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Topic: How reliable is the History Channel? Posted: 04-Sep-2007 at 09:06 |
Prophet has been lost in translation. Future generations will worship his insights!
The history Channel is as good as the programmes you watch on it. Its goina have 'popish' shows and serious shows to catch as many viewers as possible. So I couldn't really judge it as good or bad either way.
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Posted: 04-Sep-2007 at 08:50 |
Originally posted by what_is_history
"Ice Road Truckers." |
You shouldn't really mock "Ice Road Truckers". Along with "Dogfights" its been one of the biggest documentary hits this year. Its enormously popular- the figures are staggering.
Originally posted by King John
I think what some of you are missing is that most of
these "documentaries"/programs are not actually made by the History
Channel they are simply bought from smaller production companies.
Simply put these programs are not made by historians but rather
amatuers and hobbyists whose schooling does not include historical
research (I know because I went to undergrad to do just that, I quickly
changed my mind as to what I want to do). On top of that there are time
constraints that require editing and cutting of certain information.
Then you have the shows like Wild West Tech or Mail Call both of which
nobody should be watching anyway. When it comes to TV I stay to PBS,
National Geographic, Discovery, and the Food Network. |
Well usually the historical basis of these films rests with three things: 1. Any expert brought in. 2. Any prior books, magazines or media that can be found. 3. Researchers- who usually aren't experts. Documentaries usually try and provide a balanced view from the sources available, modified of course by the opinions of the various people involved. Almost all historical programs are made by "amateurs". That said one has to be particuarly careful about the main force behind a program. Good examples being all that Alex Jones schlock which despite its constant repetition of historical "examples" manages to misrepresent or get wrong the vast majority. Similarly John Pilger's recent "War on Democracy" refused to back up claims, provided no context, was entirely one sided and pandered to Pilgers own preconceptions.
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Posted: 02-Sep-2007 at 01:29 |
Originally posted by bagelofdoom
I had a TA who referred to the History Channel as "the Hitler Channel" because all that they ever talked about was WWII. Some of their programming can be interesting though, just make sure that you double check their facts before using them. |
That is hilarious, I've joked with people referring to the history channel in the exact same words. As a junior or senior in high school I would get home and as sure as the tide the history channel would have a program about hitler on. Then there are those hitler marathons on weekends, 12+ hours of nothing but hitler... I've actually kept the history channel on all day once or twice during those marathons. Hours of my life I'll never get back.
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Posted: 31-Aug-2007 at 19:27 |
I rather liked the wonderful word thruth and got the thrust of it all! But seriously Prophet what are you talking about? All of a sudden we have another word homophobe and without knowing what caused your sudden outburst. Do you mean a lover of men or lover of mankind? The latter is quite in order when talking about Christianity but the former belongs on another thread. You will find those on this board do have a wide understanding, but make sure what you talk about right now has to do with the subject!
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Posted: 31-Aug-2007 at 17:54 |
Originally posted by Prophet
Are you accusing me of being some kind of homophobe? |
Apparently you don't know what the word means. Unfortunately, this does not prove you are not.
And god save us from people who believe so.
Edited by Aelfgifu - 31-Aug-2007 at 17:54
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Posted: 31-Aug-2007 at 13:38 |
Originally posted by Prophet
Are you accusing me of being some kind of homophobe? |
I really don't know if you are or not, but the fact that no one mentioned homophobes or homosexuality and you
are being defensive about it will certainly give the impression that
you are indeed a homophobe.
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Posted: 31-Aug-2007 at 13:16 |
Are you accusing me of being some kind of homophobe? Truth is
Truth and will stand on its on and has for thousands of years. Review your spell checker please. P
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Posted: 31-Aug-2007 at 01:45 |
The "truth" about Christianity is dealt with on Christian channels 24/7, or is it? but well put Aelfgifu!
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Posted: 31-Aug-2007 at 01:18 |
The thruth in this case being being your thruth, I presume? If Chrisitanity cannot survive a little scepticism, it is hardly worth believing in. Not that the HC has the thruth either, but I hardly think being uncritical about a religion can possibly lead to thruth.
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Posted: 30-Aug-2007 at 18:01 |
Anything on HC dealing with Christianity is usually couched from a critical and skeptical approach. Avoid such shows if you want the truth. P
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Posted: 30-Aug-2007 at 04:18 |
I had a TA who referred to the History Channel as "the Hitler Channel" because all that they ever talked about was WWII. Some of their programming can be interesting though, just make sure that you double check their facts before using them.
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Posted: 27-Aug-2007 at 05:12 |
UFO's? the truth is still out there, but those little green men escape every time!
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Posted: 27-Aug-2007 at 01:49 |
Its hard to find a program on anything other than ancient Egypt,
Romans, ancient Greeks, religion, WWII and the Cold War. I can't
remember how many times I was searching for a good program and all they
had on was a show about all the crack theories about Jesus' siblings or
Christianity in general.
But the absolute worst shows on that channel are about..... UFOs.
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Posted: 27-Aug-2007 at 01:15 |
Has anyone ever purchased any of their documentaries?
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Posted: 27-Aug-2007 at 00:17 |
American Chopper? Bio of Lisa Marie Presley? I mean come on! Thats why I went on to History Intrernational and Discovery Asia.
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Posted: 26-Aug-2007 at 18:18 |
Originally posted by Kevin
History International and Discovery Civilization are much better. The History Channel it's self is pretty much history in name only. |
Perhaps they have different programming in different areas but in my area both of those are awful. They run documentaries from the 70's fcol.
If you want a clue as to what any of the History or Discovery venues will be showing, just look up the list of documentaries that have been allowed to enter Public Domain. Every month there are shows that have lost their royalty protection. 2 months later they show up on one of the H or D channels.
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Posted: 26-Aug-2007 at 12:44 |
History International and Discovery Civilization are much better. The History Channel it's self is pretty much history in name only.
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Posted: 26-Aug-2007 at 00:40 |
Originally posted by elenos
One thing that gets me is they advertise a program. let's say the building of the pyramids, and right at the first scene they show you a pyramid with the sun setting behind it. The commentator says in a hushed and rererent voice "This is a pyramid." You know right there and then the rest of the program will never rise beyond coffee table book trivia.
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Posted: 26-Aug-2007 at 00:07 |
One thing that gets me is they advertise a program. let's say the building of the pyramids, and right at the first scene they show you a pyramid with the sun setting behind it. The commentator says in a hushed and rererent voice "This is a pyramid." You know right there and then the rest of the program will never rise beyond coffee table book trivia.
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Posted: 25-Aug-2007 at 11:01 |
I think what some of you are missing is that most of these "documentaries"/programs are not actually made by the History Channel they are simply bought from smaller production companies. Simply put these programs are not made by historians but rather amatuers and hobbyists whose schooling does not include historical research (I know because I went to undergrad to do just that, I quickly changed my mind as to what I want to do). On top of that there are time constraints that require editing and cutting of certain information. Then you have the shows like Wild West Tech or Mail Call both of which nobody should be watching anyway. When it comes to TV I stay to PBS, National Geographic, Discovery, and the Food Network.
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