil Romans/globalists/Aryans/masons keep getting away with poisoning/hindering me & my ability & studies.

4 horsemen: white red black pale
4 living creatures: lion, ox/bull, man/angel, eagle/aquilo/scorpio/serpens
4 beasts (Daniel): lion bear leopard beast/dragon/composite
4 archangels: Michael Raphael Gabriel Uriel
4 ages: gold/head silver/chest/arms brazen/thighs iron/legs
4 seasons (Spenglar): spring summer autumn winter
4 rivers: pishon/havilah gihon/cush hiddekel/tigris/asshur euphrates

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The (1st/Sea) Beast of Rev 13 ~ the EU?
7/8 heads ~ G7/G8?

(The Harlot "Babylon" riding the beast (Rev 19) ~ Vatican (& Mecca)?)

The 2nd/Earth Beast / Lamb-Dragon of Rev 13 ~ the US(A)?

The Image of the Beast ~ the UN(O)?

Could 666 or 616 the mark/name/number of the Beast / a man be connected with Uncle Sam, or America/Amerigo?
In Hebrew numerals:
(Uncle) Sam = 60-1-600 (= 661) [= 616?]
US(A) = 6-60(-1) (= 66(+1)).
(Samuel) Adams / Adam S(mith) = 1-4-1-600-60 = 666.

(Disclaimer: Whatever things i might be wrong/dumb about doesn't mean that i am all/always wrong about everything (&/or that others are all/always right), there are somethings that i am certainly right and not wrong about (&/or are things others/orthodox are certainly wrong and not right about). Plus, the things i am wrong/dumb about are at least half because of the bad/harmful/poison fluoridated (and other ingredients) tap (&/or bottled) water forced on me.)


Edited by Arthur-Robin - 09-Apr-2017 at 09:52
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Looks like i made another stupid dumb mistake. Seems the 666 must be Roman, or else Masonic. Also i remembered something i forgot about the word therion "(small wild) beast", and that it says "man" not "a man" or "certain man".
The Sea Beast is either the EU (or G7), or Roman Empire, or Atlantis.
The image must be either UNO or USA or EU (or Statue of Liberty, or Babel). The 2nd Earth Beast might be either Masonry or USA. (I wondered if lamb-dragon could link with Baphomet?) USA is either the Earth Beast or the Image?
The 2 horns of the 2nd/Earth/Lamb-Dragon Beast i'm not sure but candidates include: 2 horns of Baphomet? Republican & Democrats? President & Vice President? EU & Eur Commission? Twin Towers? Washington & NYC?

These are the 666 (or 616)* candidates i've collected or come up with:
(* Note that 666 is alternatively 616 in some early manuscripts.)

Sum of numbers 0/1 to 36 (on a roulette wheel) = 666.

Synod of Whitby 665 ad.

66 books of English Bible.

legion 6000/6200/6666 men (Geoff of Monmouth)?
[6000/[6666?] dead Geoff of Monmouth.]
60000/3 x 6666 men [Arthurian?]

1666 ad/ce.

Sorath = s 60 o 6 r 200 th 400 = 666.

Fluorine atomic mass 18(.9984) = 3x6 = 666. Fluorine = atomic no 9 = 18 = 666. Fluorine = F = 6(th letter).

Ludovicus (Louis / "chief vicar of the court of Rome") = l 50 u 5 d 500 o 0 v 5 i 1 c 100 u 5 s 0 = 666.

Sum of all 6 Roman numerals D C L X V I = 666.
(Millenium = M = C + I + inverse-C = 616?)

Dux Cleri = d 500 u 5 x 10 c 0 l 50 e 0 r 0 i 1 = 666.

Paulo V Vice Deo = p 0 a 0 u 5 l 50 o 0 v 5 v 5 i 1 c 100 e 0 d 500 e 0 o 0 = 666.

"emperor Caligula" / Gaios Kaisar / Caius Caligula Caesar =  g 3 a 1 i 10 o 70 s 200 k 20 a 1 i 10 s 200 a 1 r 100, or, g 3 simkath 60 q 100 l 30 g 3 simkath 60 q 100 simkath 60 r 200 = 616.

"St Peter" "died 67 ad", "aged 66 y.o." [= Nero died 68 ad. (or great fire 64 ad?)]
Nero(n) (Caesar) = n 50 r 200 w 6 n 50 q 100 s 60 r 200 = 666/616. (666 = 3 6s, and, "*3* false claimants did present themselves as Nero resurrected".)

Domitianus Caesar Legatos Xti Violenter Interfecit "DC basely killed the envoys of Christ" [Clement 1 = Domitian ("reincarnated Nero"), cf Clementine 2].

Mussolini = 666.

Romiith = 666

Latinus/Lateinos = l 30 a 1 t 300 e 5 i 10 n 50 o 70 s 200 = 666.

Stur/Saturn/Sator / Rotas = s 200 t 60 u 400 r 6 = 666

266th Pope Francis (& 266th day 2015).
Catholic Encycopedia & Fathers "all for only $19.99".

Vicarius Fili Dei = v 5 i 1 c 100 a 0 r 0 i 1 u 5 s 0 f 0 i 1 l 50 i 1 d 500 e 0 i 1 = 666.

Trijon/trjvn "little beast" = t 400 r 200 y 10 v 6 n 50 = 666. (Trojan? Trajan = Trojanu.)

Jesus/Iesus/Iesous = i 10 e 0 s 300 o 0 u 6 s 300 = 616. [Catholic "Jesus" is either Zeus or Julius Caesar or Augustus Caesar or Claudius (since the 1st 40+ "popes" really match the Roman emperors list, with "Peter" matching Nero).]

Italika Ekklesia = i 10 t 300 a 1 l 30 i 10 k 20 a 1 e 5 k 20 k 20 l 30 e 8 s 200 i10 a 1 = 666.

He Latine Basileia = h 0 e 8 l 30 a 1 t 300 i 10 n 50 e 8 b 2 a 1 s 200 i 10 l 30 e 5 i 10 a 1 = 666.

Kaisar Theos "Lord God" = 616.

'Sex' (= hex) is similar to Greek letters which have numerical value 666.

Arnoume "i renounce" = a 1 r 100 n 50 o 70  m 40 e 5 = 666.

Therion "(small wild) beast" = Tav (400) + Resh (200) (+ He (5)) + Yod (10) (+ O (6))+ Nun (50) = 665/666.

T(e)itan = t 300 e 5 i 10 t 300 a 1 n 50 = 666 = 18 = 9.

Euporia "wealth" = 666.

Paradosis "tradition" = 666.

Maometis/Mohammed/Baphomet = m 40 a 1 o 70 m 40 e 5 t 300 i 10 s 200 = 666.

66th volume of Oxyrhynchus series.

Allah letters like 666.
6666 verses koran?
661 ad.
666 Greek letters similar to Arabic word Bismallah.

Nebuchadnezzer/Nebekednesser = Nu (50) + Eta (8) + Beta (2) + Kappa (20) + Eta (8) + Delta (4) + Nu (50) + Eta (8) + Sigma (200) + Sigma (200) + Eta (8) + Rho (l00) = 666/663/669, & = 6th century bc.
Rome = Babel/Babylon/BBL/BethBethLamed = Sheshak/ShShQ = shesh(meot)/shisha "six/sixty/six-hundred".
Sumerians/Babylonians had sexagesimal (base 6 / 60) numerical system. (Sosoi "60".)

6666 dead Mahabharata

1656 yrs + 1 yr x 10 = 1666 yrs pre-flood (Masoretic).
2656/2666 yrs preflood in Sept/Lxx / Josephus.
Exodus was 2666 yrs a.m. in Jewish.
[600(000) men &/or families in Exodus.]
Giants had 6 digits.

Juda(h)/Iovd(a)/Judas/Iovdain = 66(6)/661
666 talents Solomon.
Adonikam 666 descs.
613/693 Mosaic laws.
6 letters Yhwh's "God's" name
[Jesus/Yeshua has value 888.]
6th seal, 6th trump, 6th vial.

Kissinger = k 11x6 i 9x6 s 19x6 i 9x6 n 14x6 g 7x6 e 5x6 r 18x6
 = 666.

WWW = 666.

"1616" on (salty) cheese
"9.99 percent" (Fonterra, etc). $99/99c.
Smartmeters planned in NZ in 1999.
1999 Holiness Data Ministries booklet on prayer.

(uncle) sam = 60-1-600 (= 661) [= 616?]
us(a) = 6-60(-1) (= 66(+1)).
(samuel) adams / adam s(mith) = 1-4-1-600-60 = 666.
KKK = 11-11-11 (= 33) = 6.
US pastor with 666 tatoo.
USA, UK, USSR = vaw vaw vaw (= 666)?
2015 bill 666 (renamed bill 702).

"Kushner acquired 666 5th Avenue in New York" / "Lucent-Alcatel ... [has] their home at 666 5th Avenue".

"barcode 3 long/thick bars = 666"?

computer = c 3x6 o 15x6 m 13x6 p 16x6 u 21x6 t 20x6 e 5x6 r 18x6 = 666

witchcraft (pharmacia) w 23x6 i 9x6 t 20x6 c 3x6 h 8x6 c 3x6 r 18x6 a 1x6 f 6x6 t 18x6 = 666.

federal reserve = f 6x6 e 5x6 d 4x6 e 5x6 r 18x6 a 1x6 l 12x6 space -192 (computer math) r 18x6 e 5x6 s 19x6 e 5x6 r 18x6 v 22x6 e 5x6 = 858-192 = 666.

A site claims that these combinations have value 666 in biblical 'Chaldean/Babylonian' numerals : "nuclear hell", "new york", "us of america", "mark of beast", "son of sin", "S(ocial) S(ecurity) Number", "Santa Claus".

master card = 612 = 600 + 12 (6+6) = 666.
visa = vi 6 (Roman) s 6 (Greek) a 6 (Babylonian) = 666.

1998 ad/ce divided by 3 = 666. 
2000 ad/ce divided by 3 = 666.666....
6/6/(20)06.

orcon isp dialup ph number had 666 in it.
[catt/cmht ph number had 666 in it?]

666 lucky number in China, "Can mean 'everything goes smoothly'".

FFF (Freedom Fighters Front) = 666.

Aleister Crowley "the Beast 666".



Edited by Arthur-Robin - 11-Apr-2017 at 06:02
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