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    Posted: 31-Aug-2007 at 03:00
I request that the issue has to be dealt with in historical perspective.
 
No religious question comes here in such approach. However, as the Church, whether it is Catholic or Protestant or otherwise (as for as India is concerned, they work together and we Indians do not find any difference) involves in such spurios issues forging documents, the "myth of doubting Thomas" in India has become the worst historical fraud committed ever in the history.
 
If the members want, I can provide many details.
 
In fact, Mr. Vedaprakash of Madras has done extensive research in this context.
 
I also find a new member "Vedprakash" in this forum, but I doubt, whether he is the same person.
 
Coming to Thomas-myths, forgeries and historical frauds, it is better to restrict in historical aspect.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Aug-2007 at 03:44
Oh for goodness sakes! I dealt with this question in a historical manner. The contention came up of Christianity coming to Rome in the second century, I repeatedly refuted this as historical nonsense, and recieved no reply that even tries to deal with this issue. The same goes for the other issues. If you can provide more historically accurate details then please do so.

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Dear members of allempires.com.
 
I joined this forum for the following reasons:
 
1. I was informed that one "Vedprakash" is posting in this forum.  But I am not that "Vedprakash". Of course, Vedaprakash Upadhyaya has been different.
 
2. My name is mentioned here and as well as in other groups.
 
3. So I want to know what exactly is happening here.
 
4. Incidentally, I am the author of "The Saint Thomas myth in India" published in August 1989. This book has been historical perspective pinting out that the so-called coming of Thomas to Indian has been a myth.
 
5. I am posting my first entry here, as my name is incidentally appearing above.
 
6. as for as "doubting Thomas" is concerned, I am prepared to answer any query or give clarification.
 
7. I assert that historical study of this issue has nothing to do with religion and I am not against any believers.
 
8. Historical research has to be scientific and secular without any bias, prejudice or pre-determined objectives.
 
I hope I can have lively discussion in this forum.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Aug-2007 at 04:16
A warm welcome to the forum and thanks for clearing all that up, I think? When did the "Thomas myths" come about? I already gave a verifiable fourth century reference to the work. The Church at the time didn't like it either. If you refute that evidence then you are only taking the same position as before and we we will only continue recycling through the same questions.
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Treating posts of few like Deva Priya as anti-religious is too harsh. The bighearted Indian people have great respect over all religion but people familiar with this subject feel bad of such cheap forge. Deva priya is one among to react so. There is lot so to list, but such lists may very much reroute the forumers.



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I'm interested is finding grounds for discussion about these claims, but that is being openly refused. Some here are acting like authorities when they are not. I'm asking for them to present their point of view and evidence instead this game of acting offended. I have been in India and in Goa,. which is one of the places being talked about. What is happening here is someone wants to rewrite history. You use the words "cheap forge" which is yet to be proven. You sent more words with no proof. How about Devi priya talking for himself and giving some dates? On this board it is expected extreme claims are challenged or everybody would be let down and the board would suffer.   
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Originally posted by elenos

I'm interested is finding grounds for discussion about these claims, but that is being openly refused. Some here are acting like authorities when they are not. I'm asking for them to present their point of view and evidence instead this game of acting offended. I have been in India and in Goa,. which is one of the places being talked about. What is happening here is someone wants to rewrite history. You use the words "cheap forge" which is yet to be proven. You sent more words with no proof. How about Devi priya talking for himself and giving some dates? On this board it is expected extreme claims are challenged or everybody would be let down and the board would suffer.   
 
 
 
 
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Aug-2007 at 06:50
Originally posted by pumaaa123

Treating posts of few like Deva Priya as anti-religious is too harsh. The bighearted Indian people have great respect over all religion but people familiar with this subject feel bad of such cheap forge. Deva priya is one among to react so. There is lot so to list, but such lists may very much reroute the forumers.

 
 
 
I don't remember anyone saying he's anti religion, I said he's anti Christian.  The website he used as a source is anti Christian, they as much state this in the header.
 
Speaking of cheap forgeries, it doeasn't strike anyone else here as odd that someone posts his name and, "poof" Vedaprakash appears as if by magic.
And,[Shock and surprised face] has the same ip as m.nachiappen.
 


Edited by red clay - 31-Aug-2007 at 06:53
"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Aug-2007 at 06:50
Something seems slightly 'out of place' here.....
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You are right, dolphin, red clay. Somebody, anybody,  please amaze me with your dazzling array of evidence! I promise to read it, no matter how extraordinary.


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Originally posted by elenos

You are right, red clay. Somebody, anybody,  please amaze me with your dazzling array of evidence! I promise to read it, no matter how extraordinary.
 
 
The old " if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with Bulls**t" approach won't work guys.
 
Oh and btw, both m.nachiappen and his alter vedapreshka are banned.
 
 
 
 
 


Edited by red clay - 31-Aug-2007 at 07:02
"Arguing with someone who hates you or your ideas, is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter what move you make, your opponent will walk all over the board and scramble the pieces".
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Originally posted by red clay

Originally posted by pumaaa123

Treating posts of few like Deva Priya as anti-religious is too harsh. The bighearted Indian people have great respect over all religion but people familiar with this subject feel bad of such cheap forge. Deva priya is one among to react so. There is lot so to list, but such lists may very much reroute the forumers.

 
 
I don't remember anyone saying he's anti religion, I said he's anti Christian.  The website he used as a source is anti Christian, they as much state this in the header.
 
Speaking of cheap forgeries, it doeasn't strike anyone else here as odd that someone posts his name and, "poof" Vedaprakash appears as if by magic.
And,[Shock and surprised face] has the same ip as m.nachiappen.
 
 
'Anti-religious' mean same as what you have said. Just I want to stay mild.

 

Personally I ask new forumers (like Devapriya) to wait and watch, so can absorb and identify the practice followed here. Hope being a clear but practiced posting in other generic portals and forums he had kept the same way of posting in IE too. So what, that contrast is seen.

 

Evidence? So what I said putting such things here would re route and it doesnt have any connection with the objective of this board or thread. People practicing such frauds need not be counted here as they do work for a different objective.

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Originally posted by pumaaa123

Evidence? So what I said putting such things here would re route and it doesnt have any connection with the objective of this board or thread. People practicing such frauds need not be counted here as they do work for a different objective.


You have already said that nonsense before you clown!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Sep-2007 at 04:12
This thread is way out of hand now.

Everybody re-read the special rules for this forum before you post again (link)

pumaaa123, and elenos, your both guilty of baiting and personal attacks and can consider this an unofficial warning.
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