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    Posted: 23-May-2007 at 17:20
Bulldog if you compare Dolma with History then you ......no comment LOLLOL
 
Seljuks settled in Persia during this period and began to push west into Anatolia at the beginning of the 11th century.The permanent Turkish foothold in Anatolia, the Seljuk Sultanate of Rum , was established after a historic victory at the battle of Manzikert against the Byzantines in 1071.
 
So my maths say.......600BC-1071 AD=1500 years.
Your maths  ......is like Dolma
 
You are a great example of   Historical Revensionist.


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It  says foca  people what complex?An article about  a greek city and greek colonies and colonization and it doesnt mention they are greeks!
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Bulldog if you compare Dolma with History then you
 
I made the comparison to show how ridiculous your being.
 
Your argueing about the nationality of "GODS" and telling Albanians that they cannot be descendants of ancient people of those lands and that they cannot claim history of their lands.
 
 
 
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Seljuks settled in Persia during this period and began to push west into Anatolia at the beginning of the 11th century.The permanent Turkish foothold in Anatolia, the Seljuk Sultanate of Rum , was established after a historic victory at the battle of Manzikert against the Byzantines in 1071.
 
Yes but there were Turks who were in the region before, the Pechengs, Bulgars and Turkic mercenaries in the Byzantine army.
 
 
 
p.s Foca isn't a Greek city today, the article has nothing to do with nationalism, its about some old re-created boat, what exactly are you shocked with in the article, it says nothing against Greeks.
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Originally posted by Bulldog

I made the comparison to show how ridiculous your being.
 
 
I  return your cheap  insult Buldog.
Originally posted by Bulldog

Your argueing about the nationality of "GODS" and telling Albanians that they cannot be descendants of ancient people of those lands and that they cannot claim history of their lands.
 
Historical accounts please ?
 
 
Originally posted by Bulldog

Yes but there were Turks who were in the region before, the Pechengs, Bulgars and Turkic mercenaries in the Byzantine army.
  
These "merceneries" conquered the Phocea ?LOL
 
 
Originally posted by Bulldog

p.s Foca isn't a Greek city today, the article has nothing to do with nationalism, its about some old re-created boat, what exactly are you shocked with in the article, it says nothing against Greeks.
It has with the Historical revisionism that is clear you are fun
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Originally posted by akritas

Historical accounts please ?
 
Here is what the best Greek Byzantinist Peter Charanis says about Albanians:
 
The native Illyrians and Thracians of the occupied regions retired into the mountains, where they remained unnoticed till the eleventh century, when they emerged as Albanians and Vlachs.
 


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Historical accounts please ?
 
Here is what the best Greek Byzantinist Peter Charanis says about Albanians:
 
The native Illyrians and Thracians of the occupied regions retired into the mountains, where they remained unnoticed till the eleventh century, when they emerged as Albanians and Vlachs.
 
accounts not conclusions!!!!
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Even if they were illyrians which it isnt proven  though the opposite is most likely they  are not  Epirotes  because  Epirotes are and were greeks not illyrians.

Fyrom steals a name,Albania steals a name and they both want to change world history by continuing their propaganda type regime indoctrinations they were inflicted upon by totalitarian regimes that kept them in isolation.
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accounts not conclusions!!!!
 
This statement of Charanis is a conclusion.
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Even if they were illyrians which it isnt proven  though the opposite is most likely they  are not  Epirotes  because  Epirotes are and were greeks not illyrians.
 
Olvois, even more adequate Greek-American scholars like Charanis understand that Albanians are descendants of Illyrians (most likely not directly but by strong mix with coming new populations). This is mostly the problem of many arrogant Greeks who don't want to share the history and cutlture with their neighbours.
 
Fyrom steals a name,Albania steals a name and they both want to change world history by continuing their propaganda type regime indoctrinations they were inflicted upon by totalitarian regimes that kept them in isolation.
 
True, Greek method of propaganda is much more intelligent. Wink However it is still propaganda. Whoooh, I don't like this word Ouch
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True, Greek method of propaganda is much more intelligent. Wink However it is still propaganda. Whoooh, I don't like this word Ouch
One example of Greek Historical Revesionism please ?
 
Originally posted by Anton

 
Olvois, even more adequate Greek-American scholars like Charanis understand that Albanians are descendants of Illyrians (most likely not directly but by strong mix with coming new populations). This is mostly the problem of many arrogant Greeks who don't want to share the history and cutlture with their neighbours.
 
And the most known historians-archaelogists (Wilkes, Srejovic e.t.c.) have rejected with acadameic works these conclusions.
 
 


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One example of Greek Historical Revesionism please ?
 
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And the most known historians-archaelogists (Wilkes, Srejovic e.t.c.) have rejected with acadameic works these conclusions.
 
And some others -- like Maria Gimbutas supported their conclusions.
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Posts: 1460 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-May-2007 at 05:58
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One example of Greek Historical Revesionism please ?
 
when you dont have examples or arguments   you are trolling as usual Star


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And the most known historians-archaelogists (Wilkes, Srejovic e.t.c.) have rejected with acadameic works these conclusions.
 
And some others -- like Maria Gimbutas supported their conclusions.
And what is her opinion ? (with source of course)
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when you dont have examples or arguments   you are trolling as usual Star
 
You favorite arguments are "trolling", "propaganda", "nationalism", "steal history" Star
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Originally posted by akritas

when you dont have examples or arguments   you are trolling as usual Star
 
You favorite arguments are "trolling", "propaganda", "nationalism", "steal history" Star
.....facts, evidence and  sourcesSmile
 
and of course not INSULTS AND THREATS to destroy Topics  as you done in the past in this forum.
 
Continue your trolling game alone, you are lack of argyments and you are boring!!!


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And what is her opinion ?
 
For example: "So called Wisocko culture considered as slavic culture and the other local Volhynian cultures testify the fusion of slavonic population with the Thracians".
 
(with source of course)
 
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Continue your trolling game alone, you are lack of argyments and you are boring!!!
 
LOL That is axact proof of my point
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Originally posted by akritas

Continue your trolling game alone, you are lack of argyments and you are boring!!!
 
LOL That is axact proof of my point
to destroy the debates and the topics by Trolling and the mods Looking You and "admire"  you!!!!
 
 
 
 


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ok Mods are watching and will review the thread.

I wont lock it, if I dont read one more post that isn't related to the topic.
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