The Battle of Gallipoli - who won?

Losses were about even AFAIK.  The only success of it was the distracting of considerable ottoman resources from the middle east

About 480,000 Allied troops took part in the Gallipoli campaign. The British had 205,000 casualties (43,000 killed). There were more than 33,600 ANZAC losses (over one-third killed) and 47,000 French casualties (5,000 killed). Turkish casualties are estimated at 250,000 (65,000 killed).   http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWgallipoli.htm

stalemate?

objective of the allies:

- take out the towers which were guarding the straits so that the british fleet could get through and threaten istanbul, forcing the ottoman government to surrender.

general rule of thumb (ive read)  is that you need roughly three times the force in attack than defense. With the element of surprise and the initial attack (inc the first couple of days) being botched, to no fault of the allied soldiers, the whole thing was doomed. Great idea stuffed up, by awful execution.

 In Australia generally it is the British officers are cast in a negative light, fairy or not, but not the turks. The whole thing is celebrated over here, on the way the ANZACS fought, despite being goners from the start. It is a sad loss that most Aussie's are very proud off.



Edited by Leonidas - 21-May-2007 at 07:32

of course ottoman lost alot more troops..
can you compare ottoman navy(nearly nothing) vs.british+fench navy(biggest navy of the world)?
i dont even mention that turks fought with bayonets.


Edited by the_oz - 21-May-2007 at 10:34

Originally posted by Leonidas . With the element of surprise and the initial attack (inc the first couple of days) being botched, to no fault of the allied soldiers, the whole thing was doomed. Great idea stuffed up, by awful execution.

Edited by Kapikulu - 21-May-2007 at 20:08

Originally posted by Kapikulu Originally posted by Joinville And the Gallipolli campaign did in fact use up the best troops of the Ottoman empire. They weren't as easy as all that to replace. They would be sorely missed later in the war.   True, The excessive mortality rates of officers created a black hole in Ottoman army in the later phases of the war.

However, the capture of Constantinople could have ended the war right there and now. So it logical to put all the defense nessasary to prevent an early knockout and shameful defeat without any victories...

Originally posted by Yiannis Ironically the best executions in the Allies plan was the landing and the disengagement phases.

are you kidding? look up anzac cove in wikipedia right now.

Originally posted by Kamikaze 738 However, the capture of Constantinople could have ended the war right there and now. So it logical to put all the defense nessasary to prevent an early knockout and shameful defeat without any victories...