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it's a long story. We pretty much agreed on lion vs tiger so moved on to werewolf vs vampire and then to liger taking on all comers. Now a magnificent beast is the liger except it doesn't have much in the way of a sex life and is lousy at climbing trees!
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But, of course the "cowardly Lion" could whip a Tiger with one paw held behind his back! Laugh! "Just what does the mouse have that the lion does not have? Courage!" LOL
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I have never lost faith in myself and i am The Lion!Wink
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In a one to one fight, my money goes on the Tiger. But if these awesome predators met in the wild, my money switches to the Lion(s). As already mentioned, Tigers tend to be solitary, whereas, Lions tend to live in prides. Even male lions who have not yet aquired their own pride, tend to form bachelor prides/packs, usually consisting of brothers. Two or three brothers have more chance of ousting a resident male from a pride than a single male has and as they carry the same genes, they share the lionesses amongst themselves. It's a good survival strategy and would give the lions the advantage over tigers in the wild, imo.  
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Fantastic :) Let's see if we can get the rest of the Admirals's Club to join us
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Well, it'll be nice to see more of our friends joining us here, but to be honest, I'm here for a bit of peace and quiet, more than anything else. LOL 

The 'other' place has got a bit too buzy for my liking. Too many trolls getting in the way of interesting discussions. Quantity destroying quality if you get my drift.

I know that Red Clay does a good job of running a board and thought I'd spend more time here. Smile


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In a one to one fight, my money goes on the Tiger. But if these awesome predators met in the wild, my money switches to the Lion(s). As already mentioned, Tigers tend to be solitary, whereas, Lions tend to live in prides. Even male lions who have not yet aquired their own pride, tend to form bachelor prides/packs, usually consisting of brothers. Two or three brothers have more chance of ousting a resident male from a pride than a single male has and as they carry the same genes, they share the lionesses amongst themselves. It's a good survival strategy and would give the lions the advantage over tigers in the wild, imo.  

Yes, I totally agree with you here. One on one the tiger has the advantage, however if we add in the natural tendencies of the lions and tigers, the extra numbers I feel would shift the advantage towards the lions.  
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1. Tiger an lion Expert Dave hoover, said lions majority always win against tigers.
2.Indian Zooligist an big cat Expert Jam sahib, say’s lions always win.
3. Animal Trainer and Expert Louis Roth, favors the lion over the
tiger in a fight.
4. Animal Expert Alfred court, thinks the lion wins over the tiger in a fight.
5.Animal Trainer John Helliot, favors the lion over the tiger in a fight.
6.Animal Expert Dave Salmoni, says he’d give the edge to a lion in a
fight with a tiger.
7.Animal Tamer Clyde Beatty, said lions will win more fights with tigers.
8.Animal enthusiast and poet Oliver Goldsmith, ranked the lion over the tiger.
9.Animal Expert an Tamer Courtney cooper, said lions usually win more
in tiger fights.
10.Poet an painter Geroge Buffon, picked lions over tigers in a fight.
11. Big cat trainer Jim Chipperfeild support’s the lion in a fight with a tiger.
12.Big cat trainer Edward. jewitt wheeler, say’s the lion is superior to the tiger.
13.Big cat tamer, Isac kaufman funk, agree;s lions are superior to tiger’s.
14.Lion an tiger trainer, Willam seaver wood’s, say’s a lion would beat a tiger.
15.Tiger an lion tamer Arther stimson Draper, says lion’s uaslly win against tiger’s.
16.Brother of Isac kaufman funk, wilfred john funk agree’s lions are superior.
17.Marco peter’s lion and tiger trainer say’s male lions usally win in fights
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab95/boldchamp1/boldchamp/Lionusuallywhipsatiger.jpg
18.Big cat expert Alex Kerr goes with a lion in a fight with a tiger.
19.Indian zooligist Kalish shankala say’s lion’s beat tiger’s due to mane’s.
20. Mr F.C owner of bowstock had a lion kill a tiger before his act started.
21. Lee Yong Phil zoo keeper say’s lion’s dominate tiger’s.
22. Frank C. Mendel, professor of pathology, say’s male lions mostly wins in fights with any tiger.
23. Chapter 4 Sajamu, religous dance’s rein acting of lion’s that killed an ate tiger’s.
24. Circus performer an big cat owner Geroge conklin say’s in his book the male lion has the advantage of having a mane.
25. Lion an tiger tamer Bert nelson favor’s the lion in a fight with a tiger.
26. John Seisensticker lion an tiger trainer gave his opinion’s on lion’s
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/brentonlion/books_003-25.png

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Here’s a few documented account’s, of lion’s killing tiger’s 1 on 1.
Except for number 11, which is pretty Ironic, that most lion hater’s,
say a tiger can kill a whole pride, but in that video just two, 1.5
year old lion’s, mauled a adult tiger.
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1.Genius books/Animal facts, Lion named Nero killed Tim the tiger in
an Australian zoo – Documentary.
2.1936 Agartala zoo in bengal, a lion kills a tiger. (Local news report)
3.1935 Sikestonians saw a lion kill a tiger in a local town circus
act.(Documentary)
4. 2 tigers died, In the the big cage tiger from a lion-(Video)
5.1955 oct, 6 Naturual history society, Page 465-468, 3 separate
accounts lion won all 3.(Documentary)
6.1960 Korea pit fights Male lions won majority of all fights.(Hidden
news Report)
7.1981 Martin. L Albert witnessed a lion kill a tiger.(Documentary)
8.1954 Lion kills tiger with one blow in Boltimore zoo.(Documentary)
9.1935 In the town Bedford, Masachusetts a zoo lost a tiger to a
lion.(Local news)
10.Gir foreset 3 tigers vs 3 lions, all lions won. (Video) -Youtube-
11.2011 Korea two teen lions killed a adult Bengal tiger in an
enclosure.(Video)- Youtube-
12 King Edward the lion kill’s Dan the tiger. (Book)
13.Calcutta zooligical garden’s a lioness kills a tiger(New’s article)
14.Gambier bulton, brittish mengerine saw a lioness kill a tiger.(New’s article)
15.1925 Rudolf kludsky had several lions had killed his tiger’s.
16. M. Herbert’s mengerine lion kills royal bengal tiger. (New’s article)
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab95/boldchamp1/boldchamp/Lionkillstiger-1.jpg
17.1970 pittsburgh Press lion kill’s tiger in india.(Video)
18. Mr F.c owner of bowstock had a lion kill a tiger before his act.(New’s article)
19.1949 in fitchburg a lion kill’s Roger the tiger in circus act.(New’s article)
20 1851, In the “Landshuter Zeitung” a lion killed a tiger.(German new’s atricle)
21.1985 Alan gold’s circus lion kill’s tiger
22. Lion kills tiger: in a circus (February 1951. Detroit).
23. Lion kills tiger: Happened in a zoo (September 1951. Madras Zoological Gardens).
24 dave hoover 2 tiger’s killed by lion’s
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab95/boldchamp1/boldchamp/Hooverlionsvstigers2.jpg
25. Beatty cole lion’s kill 2 tiger’s
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab95/boldchamp1/boldchamp/tamerdaveHoover.jpg
26.Clyde beatty’s circus act Ceasar the lion kill’s bobby the tiger
27. Bavenna, OH, Lioness kills tigress
28. Sir thomas lawrence page 281 lion kills bear an tiger in 1 fight
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/brentonlion/books_003-25.png
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Here’s a few documented artifact’s an sculpture’s that are in
museum’s, portraying the lion winning against the tiger, why? Because
apperntly they would have to have seen the incident, to etch it or
sculpture it an these are from different people from Rome, to India,
to Britain, to China all portraying the same thing the lion having the
winning.
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1. http://www.grosvenorprints.com/jpegs/1148.jpg
2. http://www.grosvenorprints.com/jpegs/6445.jpg
3. http://lh4.ggpht.com/_LlfXWxcpJyU/S90EuAIm5pI/AAAAAAAAelY/-5Dy65n0ChI/Fullscreen%20capture%2002052010%20054713.bmp_thumb%5B3%5D.jpg
4. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-b-1ewj--8-U/TcldVkFC2RI/AAAAAAAACrk/4pK2eeykqrE/s1600/The+British+Lion%25E2%2580%2599s+Vengeance+on+the+Bengal+Tiger.jpg

5. http://www.monstermedals.com/ekmps/shops/monstermedals/images/seringapatam-medal-1799-bronze-426-p.jpg

6. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2162/2327160149_b2c00365d3.jpg
7. http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad19/JinenFordragon/4020413334_f726b193eb_z.jpg
8. http://images.oneofakindantiques.com/4649_oriental_bronze_sculpture_ lion_lioness_7.jpg   
9. http://c48743.r43.cf3.rackcdn.com/Images/2009_04/08/0003/147355/147355_c40ec03c-3661-4b2e-b4f7-5314cb28b9b4_-1_273.Jpeg
10. http://www.signature-antiquite.com/content/product_2823291b.jpg
11. http://images.metmuseum.org/CRDImages/dp/web-highlight/DP805844.jpg
12. http://www.huma3.com/repository/reviews/afterdelacroix.jpg
13. http://www.raden-saleh.org/enlionsandtigerfighting.jpg
14. http://ylovebigcats.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/lion_tiger.jpg
15. http://www.artvalue.com/photos/auction/0/44/44618/slevogt-max-1868-1932-germany-kampf-zwischen-lowe-und-tiger-2088424.jpg
16.http://www.kunstkopie.de/kunst/ferdinand_victor_eugene_delacr/kampf_loewe_tiger_hi.jpg
17. http://www.royalathena.com/media/Under2500/Roman/GMS021.jpg
18. http://www.dargate.com/cat/268/86.jpg
19. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KfXm6QzlOl4/SX-JaFClajI/AAAAAAAAApQ/m_sqELU4ZGk/s1600-h/lion+statue+cope.jpg

20.http://www.empyraeum-antiquaria.de/ebay/graf/2609_11/2609_5_1.jpg
21. http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2009/05/15/news/photos_galleries/G3061_photo06.jpg
22. http://www.eliteauction.com/catalogues/060411/images/296_1.jpg
23. http://www.simmonsgallery.co.uk/2001site/medals/MB58-Auction-Historical-medals/thumbnails/MB58-135Serial%20Letter%20t.jpg
24. http://www.historytoday.com/sites/default/files/rb_fight.jpg
25.http://www.wildabouttheworld.com/gallery/data//519/medium/LM00831lion-tiger.jpg
26. http://www.tias.com/stores/globe/thumbs/02287a.jpg
27. http://www.reusableart.com/d/4272-2/lion-images-02.jpg
28. http://www.skinnerinc.com/full/927/872927.jpg

29. file:///Users/user/Desktop/Lion%20art%20vs%20tiger/Contending-Group-After-Na%202.jpg
30. file:///Users/user/Desktop/Lion%20art%20vs%20tiger/d0f7f24c0398.jpg
31.
file:///Users/user/Desktop/Lion%20art%20vs%20tiger/lion_and_tiger_by_brazilian.jpg
32. http://img.antiquesreporter.com.au/110626BNSY/388.jpg   
33. http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/paintings/lions-and-tigers-fighting-over-a-stag-68354
34 http://movieart.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/full-darkestafrica-1sh.jpg
35. http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/brentonlion/books_003-63.png
36. http://storage.canalblog.com/22/68/119589/21241443.jpg
37. http://img.carters.com.au/134770-tn.jpg
38. http://rsjohnsonfineart.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Fragonard-to-Feininger-Exhibition-Theodore-Gericault-Combat-of-a-Lion-and-a-Tiger-213x213.jpg
39. http://www.antiquated.co.uk/productimages/2511200674623lion1_th.jpg
40.http://www.christies.com/lotfinderimages/d19958/d1995873r.jpg
41. http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61pwwRAdwJL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
42. http://storage.canalblog.com/79/17/119589/69752062_p.jpg
43. http://liveimages.quicksales.com.au/quicksales/general/classified/gc4686207972357702311.jpg?width=300&height=225&aspect=fitwithin&padcolor=ffffff
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TIGER”S ROAR…
http://inchinapinch.com/hab_pgs/terres/coniferous/images/tiger_roar.mp3
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LION’S ROAR…
http://www.tunghai74.org/forums/movie/MGM-Lion-Roar.mp3
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Cultrual knowledge
- Seyoung lion defeating tiger
http://www.suyeongminsok.or.kr/eng/menu01_02.php
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Lion fighting a nian who the tiger couldent.
http://www.sevenstarmantis.co.uk/7.html
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Indian folklore has the lion as the ultimate test not tigers.
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http://www.wild-india.com/IndianAnimals/indian-lion.html
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Lion god’s diplicted by men.
http://home.worldonline.nl/~rlion/lkgode.htm

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http://www.ladyoftheflame.co.uk/Deities.htm
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Lion kill’s bear’s
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http://shaggygod.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=felidaeannex&action=display&thread=798&page=3
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1.1902 lion named roosevlet killed peary the polar bear.
2.John heliot’s circus lion named brutus kills polar bear.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/ScottBanks/lionkillspolarbear.jpg
3. lion kills polar bear 1955 By Alfred Court.Pages 131-132,
4. lion kills polar bear Louis Roth, forty years with jungle killers, page 204-205.
5.1893 Pezon in limoges, Leo the lion kills polar bear
6.Boltimore the lion kills russian grizzley
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/265/sdffti0.jpg/
7. Lion stale mate’s enormous grizzley bear
THE OAKLAND TRIBUNE APRIL 1, 1895 "A DRAW" PARNELL FIGHTS A BIG BEAR.
THE LOS ANGELES TIMES APRIL 2, 1895 "BRUIN THROWS LEO
8. Lion kills bruin the grizzly bear
http://www.pictures-of-cats.org/images/lion-vs-bear.gif
9. John Seisensticker lion an tiger trainer gave his opinion’s on lion’s
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/brentonlion/books_003-25.png
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{ANATOMY lion’s Mane}
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Source 1.
http://members.aol.com/bhilton665/tanzania.../lion_D1602.jpg
Now both males attack, one grappling with her head as the other bites her stomach. She twists away in pain from the stomach bite.
Note the protection offered by the mane on the lion on the left as the female's claws and blows are cushioned by the thick matted fur.
Source 2.
http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN0521...CQQ3Aym9Ef6w2M4
Indeed there are good scientific data that male lions with long manes are more likely to survive and have fewer injuries.
The Fetal Matrix: Evolution, Development and Disease
By Peter D. Gluckman, Mark Hanson

Source 3.
This tiger was captured in India and went against a lion after being in captivity for only few days. Don't tell me that these few days changed the tiger's behavior in which it could not deliver a fatal neck bite.
It was the Tiger's fight and he knew it. He sprang at the staggering Lion, took a fearful chop on the nose without flinching and set his teeth into the African's hairy throat. They wrestled desperately, and the Lion's heavy mane saved him from suffocation. Great mouthfuls of long coarse hair catching in the Tiger's teeth not only preventing him from getting a death grip, but so interfered with his with his respiration that he had to release the hold, whereupon the Lion swatted him with a tremendous uppercut and sent him tumbling twenty feet away.

Source 4.
http://books.google.com/books?vid=OCLC0808...male+lions+mane
The lion's mane, not possessed by the female, is evidently such a weapon of defense; it is a excellent means of protection against the bites which the male lions try to inflict on each other's necks when fighting for the females; consequently those males with the strongest manes have the greatest advantage in the sexual struggle.

The History of Creation, Or, The Development of the Earth and Its Inhabitants by the Action of naterual causes.
By L. Dora Schmitz, Sir E Ray Lankester
Source 5.
“Down sprang Caesar, determined to seize the offensive, but before he could do so, Bobby had battled his way through Caesar's paws, grabbed his mane so stubbornly that he couldn't move. For the next couple of minutes each struggled and strained for an advantage, but Bobby's hold was so tenacious that they only succeeded in twisting a little. With the cameras continuing to grind and getting nothing but a little harmless tug of war… Energy spent, the exhausted Bobby tried to roll away from Caesar, but Caesar's hold now was as firm as Bobby's which had been on his mane. Seeing this turn in affairs, I dashed into the cage. Already Caesar's jaws had crunched Bobby's neck and when I got there Caesar was shaking Bobby's limp, bloody head and throat from side to side. Bobby's eyes were turning starey. He was dead and it was only two minutes since I had dashed the ammonia into his face. I was keenly sorry that I had done it, but in thinking it over I became convinced that my part had been negligible. The lion is frequently the superior; he doubtless would have been the winner in this case no matter what I had done.”
Source 6.
If so, it is conceivable that a single male lion attacked by a pack of hyenas could reduce injury with the help of its mane. Manes protect males in interaspecific in other species. It may additionally confer advantages by limiting wounding in the neck region.
~Antipredator Defenses in Birds and Mammals
By Timothy M. Caro

Source 7.
The lion's mane, not possessed by the female, is evidently such a weapon of defense; it is a excellent means of protection against the bites which the male lions try to inflict on each other's necks when fighting for the females; consequently those males with the strongest manes have the greatest advantedge in the sexual struggle.
The History of Creation, Or, The Development of the Earth and Its Inhabitants by the Action of naterual causes.
By L. Dora Schmitz, Sir E Ray Lankester

Source 8.
http://www.krugerpark.co.za/faq-on-lion.html
The mane is also a means of protection to the face and neck during fights between male lions.

Source 9.
It causes him to look bigger without increasing his weight or need for food. It also protects him from bites and scratches should he have to fight another male.
http://www.honoluluzoo.org/lion.htm

Source 10.
The mane protects the lion from bites to the throat or the neck.
http://www.destinybigcats.com/cats/zen.htm

Source 11.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/wildfacts/factfiles/14.shtml
The mane protects the lion during fights with other males.
Source 12.
http://www.sandiegozoo.org/animalbytes/t-lion.html
The lion’s thick mane protects his neck against raking claws during fights with other males for membership in the pride.
Source 14.
(e.g lion's mane protects him from teeth and claws in a fight).
http://www.kidcyber.com.au/topics/animalclassif.htm
Source 15.
Male lions are the only cats with manes. This collar of long, thick hair covers the head, except the face, and the neck down to the shoulders and chest. The mane makes the male look even bigger and stronger than he is. It also protects him during fights. The long, thick hair softens the blows of his foes.
Schaller, George B. "Lion." World Book Encyclopedia. 2002 ed. The best naturalist of the 20th century said that.
Source 16.
On the open savannah, a lion's mane advertises his maleness from a great distance. To enhance his mane, a lion will do the "lion strut": tip-toeing on front legs, erect body and tail. The mane also protects against claws and teeth in male combat.
http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Afric...serve-BR-1.html

Source 17.
A male lion's mane is designed to protect the animal from attacks from other lions. It apparently also works with hand grenades as well. Marjan's neck and chest were spared serious injury, but his face was badly mutilated by the blast.
http://www.lionlmb.org/lion/marjan.html

Source 18.
The most distinctive feature of the male lion is its mane, a collar of long, thick fur. An adolescent male's mane will begin to grow at 18 months, after which it will continue to grow and darken until the age of five. A visual indicator of gender and power, the mane also serves to protect the lion's neck from other lions.
http://www.pbs.org/edens/etosha/lion.htm
Source 19.
The mane helps protect the lion’s neck during fighting and make him appear larger to competitors
http://www.alltooflat.com/pranks/lion/factsheet.html
Source 20.
Their mane serves a number of purposes: a) it identifies him as a mature male to other lions, even at a distance b) it gives an appearance of increased size with little weight cost c) the condition of the mane conveys the level of health and vigour to female lions d) it can help protect the head and neck area in fights with other lions.
http://www.wildcatconservation.org/faq.shtml
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Source 21.
Samantha Stephens, says the lions mane might not make a big difference, but it might be that crucial amount of difference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK9etg51Do8
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Source 22.
“When one animal attacks another, he seems to know by instinct. He strikes for the neck for a quick kill. Nature seems to have provided the lion with a defensive covering -- a mane to protect the neck area.”
~The Lion in Fact and in Fiction
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Source 23.
“The mane is strictly a male attribute and gives lion’s their majestic aura… It acts almost like a fencing mask, absorbing paw swipes aimed at the head and necks during fights between rivals. When mane’s grow to big for both rival’s, the fight can last up to hour’s due to the mane protecting the main arterie’s, little to nothing can be done to male’s who have mane’s that grown larger than others for it’s main reason is for combat .”
~The Art of Being a Lion
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Source 24.
The mane plays an important role in the lion’s life. While a long mane that blows easily in the wind may be difficult to hide when hunting an alert zebra, it is a distinct advantage in defense… That same mane gives his neck a good bit of protection in case the intruder does not turn away and chooses to challenge the resident lion for his position.
~The Last Big Cats An Untamed Spirit
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Male lions are larger than females and possess a voluminous mane which contrast with the sleek pelage on other parts of the body… The distinctive colors and sizes of manes may also help animals to identify individuals. An important secondary function of the mane is one of protection during fights. The dense mat of hair absorbs blows and harmlessly tangles claws in a part of the body towards which most social contact is directed; bites too, may leave an opponent with a mouth full of hair rather than skin.
~The Serengeti Lion A Study of Predator-Prey Relations Wildlife Behavior and Ecology series.
Source 26.
There is no direct evidence, but if we examine the probabilities in the case of a confrontation between the two some inferences can be drawn. In a fight would de unable to get close to the vital joint of a lion’s neck because of his thick mane, but the tiger is vulnerable to the lion. The film showed that the tiger was at an immediate disadvantage. Tigers use a throat grip as their primary means of killing and the lion's thick protective mane prevented the tiger gaining a hold on the throat joint. On the other hand, the tiger had no special protection, so was vulnerable to attack. In this fight, the tiger was killed. In any inter-species confrontation lions would also have the advantage of the who pride. But in my opinion a tiger is no match even for a single lion of equal strength. In any inter-species confrontation lions would also have the advantage of support from members of the whole pride. But in my opinion a tiger is no match even for a single lion of equal strength.
Tiger! The Story of the Indian Tiger, by Kailash Sankhala.
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Now, as to a lion and tiger, I should say that the tiger is the more powerful of the two. At the same time, it is more cowardly, has more of the slinking nature of the cat, and is more treacherous. I believe I’m fully qualified to state, as I’ve had them both on me. I bear the teeth marks of a lion that shut his jaws tight on my legs. But it isn’t the teeth of the big cats trainers fear so much. It is the claws, being hooked, tear out the flesh and sinew as they are withdrawn. When a lion goes at a trainer he starts right towards him, with no subterfuge, mouth open and tail as stiff as a poker. A tiger cringes and crawls until he makes his spring. In a fair fight it would be hard to guess which animal would come off victor, and much would depend, I think on the one that got the first good hold. The lion also is protected around the neck by the heavy mane, which is an advantage.
~George Conklln, “Adventures With a Circus”
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Tiger weight’s
http://www.tigers.ru/articles/tab_eng.html#tab1
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http://www.edu.pe.ca/southernkings/tiger.htm
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http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/schamah/SiberianCloseto400.jpg
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http://www.indianmirror.com/wildlife/animals/tiger.html#
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http://www.indianmirror.com/wildlife/animals/tiger.html#
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http://bigcatrescue.org/2011/tiger-facts
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http://english.savechinastigers.org/node/31
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http://www.redorbit.com/education/reference_library/science_1/mammalia/2578132/bengal_tiger/
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lion's and tigers average the same weight's an tiger's has reached the 800 pound range's but so has lion's here...
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- 900 pound lion
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1755&dat=19630112&id=l9YeAAAAIBAJ&sjid=n2UEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4456,2398849
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800 pound lion named ponto fight’s off 2 tiger’s
http://newspaperarchive.com/oakland-tribune/1959-03-27/

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826 pound lion named simba
http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af291/KingOfEurope/45yedsdy.jpg?t=1306200659
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800 pound lion named mubasa
http://www.kansastravel.org/britspaughzoo.htm

http://www.thirdage.com/humor/800-pound-lion-receives-root-canal-video
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826 pound lion
http://junglephotos.com/africa/afanimals/mammals/lionnathist.shtml
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800 pound lion attack’s tarzan
http://www.tzproductions.com/index.php/history
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2… 800 pound lion’s 1 named Prince an 1 named clarence
http://mfinley.com/tumor/bt-bwana-mike.htm
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http://animals.timduru.org/dirlist/lions/TigerNLion-detrock1.jpg
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http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/815/a17dr.jpg/
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http://th04.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2011/029/b/c/circus__lion_and_tiger_by_never_over_strange-d38brsq.jpg
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http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/8/84191/1834942-lion_and_tiger_super.jpg
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http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/248/6c17022cf4ad87d490f0820.jpg/
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http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/IJ3N4Wpseeo/hqdefault.jpg
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http://prehistoric-fauna.com/img/orig/cats_size.jpg
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http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab235/misty242010/fc686a63a122dc760c33fa1a.jpg
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2 male’s spaid lion with no mane.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2574/4122394019_8e1ccbd81f.jpg
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http://utterlycute.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Lion-Bear-Tiger-610x441.jpg
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http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/lion-tiger-bear-living-together-11.jpg
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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EgYN6vENFl0/SdzMge19lII/AAAAAAAAC08/1XAJ9HBqw_c/s400/Circus_Lions%26TigersStanding.jpg
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I'll revamp an make my list more bullet proof, by correcting an adding to list of emperial god amoung's the animal's the lion, here...
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{Expert’s, Trainer’s, Tamer’s, Owner’s, Zoologist’s Opinion’s on Lion vs tiger’s}
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1. Tiger an lion Expert Dave hoover, said lions are the better fighter’s.
http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/gif/2c726fd5c00746832d1bff2d2a483ae1a1c6b6b8_r.jpg
2.Indian Zooligist Jam sahib exploit’s bias cat enthusiasist “Karish singe” an witnesses 4 ocasian’s lion’s beat tiger’s an give’s his opinon on lion’s.
http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad19/JinenFordragon/pagetwoju9.jpg
3. Animal Trainer and Expert Louis Roth, favors the lion over the
tiger in a fight. In his book
http://www.worthpoint.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Louis-Roth.jpg
4. Animal Expert Alfred court, thinks the lion wins over the tiger in a fight[Book]
http://www.worthpoint.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Life-With-Big-Cats.jpg
5.Animal Trainer John Helliot, favors the lion over the tiger in a fight he’s the guy on the right hand side of clyde beatty who also had a lion kill a polar bear article.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2381/2071380105_d4b400547f.jpg
6.Animal Expert Dave Salmoni, says he’d give the edge to a lion in a
fight with a tiger.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A64glNYb-NM
7.Animal Tamer Clyde Beatty, said lions will win 9/10 against tigers.
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/brentonlion/books-83.jpg
8.Animal enthusiast and poet Oliver Goldsmith, ranked the lion over the tiger.
http://www.scharlau.co.uk/scharlau.co.uk/prints/images/lions4701.jpg
http://books.google.com/books?id=0axEAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA395&lpg=PA395&dq=oliver+goldsmith+lions'&source=bl&ots=g1TAll-5xC&sig=DGi-ZspT444D1ZdbX5jYWUItBO4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=oEu7T_L7OaiviALuyoXVDQ&ved=0CBUQ6AEwAA
9.Animal Expert an Tamer Courtney cooper, said lions usually win more
in tiger fights. In her book she state’s
LIONS"N"TIGERS"N"EVERYTHING 1924 By Courtney Riley Cooper.
Page 32, I like the tiger cat more than I like the lion cat.
Page 68, lions are "King Of Beasts"
Page 70, lion kills a tiger in a very brutal fight.
Page 78, Cooper says lion is "King Of Beasts" and a good father.
Pages 84-85, FEMALE tiger kills heavier MALE tiger defending her cubs.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-867ud6Wa9NQ/TpV7MZsSYLI/AAAAAAAAnHY/NHhpK6OBdVw/s1600/The%2Bbook%2Bdetails%2Bthe%2Blife%2Bof%2Ba%2Btypical%2Bzookeeper%2Band%2Bhis%2Banimals.jpg
10.Poet an painter an animal enthusiast Geroge Buffon, picked lions over tigers in a fight.
http://www.artprints.com/images/OWP/large/owp9316c.jpg
http://diogenesii.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/404px-buffon_1707-1788.jpg
11. Big cat trainer Jim Chipperfeild support’s the lion in a fight with a tiger.
{Lion vs tiger Book}
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51O-3K-LtuL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/lionandtigerlionsuperiorfightingabi.jpg
12.Big cat trainer Edward. jewitt wheeler, say’s the lion is superior to the tiger. {Lion vs tiger Book}
http://i43.tower.com/images/mm100619524/lion-vs-tiger-isabel-thomas-hardcover-cover-art.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/lionandtigerlionsuperiorfightingabi.jpg
13.Big cat tamer, Isac kaufman funk, agree;s lions are superior to tiger’s.
{Lion vs tiger Book}
http://i43.tower.com/images/mm100619524/lion-vs-tiger-isabel-thomas-hardcover-cover-art.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/lionandtigerlionsuperiorfightingabi.jpg
14.Lion an tiger trainer, Willam seaver wood’s, say’s a lion would beat a tiger.
{Lion vs tiger Book}
http://i43.tower.com/images/mm100619524/lion-vs-tiger-isabel-thomas-hardcover-cover-art.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/lionandtigerlionsuperiorfightingabi.jpg
15.Tiger an lion tamer Arther stimson Draper, says lion’s uaslly win against tiger’s.
{Lion vs tiger Book}
http://i43.tower.com/images/mm100619524/lion-vs-tiger-isabel-thomas-hardcover-cover-art.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/lionandtigerlionsuperiorfightingabi.jpg
16.Brother of Isac kaufman funk, wilfred john funk agree’s lions are superior.
{Lion vs tiger Book}
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51O-3K-LtuL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/lionandtigerlionsuperiorfightingabi.jpg
17.Marco peter’s lion and tiger trainer say’s male tigers are afraid of male lion’s.
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab95/boldchamp1/boldchamp/Lionusuallywhipsatiger.jpg
18.Big cat expert Alex Kerr goes with a lion in a fight with a tiger.
19.Indian zooligist Kalish shankala say’s lion’s beat tiger’s due to mane’s.
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/brentonlion/boldchamp/boldchamppics031-1.jpg
20. Sir Frank . owner of bowstock say’s lion’s are more dangerous than tiger’s.
http://www.nfa.dept.shef.ac.uk/jungle/index1a1.html
21. Lee Yong Phil zoo keeper say’s lion’s dominate tiger’s.
http://animal-tigers.blogspot.com/2011/02/dominated-by-black-tigers-in-everland.html
22. Frank C. Mendel, professor of pathology, say’s male lions mostly wins in fights with other cat’s
http://medicine.buffalo.edu/content/medicine/faculty/profile.html?ubit=fcmendel
23. Chapter 4 Sajamu, religous dance’s rein acting of lion’s that killed an ate tiger’s.
http://www.mask.kr/coding/english/sub08.asp
24. Circus performer an big cat owner Geroge conklin say’s in his book the male lion has the advantages over other cat’s
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/510U7xDeJ3L._SL500_AA300_.jpg
25. Beatty cole state’s that lion’s do kill tiger’s
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab95/boldchamp1/boldchamp/tamerdaveHoover.jpg
26.Caroll soo holl apperntly know’s lion’s are capable of killing male tiger’s
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab95/boldchamp1/boldchamp/Atigerissupposedtowinafightwithalion.jpg
27. Burt Nelson say’s lions usally whips the tiger’s
http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad19/JinenFordragon/books-84.jpg
28. Entire team of Tiger territory a site that has 200 page’s of studying information dedicated to the tiger, has a confirmation that lion’s are superior to tiger’s in fighting…
http://www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/conflict7.html
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29.1842 animal new’s article having a trainer of all animal’s…saying lion’s were the most dominate animal and feared more above tiger’s.
http://www.cqout.com/item.asp?id=12636137
30. The mengerine…Lions will not stay in the same cage with tigers. We tried this once, putting a lioness in with a Bengal tiger. There was a fierce fight and the lioness nearly killed the Bengal."Chapter V11
http://www.circushistory.org/History/OnRoad2.htm
31. Caviar and Cabbage [Book] Melvin B. Tolson .
Tolson was the professor, poet and writer portrayed by Denzel Washington in
The Great Debaters , which is based on a true story from 1935 America.
http://www.marcnorton.us/93588/102643.html
32. Sir Samuel w. baker has carefully compared the strength and other qualitie’s of the lion an tiger an he decide’s in favor of the lion.
http://www.oldandsold.com/articles35/animals-2.shtml
http://books.google.com/books?id=5XFRAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA762&lpg=PA762&dq=sir+samuel+baker+lions+and+tigers+book&source=bl&ots=vytNsXChw7&sig=pbFGbyGmNsYlG4GzpAyy_us2C6o&hl=en&sa=X&ei=5JHBT_XeN4aUiQLH4oHjBw&ved=0CBwQ6AEwAw
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http://www.hotfreebooks.com/book/Wild-Beasts-and-their-Ways-Sir-Samuel-W-Baker--6.html
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Along with adding more link's to the list which I'll find an complete this list of pure superiorty, here...
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{Recorded Historical Document’s of Lion’s Killing Tiger account’s}
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1.Genius books/Animal facts, Lion named Nero killed Tim the tiger in
an Australian zoo – Documentary.
2.1936 Agartala zoo in bengal, a lion kills a tiger. (Local news report)
3.1935 Sikestonians saw a lion kill a tiger in a local town circus
act.(Documentary)
http://newspaperarchive.com/danville-bee/1935-09-16/
4. 2 tigers died, In the the big cage tiger from a lion-(Video)
http://wildanimalelite.yuku.com/topic/307
which clyde beatty is talking about lion’s in general… when they are intermidiate family they will gang up on tiger’s other than that, lion’s will not help another lion,and are exellent free for all fighter’s an all clyde beatty’s fight’s for the movie was one on one.
5.1955 oct, 6 Naturual history society, Page 465-468, 3 separate
accounts lion won all 3.(Documentary)
6.1960 Korea pit fights Male lions won majority of all fights stated by zoo keeper lee young phil.(Hidden news Report)
http://animal-tigers.blogspot.com/2011/02/dominated-by-black-tigers-in-everland.html
lee young phil statement said, there were a few tiger and lion fight’s staged an recorded, and only one that the female tigris fought the lioness was aired… with harsh wording’s of the korean narrirator saying, the lion was no match for there symbol of power, yet it was a 50/50 fight having the tiger the one bleeding to death. Also saying they were edited an spliced in favor of the tiger, which if there were more than a few male fight’s recorded, why werent they ever shown. It is highly concluded the male lion’s won all, an the video’s were destroyed due to cultrual idlelization’s of the korean’s. here’s the other alibi to that same fight here…
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/HA28Dg01.html
7.1981 Martin. L Albert witnessed a lion kill a tiger.(Documentary)
8.1954 Lion kills tiger with one blow in Boltimore zoo.(Documentary)
9.1935 In the town Bedford, Masachusetts a zoo lost a tiger to a
lion.(Local news)
10.Gir foreset 3 tigers vs 3 lions, all lions won. (Video) -Youtube-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBdpiIxMnMM   
11.2011 Korea two teen lions killed a adult Bengal tiger in an
enclosure.(Video)- Youtube-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNlRBGq3rmk
12 King Edward the lion kill’s Dan the male tiger. (Book)
animalcreativity.webs.com/12664042-Lion-and-Tiger-Interactions.pdf
13.Calcutta zooligical garden’s a lioness kills a tiger(New’s article)
14.Gambier bulton, brittish mengerine saw a lioness kill a tiger.(New’s article)
15.1925 Rudolf kludsky had said several lions had killed his tiger’s.
16. M. Herbert’s mengerine lion kills male royal bengal tiger. (New’s article)
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab95/boldchamp1/boldchamp/Lionkillstiger-1.jpg
17.1970 pittsburgh Press lion kill’s tiger in india.(Video)
18. Mr F.c owner of bowstock had a lion kill a tiger before his act.(New’s article)
19.1949 in fitchburg a lion kill’s Roger the male tiger in circus act.(New’s article)
20 1851, In the “Landshuter Zeitung” a lion killed a tiger.(German new’s atricle)
http://animalsversesanimals.yuku.com/topic/2388/Velar-Male-Lion-vs-Royal-Bengal-Tiger-valauble-rare-account-
21.1985 Alan gold’s circus lion kill’s tiger
22. Lion kills tiger: in a circus (February 1951. Detroit).
23. Lioness kills tiger: Happened in a zoo (September 1951. Madras Zoological Gardens).
http://animalsversesanimals.yuku.com/sreply/8061/t/Some-new-accounts-just-for-fun-.html
24 dave hoover 2 tiger’s killed by lion’s
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab95/boldchamp1/boldchamp/Hooverlionsvstigers2.jpg
25. Beatty cole lion’s kill 2 tiger’s
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab95/boldchamp1/boldchamp/tamerdaveHoover.jpg
26.Clyde beatty’s circus act Ceasar the lion kill’s bobby the male tiger
27. Bavenna, OH, Lioness kills tigress
28. 2008 Cheongi the lion kills 50 pound bigger siberian tigress name Hobi jeonju zoo.This is hobi the tiger before the incident sparing with a friendly lion…
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/166/748tb0.jpg/
An this is Hobi after the incident with cheongi the not so friendly lion…
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/12/117_36355.html
29. 2006 lion mate’s kill huge white tigress in leberic and czech zoo. There was only one bite mark on Isabella’s throat an no other wound’s concluding even though 2 lion’s occupied the same encloser with isbella the tiger, only one lion attacked isabella.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/offbeat/2009-11-19-Czech-Republic_N.htm
30. Lion kills Puna the male tiger

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/brentonlion/Image-81.jpg
31. A lion kills a tiger in a palace of an indian prince in front of thosuand’s
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It’s on this site called tiger territory, on lairweb .com here…
http://www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/
32, TIGER; THE STORY OF THE INDIAN TIGER 1977 By Kailash Sankhala. Saw four accasion’s lion’s defeated tigers in the wild.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51-n1cZ9FyL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
His book was taken from his oringinal text here…
http://bks4.books.google.de/books?id=3_baAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&img=1&zoom=1&edge=curl&source=gbs_api
33. jam sahib has wittnessed 3 fights having all lion defeat tiger’s in his book here…
http://shared.knights.co.uk/albums/KSAMar12/images/lot0706.jpg
also in his summarry when he exploited keshari singh he point’s them out again here…
http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad19/JinenFordragon/pagetwoju9.jpg
34. 1834 diary of a lterature lion defeat’s tiger.
35. A lion kills a bear and tiger in 1 fight.
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/brentonlion/books_003-25.png
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{Here’s a few documented Historical Artifact’s an Sculpture’s that are mostly in}
museum’s, portraying the lion winning against the tiger, an each has a back story if you care to look them up and apperntly they would have to have seen the incident, to etch it or sculpture it an these are from different people from Rome, to India, to Britain, to China all portraying the same thing the lion having the
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1. http://www.grosvenorprints.com/jpegs/1148.jpg   
2. http://www.grosvenorprints.com/jpegs/6445.jpg
3. http://lh4.ggpht.com/_LlfXWxcpJyU/S90EuAIm5pI/AAAAAAAAelY/-5Dy65n0ChI/Fullscreen%20capture%2002052010%20054713.bmp_thumb%5B3%5D.jpg
4. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-b-1ewj--8-U/TcldVkFC2RI/AAAAAAAACrk/4pK2eeykqrE/s1600/The+British+Lion%25E2%2580%2599s+Vengeance+on+the+Bengal+Tiger.jpg
5.http://www.monstermedals.com/ekmps/shops/monstermedals/images/seringapatam-medal-1799-bronze-426-p.jpg
6. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2162/2327160149_b2c00365d3.jpg
7.http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad19/JinenFordragon/4020413334_f726b193eb_z.jpg
8. http://japanantiques.net/japanese-antique-meiji-ox-bone-okimono-male-lion-fighting-a-tiger-on-wood-stand
9.http://c48743.r43.cf3.rackcdn.com/Images/2009_04/08/0003/147355/147355_c40ec03c-3661-4b2e-b4f7-5314cb28b9b4_-1_273.Jpeg
10. http://www.signature-antiquite.com/content/product_2823291b.jpg
11. http://images.metmuseum.org/CRDImages/dp/web-highlight/DP805844.jpg
12. http://www.huma3.com/repository/reviews/afterdelacroix.jpg
13. http://www.raden-saleh.org/enlionsandtigerfighting.jpg
14. http://ylovebigcats.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/lion_tiger.jpg
15. http://www.artvalue.com/photos/auction/0/44/44618/slevogt-max-1868-1932-germany-kampf-zwischen-lowe-und-tiger-2088424.jpg
16.http://www.kunstkopie.de/kunst/ferdinand_victor_eugene_delacr/kampf_loewe_tiger_hi.jpg
17. http://www.royalathena.com/media/Under2500/Roman/GMS021.jpg
18. http://www.dargate.com/cat/268/86.jpg
19. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KfXm6QzlOl4/SX-JaFClajI/AAAAAAAAApQ/m_sqELU4ZGk/s1600-h/lion+statue+cope.jpg
20.http://www.empyraeum-antiquaria.de/ebay/graf/2609_11/2609_5_1.jpg
21.http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2009/05/15/news/photos_galleries/G3061_photo06.jpg
22. http://www.eliteauction.com/catalogues/060411/images/296_1.jpg
23. http://www.simmonsgallery.co.uk/2001site/medals/MB58-Auction-Historical-medals/thumbnails/MB58-135Serial%20Letter%20t.jpg
24. http://www.historytoday.com/sites/default/files/rb_fight.jpg
25.http://www.wildabouttheworld.com/gallery/data//519/medium/LM00831lion-tiger.jpg
26. http://www.tias.com/stores/globe/thumbs/02287a.jpg
27. http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-1950s-lion-tiger-fighting-figurine-japan
28. http://www.skinnerinc.com/full/927/872927.jpg
29. http://www.art-prints-on-demand.com/kunst/eugene_delacroix/lion_savaging_tiger_hi.jpg
30. http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://images2.bridgemanart.com/cgi-bin/bridgemanImage.cgi/150.XYC.5860820.7055475/277506.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bridgemanart.com/search.aspx%3Fkey%3Dartist:landseer%26filter%3DCBPOIHV%26sl%3Dgb&usg=__oSJ9VYOBIr4FuVmDEsmPX6sZ-YU=&h=116&w=150&sz=5&hl=en&start=118&sig2=ZSOY4AulttDtR_5__TmZFg&zoom=1&tbnid=hJA1l7_WbAJj0M:&tbnh=74&tbnw=96&ei=z1O8T4GAH9DXiQKZ-annDQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dbridgemanart.com%2Blion%2Band%2Btiger%26start%3D100%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN%26rlz%3D1G1GGLQ_ENUS428%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1
31. http://prints-4-u.com/store/images/F1431805/F1431805101.jpg
32. http://img.antiquesreporter.com.au/110626BNSY/388.jpg   
33.http://liveimages.quicksales.com.au/quicksales/general/classified/gc4686207972357702311.jpg?width=300&height=225&aspect=fitwithin&padcolor=ffffff
34 http://movieart.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/full-darkestafrica-1sh.jpg
35.http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/brentonlion/books_003-63.png
36. http://storage.canalblog.com/22/68/119589/21241443.jpg
37. http://img.carters.com.au/134770-tn.jpg
38. http://rsjohnsonfineart.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Fragonard-to-Feininger-Exhibition-Theodore-Gericault-Combat-of-a-Lion-and-a-Tiger-213x213.jpg
39. http://www.antiquated.co.uk/productimages/2511200674623lion1_th.jpg
40.http://www.christies.com/lotfinderimages/d19958/d1995873r.jpg
41. http://storage.canalblog.com/45/07/119589/74167850.jpg
42. http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61pwwRAdwJL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
43. http://storage.canalblog.com/79/17/119589/69752062_p.jpg
44. http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/paintings/lions-and-tigers-fighting-over-a-stag-68354
45. http://www.artvalue.com/image.aspx?PHOTO_ID=2978976
46. http://www.antiquesreporter.com.au/index.cfm/lot/496867-a-japanese-bronze-lion-and-tiger-meiji-period-of-a-lion-fighting/

TIGER”S ROAR…
http://inchinapinch.com/hab_pgs/terres/coniferous/images/tiger_roar.mp3
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LION’S ROAR…
http://www.tunghai74.org/forums/movie/MGM-Lion-Roar.mp3
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Cultrual knowledge
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http://www.suyeongminsok.or.kr/eng/menu01_02.php
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Lion fighting a nian who the tiger couldent.
http://www.sevenstarmantis.co.uk/7.html
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Indian folklore has the lion as the ultimate test not tigers.
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http://www.wild-india.com/IndianAnimals/indian-lion.html
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Lion god’s diplicted by men.
http://home.worldonline.nl/~rlion/lkgode.htm

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http://www.ladyoftheflame.co.uk/Deities.htm
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Lion kill’s bear’s
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http://shaggygod.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=felidaeannex&action=display&thread=798&page=3
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1.1902 lion named roosevlet killed peary the polar bear.
2.John heliot’s circus lion named brutus kills polar bear.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/ScottBanks/lionkillspolarbear.jpg
3. lion kills polar bear 1955 By Alfred Court.[Book]Pages 131-132,
http://www.worthpoint.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Life-With-Big-Cats.jpg
4. lion kills polar bear Louis Roth, forty years with jungle killers, [Book]
page 204-205.
http://www.worthpoint.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Louis-Roth.jpg
5.1893 Pezon in limoges, Leo the lion kills polar bear
6.Boltimore the lion kills russian grizzley
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/265/sdffti0.jpg/
7. Lion stale mate’s enormous grizzley bear
THE OAKLAND TRIBUNE APRIL 1, 1895 "A DRAW" PARNELL FIGHTS A BIG BEAR.
THE LOS ANGELES TIMES APRIL 2, 1895 "BRUIN THROWS LEO
8. Lion kills bruin the grizzly bear
http://www.pictures-of-cats.org/images/lion-vs-bear.gif
9.http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/brentlion_2008/brentonlion/books_003-25.png   

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A STANDS FOR ACOUNTS= WHICH IS TRUE OR/AN HAS RESOURCES
B STANDS FOR BULLSHIT= and BIAS TALK, OR FAKE WORDINGS THAT HAS BEEN CHANGED
O STANDS FOR OPINION= IDEAS OF FANS TO EXPERTS IN WHO MIGHT WIN, NO FIGHTS
R STANDS FOR REPEAT=A REPEAT COPY OF THE SAME OCCAISION
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1.A TRUE BUT HAS OTHER ALIBIES OF LIONS WINNING AS WELL
2.O NO FIGHT
3.B THERE ARE LION ACCOUNTS AND POOR RESOURCES
4.B COPY OF NUMBER 88 CHANGED WORDINGS FROM NUMBER 352 NO 60 DEATHS
64.A TRUE
65.B CHANGED WORDINGS HORRIBLE GRAMMAR FAKED
66.A TRUE BUT ONLY 1 LION DIED BILL THE LION NOT FOUR LIONS
69.A TRUE YET WHAT ABOUT THE TIGER???
70.O NO RESOURCE FROM ROY CHAPMAN WHO’S MENTIONING AN OLD FIGHT SO NO FIGHT.
71.O NO FIGHT
72.A NO DEATH IT SAYS PERHAPS
73.B IT WAS IN NAWARANGA WITH TONS OF ACCOUNTS ALIBIING SINGE LIONS WON
77.A TRUE
78.A NO DEATHS
79.A CLYDE BEATTY LOST 4 TIGERS AFTER 3 MORE WILL BE ANY OTHES ARE REPEATS
80.R REPEATING MENAGERIE
81.A LOOKS AS A REPEAT WITH NO RESOURCE
82.R REPEATING OF ROMAN TIMES
83.A A 2X TIGER BIGGER KILLED A SMALL FEMALE LION
84.O NO FIGHT
85.P WHERE IN THE ROMAN DAYS???
86.O WHAT FIGHT WHERE???
87.B NO FIGHT ONLY ASUMPTIONS
88.B REPEAT OF NUMBER 4 CHANGED WORDINGS FROM 352
89.B REPEATING NUMBER 77
90.B POOR RESOURCES LOOKS AS IF ITS TALKING POLITICS?
91.A THOUGH ON A CRPPILED LION
92.R REPEATING ROMAN DAYS
93.A TRUE
95.B WHERE THE ROMAN DAYS???
96.R REPEATING ROY CHAPMAN SAME RESOURCE
98.O NO IT SAYS THEY ARE FRIENDS ONLY PLAYING ROUGH NO DEATH
99.R REPEATING ROMAN DAYS
100.O NO DEATHS ONLY ASSUMPTIONS ON ROMAN DAYS
101.R OF NUMBER 64
102.A TRUE
103.B NO DEATH
104.O EVEN PARKER SAID BY NATURE STANDARDS LIONS WIN BECAUSE OF PRIDES
105.R OF NUMBER 72
106.O NO DEATHS
107.O NO FIGHT
108.R OF ROMAN DAYS
109.A TRUE
110.O NO FIGHTS
111.O YES BUT NO KILLS SO CAN A LION
112.B WHERE??? POOR GRAMMAR EVEN ITS TRUE THAT’S TWO ON ONE
113.B IT WAS AN ACT NO DEATHS ANYWAY
120.O NO DEATHS
121.R REPEATING ROMAN TIMES WITH SAME SOURCE
120.O AND NO DEATHS
121.R REPEAT OF ROMAN DAYS SAME SOURCE
122.A BUT NO DEATH
123.A BUT NO DEATH
124.A BUT NO DEATH
125.A MORE PROOF
126.R REPEATING ROMAN TIMES
127.R REPEATING ROMAN TIMES SAME SOURCE
128.R REPEATING ROMAN TIMES SAME SOURCE
129.R OF CHARLES DARWIN
130.R OF NUMBER 77
131.O NOT IN ENGLISH
132.O WHERE CAN AFRICAN MEET A BENGAL IN THE WILD???
133.R OF NUMBER 132 WHICH TITLE IS ON MEDICINE???
134.R REPEATING NUMER 133
135.R REPETING ROMAN TIMES
136.O NO FIGHT
137.A MORE PROOF???
138.R REPRAT OF ROMAN TIMES SAME SOURCE
139.A BUT NO DEATH
140.O NO FIGHT
141.B SINGH HAD 4 ACCOUNTS LIONS WON
142.A MORE PROOF???
143.O NO FIGHT
144.R OF NUMBER 143
145.R OF 141
148.O WHERE???
149.R OF NUMBER 70
150.R OF ROMAN TIMES AME SOURCE
152.O NO FIGHTS
153.B CHANGE WORDINGS OLIVER GOLD SMITH DUBBED LIONS ABOVE ALL
154.O NO FIGHTS
155.R OF 148
156.R OF CLYDE BEATTYS SAME INCIDENT
157.O REPEATING OF THE ROMAN DAYS
158.O NO FIGHT
159.O REPEATING OF THE ROMAN DAYS
160.R OF 159
161.R OF 158
162.O NO FIGHT
163.0 NO FIGHT
164.A BUT NO DEATH
165.A BUT NO DEATH
166.A BUT NO DEATH
167.R CLYDE BEATTYS SAME ACT
168.O AND R
169.O WITH NO PROOF
170.R OF 169
171.O WITH NO PROOF
172.O WITH NO PROOF
174.A LIONS WON
175.A BUT NO DEATHS CHESTER WAS RAISED WITH ALL THOSE LIONS
182.R REPEATING REX THE TIGER
186.O WITH NO PROOF
187.R OF BANGALORE ZOOLIGICAL GARDENS
188.A LOOKS LIKE 187 AN 189
189.A LOOKS LIKE 188 AN187
190. A MORE PROOF???
192.A NO DEATH
193.R REPEATING CLYDE BEATTYS ACT
194.R REPEATING CLYDE BEATTYS ACT
200.R REPEATING CLYDE BEATTYS ACT
201.O WITH OUT PROOF
202.O AND REPEATING ROMAN DAYS
203.O WITH NO PROOF
204.O WITH NO PROOF
205.O WITH NO PROOF
206.B WHERE???
207.O JUST NAMING ATTRIBUTES
208.R REPEATING ROMAN TIMES
209.A MORE PROOF
210.B JUST NAMIMG ATTRIBUTES
211.B JUST NAMING OPINIONS
212.O JUST NAMING ATTRIBUTES
213.R REPEATING ROMAN DAYS SAME SOURCE
214.R OF MARTIAL
215.R OF ONLY ATTRIBUTES NO FIGHTS
216.R OF 70 CHAPMAN ANDREW SAME SOURCE
217.B NOTHING ON TOPIC
218.R OF NUMER 216
219.B NO FIGHT
220.B ONLY OPINIONS
221.A MORE PROOF
222.R REPEATING GEORGE WOODS AN CHANGED WORDINGS
223.B ONLY NAMING ATTRIBUTES
224.B ONLY NAMING ATTRIBUTES
225.R OF ROMAN TIMES SAME SOURCE
226.B ONLY NAMING ATTRIBUTES
227.A BUT NO DEATHS OR WHO WON???
228.R OF CLYDE BEATTYS ACT
229.B NAMING NOTHING
230.R OF BULL TIGER AN LION FIGHT.
231.R OF NO DEATH OF FIGHT
232.A TIGER KILLS LION CUBS/ HUMANS KILLED LION
233.R OF NO DEATH
234.B NO DEATH
235.R OF ROMAN TIMES
236.R OF NUMBER 137
245. O WITH NO FIGHT
246.R OF NUMBER 165
247.R OF ATTRIBUTES OF BALANCE NO FIGHTS
248.R OF CLYDE BEATTY ACTS
248.R TWICE AS 248 NUMBER NOFIGHT
249.A NO DEATHS OF ANY
250.B CHANGED WORDINGS OF ZOOLIGICAL GARDENS WHICH HAD PROOF
251.B NO DEATH ONLY PAST SPRWLS
252.O NAIMING ONLY TRAITS
253.A MORE PROOF???
254.A TRUE
255.R MENAGERIE
256.A BOTH KILLING EACH OTHER BUT NO NUMBER COUNT
257.R OF NUMBER 70 ROY CHAPMAN JUST FROM A DIFFERENT SOURCE
258.R OF ROMAN TIMES SAME SOURCE
290.B ONE TIGER KILLED 31 LIONS WHERE???
291.R ROMAN TIMES
292.R OF 256
293.B A TIGER KILLS A TIGER NO LION FIGHT
295.B ONLY A DEBATE
296.O ON NOTHING BUT HYPE/ NO FIGHT
297.B THERES NOTHING???
298.A TRUE
299.REPEAT OF
300.R OF NUMBER 73
301.B NO VICTORY
302.B NO FIGHT ONLY ASUMPTIONS
303.B NO FIGHT ONLY ASSUMPTIONS
304.B NO FIGHT
305. NOFIGHT ONLY IDEAS
306.O NO FIGHT
307.A/O THERES OTHERS SAY IT WAS THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
308.R REPEAT ON MENAGERIE
309.O NO DEATH
310.R ROMAN DAYS SAME SOURCE
312.B NO FIGHT ONLY BIAS MABEL TALKING CRAP
313.B THERES NOTHING
314.B ITS EXPLAING AN EXPLANTION OF PRONOUNCIATION NO FIGHT
315.O WHERE???
316.R SAME STRORY THAT INVOLVES THE TIGER AN BOY
317.A TRUE
318.R REPEATING CLYDE BEATTYS ACTS
319.R REPEATING ROMAN DAYS
320.R REPEATING BRUSE HERALD
321.O NO FIGHTS
322.A BUT NO DEATHS
323.O NO FIGHT
324.R STORY REPEATING NUMBER 321
325.A TRUE
326.A MORE PROOF???
327.B MORE PROOF OF WHAT RESORCE???
328.A. MORE PROOF
329.R REPEATING GERALD.L. WOOD
330.R REPEATING GERALD .L. WOOD
331.B NO FIGHT NO LION EVEN MENTIONED
332.R OF NUMBER 316
333.B YOU CANT SEE ANYTHING
334.R REPEATING ONLY AN OPINION ON BALANCE
335.B NO FIGHT ONLY A GUESSING GAME
336.O AND REPEATING 335 POSIBBLY METIONING LIONS WON,
337.R REPEATING THE TIGER SAVES THE PERSON IN ITALY
338.A NO DEATHS
339.R REPEATING THE CALCUTTA ZOO EVEN WITH CHANGED WORDINGS
340.R OF LIONS IN HER THROES
341.A TRUE
342.A NO DEATH
343.O THEY WERE ALL RAISED TOGERTHER WITH NO FIGHTS
344.0 NO FIGHT
345.O NO FIGHT
346.O NO FIGHT
347.O NO FIGHT
348.O NO FIGHT
349.A NO DEATH
350.O NO DEATHS
351.O NO FIGHT
352.A/R AND THIS IS WHERE NUMMER 4 WAS CHANGED FROM THE 60 DEATHS
352.R OF EDMONDS MENAGARERIE BOTH UNDER NUMBER 252
353.O NO VICTOR
354.O NO FIGHT
355.R OF ROMAN TIMES
356.O AN CANT READ ANYTHING
357.R BRONX ZOO
358.A NO DEATHS
359.O NO FIGHT
360.A TRUE
361.R OF RAJAH THE TIGER
362.A NO DEATHS
363.O NO DEATHS
364.R REPEATING CAGED INCIDENT WHICH ALSO LIONS HAVE AS WELL
365.O NO FIGHT
366.R OF ZOOLGICAL GARDENS
367.R OF SINGH WHO ALSO HAS LION ACCOUNTS WINNING
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THERE YOU HAVE IT, I LOVE BOTH TIGERS AN LIONS AND JUST WANTED TO EXPLOIT A PUNCK BITCH! ON HIS SO CALL 367 TIGERS KILLING LIONS ACCOUNTS HUH! WHERE EVERY TIGER FANATIC LION HATER, COMES TO AN ALIBIES TIGERS HAVE SO MUCH OF A SUPERIORTY ON WHEN BASICALLY THEY ARE AKIN IN EVERY ATTRIBUTE, WHEN IN FACT THERES ONLY 30 ACCOUNTS OF TIGER’S KILLING LIONS IN THIS INTIRE SUM UP, OF HIM COLLECTING EVERYTHING THERE IS ON LIONS LOSING VS TIGERS A 100%DEDACATIONAL http://jackjacksonj.webs.com/tigervslionaccounts.htm SITE OF HIS PURE BIAS COWARDNESS.FLOODED WITH REPEATING ACCOUNTS, WITH JUST DIFFERNT SOURCES OF THE SAME OCCAISION AN 95% OF THE SITE ISINT ACCOUNTS AT ALL, THEY ALL ARE HALF OPINIONS AN HALF REPEATS, TO SHOW AS IF AN OPINION IS AN ACCOUNT. SO PLEASE EVERY ONE, FEEL FREE TO COPY AN PASTE, FOR I HAVE STUDIED IT FOR HOURS MIXING AN MATCHING ALL THE REPEATS, OPINIONS AN BULLSHIT ACCOUNTS AN ONLY FOUND AROUND 30 REAL ONES WITH DEATH ACCOUNTS AN COPY AN PASTE A SMALL PAGE FOR YOUR SELF AN REVIEW MY MACTING OF HIS REPEATS, BULLSHITS AN OPINIONS AN SEE IF YOU CAN FIND OTHERS I MAY HAVE MISSED USING THIS AS A BLUE PRINT TWARDS AT HIS HITE SHOWN ABOVE OF WHAT I FOUND SO FAR, WHICH IS A HIGH POSIBILITY I COULD HAVE MISSED MORE BULLSHIT LOL.
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WHEN IN FACT THIS WHOLE PAGE, IS ONLY EQUIVELENT OF TIGER VICTORYS OF REAL ACCOUNTS TO THE NUMBERS OF TIGERS THAT WERE KILLED BY LIONS IN ONE RESOURCE CLYDE BEATTY THAT’S ONLY 1 RESOURCE XD WHEN THERE ARE TONS OF OTHER REAL ACcOUNTS OF LIONS KILLING TIGERS 1 ON 1. LOL WOW THAT LOSER WAS PATHITIC REPEATING SO MANY AS IF PEOPLE WOULDENT SEE AN LABELING THEM AS DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS XD XD


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Exploited and faked account’s
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#1.Everland of white tiger killing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3P3sptnCUI
Now first of all, the artcle say’s the lion was new,which is bullcrap… that lion is named cameron who was with that zoo since he was a cub and came in with that tigress named Zabu who are now with big cat rescue.
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Now look at these picture’s of them playing, an tell me exactly how is the camera man suppose to have get that picture he took at that distance before the people who patrol the zoo’s with there car’s always’s broke up fight’s hundred’s of time’s? And how’s this camera man suppose to get that shot at that persice moment it happened when the distance are so flush and looks as the exact distnace as these right here…
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http://bigcatrescue.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Lion-and-White-Tiger-BCR-002012Mar.jpg
http://b.vimeocdn.com/ts/181/445/181445824_640.jpg
http://downloads.thedaily.com/photos/2011/08/17/081811-news-white-lion-tiger-4-662w.jpg
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/photo/2010-02/13/13174835_11n.jpg
http://bigcatrescue.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Lion-White-Tiger-Running-2012-Steve-bigcats322.jpg
http://www.bigcatfun.com/gallery/galleries/categories/valentine/camnzabu/thumb94-8.jpg
http://www.bigcatfun.com/gallery_dwp/valentine/camnzabu/Valentine-CamNzabu003.jpg
http://www.bigcatfun.com/gallery_dwp/valentine/camnzabu/Valentine-CamNzabu007.jpg
http://bigcatfun.com/wallpapers/easter/1024/EasterBCR-CamNzabu004.jpg
http://media-cache0.pinterest.com/upload/112449321916127300_baFa6dcy_b.jpg
http://b.vimeocdn.com/ts/181/445/181445824_640.jpg
http://bigcatrescue.org//images/000BigCatPhotos/liontiger/LionTigerPhotosLigerZabuOnCameronWhiteTigerLion.jpg
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Here’s a Url saying zabu cleaning cameron XD
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http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/30/b95e885f2ab170c7cff8fc70c6c9f2be/l.jpg
one picture frame away… does it look familiar? XD XD

Huh! That’s right caught in the act, I’m a landscaper and ground’s keeper for 8 year’s and studyed the biology of hundred’s of different grasses, and the grass in the picture with the so call death and Cameron’s and zmabu collection of picture’s are the same. I even emailed everland’s resort and they stated that, that never happened and cameron the lion is still alive today. You don’t belive, then here, here’s there contact email and phone number to get a hold of them, yourself…
http://www.everland.com/MultiLanguage/english/resort/introduce/intro.html
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#2Here’s another tiger fanatic lying punk, who said there was 6 lion’s used on 1 tiger Huh! Really 6, give me a break, here it is…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GXoKnG4ksY
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Here’s a person graphing all the tiger’s showing just like a human’s finger print, no tiger has the same stripe’s, showing there was indeed 3 lion’s vs 3 tiger’s like the real movie’s narrirator said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBdpiIxMnMM
Ive seen the original video, it had nothing to do with them fighting it was a documentaion of all the animal’s of india, and none on youtube have the original, which suppose to have a narrirator talking, stating that beside’s all the animal’s they descirbed for the fight scene the lion’s and tiger’s that fought the tiger’s couldent land a death grip and gassed them selve’s out. But lion #2 mauled the big male tiger.
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#3Another one is junglar the fighting tiger who killed 31 lion’s. this is a fake account and a missprint. First there was an article that had numbering’s of junglar killing them with the number’s 31, after I confronted the guy who showed it, I told him I read 4 document’s of junglar an they stated he didn’t fight any lion’s he was famous for killing a lot buffalo’s and was the first tiger who brought down a rhino, who a few tiger’s failed to do. Who also he killed a few other tiger’s and said it must have been a misprint because I know the king of oude had very few lion’s.
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This mook then stated I was lieing, and showed a revised one saying in wording, look now…. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wt35viKeC4g/TiHD0TnEAUI/AAAAAAAAAQQ/_SBctIVNkmc/s1600/j3.jpg It say’s thirthy one lion’s in wording’s you cant misprint letter’s, and I’m lieing about the what I’m saying. XD XD Then I said you were caught in the act because when you revised the new one that said wording’s of the number’s the date you edited it was still there an this one has a different name from junglar to gunga … an I said okay here’s where it state’s the King of oude had only 3 lion’s, here…
www.abaa.org/books/297312243.html - 14k
www.amazon.com/Private-Life- Eastern -King -Nussir.../1108046703 - 178k
http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS428&q=eastern+king+of+oude+&btnG=Google+Search
http://books.google.com/books/about/The_private_life_of_an_Eastern_king_by_W.html?id=c2wBAAAAQAAJ
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In those site’s and those book’s, they state the King of oude had only 3 lion’s it look’s almost uncanny that he just put 1 after 3 to make 31, than changed it in another to wording’s to make it look lgeit and after confronting him with the real document’s he never replyed back hmmm…I wonder why? XD
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#4 Jackjacksonj site had claimed he had 367 account’s I mixed and matched all the account’s and he had only 30 that mean’s he leid on 330 account’s, which I posted the answer sheet you can go threw on page 2 also on his site I left all the one’s he lied on in his guest book and blog.
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#5 The same idiot named Ptigirs who made the account of 6 lion’s with Gir has many account’s on you tube here’s another one of his faked one’s of being a lion hater…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eqWZJtdhCc
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And here’s the real account he changed the wording’s from…
` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyOG0SYNmjA `
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#6 Ton’s of people use Prison of the harem with performing acting lions and tiger’s as an account, which say’s the tiger killed the lion, http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LHRQksxjaxU/TZskXRKae0I/AAAAAAAAAMw/WbYgBNAT5l4/s320/sdfaasdfadsf.JPG
XD That’s only people reading the story’s plot, that the tiger killed the lion,, he didn’t actually die, it was only a scene for the movie no lion’s were ever killed for any movie. Only the movie the big cage, had 3 tiger’s die, one was bobby the tiger the star for the movie and other 2 were suppose to have been the star of defeating the lion ceasar, for the scrpit the director wanted a tiger winning…but the first 2 tiger’s died so fast that there wasent any footage to be recorded, but Bobby was the one who was aired in the movie, who Cesar killed. Shown in this article shown 3/4th’s the way down this page here…
http://wildanimalelite.yuku.com/topic/37/Lion-vs-tiger-fight-accounts?page=1
Clyde beatty was asked in general who beat’s who, which he stated lion’s would gang up on tiger’s though only if they are intermidiate family member’s… like brother’s or son’s and father’s, in many other article’s he state’s lion’s are exlellent free for all fighter’s where tiger’s cant handle the pressure of those bout’s, also the big cage exhibition for the movie was 1 on 1 in demand from the director, not clyde beatty who is only the trainer, who stated he actually dident want the fight in many article’s, but if he dident take the role some other person unexperinced, would have gotton killed.
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