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    Posted: 30-Jun-2007 at 20:51

I was just curious as to know what the Seljuk and Ottoman empires had contributed to the world. What inventions had they created?



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A few contributions thinking off the top of the head are;
 
Seljuk - Sugar extraction
           - Crank shaft ( considered the most important single mechanical invention after the wheel)
           - Mechanical clocks
           - Programmable humanoid robot
           - Reciprocating piston engine
           - First mental hospital (Gevher Nesibe - Kayseri)
 
Ottoman - First rocket powered flight (Lagari Celebi)
               - Inoculation (Lady Montegue wife of Ottoman ambassador bought it to Europe)
               - Siege weapons
               - Steam Turbine
               - Behcet's disease (diognoses and cure)
 
etc.... 
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  Quote eaglecap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Jul-2007 at 19:55
Originally posted by Bulldog

A few contributions thinking off the top of the head are;

Seljuk - Sugar extraction

           - Crank shaft ( consideredthe most important single mechanical invention after the wheel)

           - Mechanical clocks

           - Programmable humanoid robot

           - Reciprocating piston engine

           - First mental hospital (Gevher Nesibe - Kayseri)


Ottoman - First rocket powered flight (Lagari Celebi)

               - Inoculation (Lady Monteguewife of Ottoman ambassador bought it to Europe)

               - Siege weapons

               - Steam Turbine

               -Behcet's disease (diognoses and cure)


etc....


Please show some sources so you can back up these claims. I thought the Chinese were the first to invent rocket powered flight. These things sound too general so please explain more.

Steam Turbines???
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The oldest and simplest form of the hydraulic turbine was the waterwheel, first used in ancient Greece and subsequently adopted in most of ancient and medieval Europe for grinding grain. It consisted of a vertical shaft with a set of radial vanes or paddles positioned in a swiftly flowing stream or millrace. Its power output was about 0.5 horsepower. The horizontal-shaft waterwheel (that is, a horizontal shaft connected to a vertical paddle wheel), first described by the Roman architect and engineer Marcus Vitruvius Pollio during the 1st century bc, had the lower segment of the paddle wheel inserted into the stream, thus acting as a so-called undershot waterwheel. By about the 2nd century ad, the more efficient overshot wheel had come into use in hilly regions. Here the water was poured on the paddles from above, and additional energy was gained from the falling water. The maximum power of the waterwheel, which was constructed of wood, increased from about 3 horsepower to about 50 horsepower in the Middle Ages.

The transition from waterwheel to turbine is largely semantic. The first important attempt to formulate a theoretical basis for waterwheel design was in the 18th century by the British civil engineer John Smeaton, who proved that the overshot wheel was more efficient. The French military engineer Jean Victor Poncelet, however, devised an undershot wheel, the curved blades of which raised efficiency to nearly 70 percent; it quickly came into wide use. Another French military engineer, Claude Burdin, invented the term turbine, introduced as part of a theoretical discussion in which he stressed speed of rotation. Benoit Fourneyron, who studied under Burdin at the School of Mines at St. tienne, designed and built wheels that achieved speeds of 60 or more rpm (revolutions per minute) and provided up to 50 horsepower for French ironworks. Ultimately Fourneyron built turbines that operated at 2300 rpm, developing 60 horsepower at an efficiency of more than 80 percent.

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  Quote aslanlar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Jul-2007 at 15:34

Mechanic clocks? Wow, really, i did not know that. I had heard that inoculations were introduced into Europe through the Ottomans but was it invented by them? I'm not to sure on that. As for any of the other inventions, are there sources for these, i'd really be interested.
Now that i think about it, let's not restrict it to Seljuk and Ottoman inventions, but rather to Turkic inventions please :)?

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  Quote think Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Jul-2007 at 02:32
Programmable humanoid robot


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  Quote Lmprs Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Jul-2007 at 15:47
Originally posted by Bulldog

Seljuk- Mechanical clock

According to Wiki, it was invented by Christiaan Huygens, a Dutch, in 1656.

Originally posted by Bulldog

Seljuk- Programmable humanoid robot

Until I hear some explanation, my reaction will remain as:

Originally posted by Bulldog

Ottoman- Inoculation (Lady Montegue wife of Ottoman ambassador bought it to Europe)

Again, Wiki says that its earliest users were either Chinese or Indian.

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  Quote Bulldog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Jul-2007 at 16:18
Seljuk-Artukid
 
Crank Shaft
Mechanical clocks
Programmable humonoid robot
Segmental gear
 
Jazari
 
 
First Rocket powered flight - Lagari Hasan Celebi
 
 
Steam turbine - Taqiyuddin
 
The millitary band, well not really a Seljuk or Ottoman invention as Turks used it during the GokTurk and Xiongu periods aswell, however the Ottomans made it really popular and caused it to spread to other countries.
 
Regarding innoculation, small-pox inoculation was developed in the West via Lady Montegue bringing the Turkish method back with her.
 


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  Quote Tar Szernd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Jul-2007 at 11:09
Do you mean the check playing turk by Farkas Kemplen? (hung/germ.)
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  Quote Lmprs Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Jul-2007 at 13:07
Originally posted by Bulldog

Jazari - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Jazari

Amazing, it seems he was a true genious. Thanks for the link.

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  Quote Zagros Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Jul-2007 at 13:21
Yea, he's amazing, I had not heard of him before.
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  Quote Byzantine Emperor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Aug-2007 at 03:02
What about the piece of furniture known as the divan, which later became popularized as an "ottoman"?
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