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Topic: 16th Turkish General Election, 2007 Posted: 22-Jul-2007 at 19:56 |
Turkey re-elects governing party
Supporters of Turkey's governing AK Party are celebrating after the country's prime minister claimed a comprehensive general election victory.
Recep Tayyip Erdogan vowed to work for national unity after his party won re-election with almost 50% of votes.
He told cheering crowds in Ankara that the AKP victory was a triumph for Turkish democracy.
Opponents had insisted that a win for the Islamist-rooted AKP could undermine Turkey's secular traditions.
The election was called after opposition parties in parliament blocked the AK Party's nominee for the post of president, causing political deadlock.
But the BBC's Chris Morris, in Ankara, the Turkish capital, says the AKP has now scored a stunning victory, and those who still believe it is a threat to the secular system are clearly in a minority.
Reports said the AKP had won about 47% of the nationwide vote after some three-quarters of votes were counted.
Two opposition parties won the 10% share needed to guarantee seats in parliament: the secularist Republican People's Party (CHP) polled 20%, and the right-wing Nationalist Action Party (MHP) 14%.
Those gains meant the AK Party would have about 340 seats in the 550-member parliament, Turkish media said.
Estimates said the CHP would win 112 seats and the MHP 70 seats, with about 25 going to independent candidates, including pro-Kurdish politicians.
Unity call
Speaking in Ankara, Mr Erdogan said his party would continue pursuing Turkey's ambitions of joining the European Union.
In front of cheering crowds waving Turkish flags and the blue flags of the AKP, Mr Erdogan said he would work for all Turkish people, no matter who they had voted for.
"Democracy has passed a very important test," he said, pledging to continue economic and democratic reforms.
"Whoever you have voted for... We respect your choices. We regard your differences as part of our pluralist democracy. It is our responsibility to safeguard this richness."
He also vowed to continue the fight against Kurdish rebels in the east of Turkey.
Sentiments high
Voting was compulsory and turnout was reported to be extremely high.
Some 42 million people were eligible to vote in the poll, while 14 parties vied for seats in parliament.
Poling stations were busy from early on Sunday, with supporters of the secular establishment out in force as well as AKP voters.
Many people broke into applause as Turkey's military chief of staff arrived to cast his vote.
In the run-up to the election generals had warned that the army was prepared to step in to defend Turkey's strict secular system.
The deadlock in parliament emerged when the AKP tried to nominate Abdullah Gul, a former foreign minister, for the post of president - traditionally a secular figurehead for the republic.
Opposition parties blocked Mr Gul's appointment, as well as government reforms proposing direct elections to choose a president.
Turkey's current president and its secularist establishment have vowed to resist what they regard as the Islamist agenda of the AK Party.
Mr Erdogan's government dismisses that portrayal, pointing to its record of five straight years of economic growth and the start of membership negotiations with the European Union. |
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Posted: 22-Jul-2007 at 20:13 |
Happy to hear this, im sure Mortaza is celebrating, but what now? do they get to 2/3 majority?
looks like they just miss out. who will they partner with? AFAIK its either CHP, MHP or the kurdish block (DTP). Tough choice, one conservative opponent and a ultraright wing party that both regard the AKP as a danger to the republic, the other DTP aligned politicians would certainly create a blacklash amongst the other turkish voters, especailly right now......
I just realised how unfair the 10% hurdle is.
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Posted: 22-Jul-2007 at 20:15 |
I am content with the current situation, because many people who did vote for it, do not really like AKP, but see it as a lesser evil when compared to fascist - militarist pseudoleftist coalition.
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Posted: 22-Jul-2007 at 20:17 |
i agree on the lesser evil description. anyway forward is good, even if not in excatly the direction one wants. better than the status quo.
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Posted: 22-Jul-2007 at 20:21 |
Originally posted by Leonidas
who will they partner with? |
They don't need to partner with anyone. It will be a single party government.
Originally posted by Leonidas
one conservative opponent and a ultraright wing partythat both regard the AKP as a danger to the republic |
MHP is as much religious as AKP, if not more. By planning a coalition with it, Kemalists proved that they don't care about secularism at all.
Originally posted by Leonidas
I just realised how unfair the 10% hurdle is. |
Indeed. Still, an independent socialist, Ufuk Uras is elected with 79,381 votes.
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Posted: 22-Jul-2007 at 20:37 |
Although I'm still learning about Turkish politics, I was barracking for AKP. With 340 seats they have a 61% hold. They only need 28-29 more seats for the two third majority. The paper today described MHP as "wanting to create an Irani style theocracy in Turkey", off the bat I'm going to assume thats a lie. But is it a lie wrapped around an element of truth or just a lie?
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Posted: 22-Jul-2007 at 20:51 |
Originally posted by Omar al Hashim
The paper today described MHP as "wanting to create an Irani style theocracy in Turkey", off the bat I'm going to assume thats a lie. But is it a lie wrapped around an element of truth or just a lie?
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Umm, no, that sounds more like Felicity Party.
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Posted: 22-Jul-2007 at 23:27 |
Turkey is unfortunate in not yet realizing full potential in the modern world.
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Posted: 22-Jul-2007 at 23:32 |
Originally posted by Feanor
Originally posted by Leonidas
who will they partner with? | They don't need to partner with anyone. It will be a single party government. . |
I was think in terms of voting for the president.
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Posted: 22-Jul-2007 at 23:54 |
Originally posted by Leonidas
I was think in terms of voting for the president. |
Oh, I see. AKP will have to find a different solution, I think.
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Posted: 23-Jul-2007 at 02:26 |
1. Opposition had no alternative social program. They only shouted "no headscarf!" and "AKP is selling our motherland". The results show that majority of the people reacted against military intervention in politics.
2. It's obvious that those shouting fascist Turks on the internet atre not the majority in Turkey.
3. AKP is the only party which could stand against the independent candidates supported by DTP, so it's obvious that only majority party that unifies Kurds and Turks is AKP today.
4. There is a socialist in the parliament now: Ufuk Uras. He alone can do better opposition than the pseudoleftist CHP.
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Posted: 23-Jul-2007 at 05:24 |
Happy to hear this, im sure Mortaza is celebrating, but what now? do they get to 2/3 majority?
I was waiting it but not so much success. I think this is the goverment who increased his vote with biggest margin..
I think, this is the biggest vote AKP see.(If leader of CHP change).
I just realised how unfair the 10% hurdle is.
Not at this election. I think 85% of vote entered parliment.
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Posted: 23-Jul-2007 at 05:31 |
Originally posted by Mortaza
I was waiting it but not so successful. I think this is the goverment who increased his vote with biggest margin..
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Well i was also not expecting that successfull
Originally posted by Mortaza
I just realised how unfair the 10% hurdle is.
Not at this election. I think 85% of vote entered parliment. |
It doesent matter how many peopel gone for voting, 10% is unfair.
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Posted: 23-Jul-2007 at 05:31 |
3. AKP is the only party which could stand against the independent candidates supported by DTP, so it's obvious that only majority party that unifies Kurds and Turks is AKP today.
Akp got more kurdish vote than DTP.
this just showed, If someone take kurds as human being. Kurds will support him..
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Posted: 23-Jul-2007 at 05:50 |
Originally posted by kotumeyil
2. It's obvious that those shouting fascist Turks on the internet atre not the majority in Turkey. |
some of us already new that
Originally posted by Mortaza
Happy to hear this, im sure Mortaza is celebrating, but what now? do they get to 2/3 majority?
I was waiting it but not so much success. I think this is the goverment who increased his vote with biggest margin..
I think, this is the biggest vote AKP see.(If leader of CHP change). |
referendum me thinks. i found a great post on a BBC blog.(post number 18)
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Posted: 23-Jul-2007 at 05:59 |
Partly referendum. If It was totally referendum, vote would be 70%.
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Posted: 23-Jul-2007 at 08:38 |
Originally posted by Feanor
I am content with the current situation, because many people who did vote for it, do not really like AKP, but see it as a lesser evil when compared to fascist - militarist pseudoleftist coalition. |
Sounds like American politics. Voting for a lesser party in order to diminish the potential of a rival. Kinda like voting for Kerry. Better than the alternative yet not really a good choice on his own.
So the disgrungtled youth don't really like the old establishment? CHP is a trainwreck with Baykal. Change the party leader, have a plan for the future and learn from the times. Cosmopolitan votes are in as they should be.
Can anyone really stand to look at Kasimpasali Erdogan on TV anymore?When he talks he sounds like the ghetto. Nice going Turks! Not! Now live with him for the next few years and all his cohorts of corruption.
Originally posted by elenos
Turkey is unfortunate in not yet realizing full potential in the modern world. |
... and that's what I think about the Detroit Lions too. Unless you have more to say go troll somewhere else.
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Posted: 23-Jul-2007 at 08:46 |
Sounds like American politics. Voting for a lesser party in order to diminish the potential of a rival. Kinda like voting for Kerry. Better than the alternative yet not really a good choice on his own.
So the disgrungtled youth don't really like the old establishment? CHP is a trainwreck with Baykal. Change the party leader, have a plan for the future and learn from the times. Cosmopolitan votes are in as they should be.
Can anyone really stand to look at Kasimpasali Erdogan on TV anymore?When he talks he sounds like the ghetto. Nice going Turks! Not! Now live with him for the next few years and all his cohorts of corruption.
Erdogan popularity is more than popularity of his party. So It looks like half of Turkey not only stand to look Erdogan but also like him..(want to immigrate people from mars?)
When It comes to better of evil, It is idea of Feanor. He is right acording to his ideas. He is a leftist and of course a rightist party only can be better of evil.
But for conservative people, AKP is fine. Infact, I find everything I wanted from AKP.(Generally)
I should also add, It is not important If CHP ruled by Baykal or others. CHP should totally change. I think creating a party would be more efficent and easy for left.
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Posted: 23-Jul-2007 at 09:04 |
Almost forgot. Where are my manners? First and foremost, congratulations to all who voted. This was the will of the people and a reflection of today's Turkish society. Doesn't mean I like it. Doesn't mean I have to act like a spoiled sport either. Again, wishing all the best.
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Posted: 23-Jul-2007 at 12:39 |
Sounds like American politics. Voting for a lesser party in order to diminish the potential of a rival. Kinda like voting for Kerry. Better than the alternative yet not really a good choice on his own. |
This so-called 'lesser-evilism' destroyed the American left. There the left voted for the democrats to stop the republicans instead of voting for their own candidates.
However, what Feanor means with AKP being the lesser evil is not lesser-evilism. Because Turkish left does not vote for AKP to stop the kemalofascists.
When It comes to better of evil, It is idea of Feanor. He is right acording to his ideas. He is a leftist and of course a rightist party only can be better of evil. |
Yes, this is more like how I see it.
Btw, I think there are many socialists and especially alevi in Turkey who are still voting for CHP due to habit. I hope those votes will come to real left wing parties, where they belong. Or maybe a new left wing party is needed.
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