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    Posted: 06-Jul-2017 at 06:12
The true blood is Yeshua (& Jews (& Shem)).
Not sure what your code is here. Jewish? Popish? BI? Aryan? Atlantean? Masonic?
Except that seem to be 2 or 3 rival lines of Ben, Joe, Juda.
I.e. not sure who does Benjamin represent (and who does Joseph represent)?
BIs & Mormons have America as Manasseh.

Jose & Benj ~ WRE/Catholic/Gayropa & ERE/Orthodox/Russia? or "Rome vs Jewish"? EU & US? US & Russia? White Pope & Coptic pope? HRE & Pope/Welf? AE vs WH? AE vs Historum? "followers of jesus versus nephilim (leading families of us & world)"? Beast vs harlot? Isis vs EU/US? Rome vs Templars/Masons?

Benjamin - Paul - pope?
Benjamin - wolf - Rome / Welf?
Joseph ~ Messiah ben Joseph?
Pharaoh(s)/god(s) ~ Pope(s)/"god(s)"?
Joseph son Jacob ~ Joseph father Jesus & Joseph of Arimathea & Cartaphilus (TWJ)?
Benjamin accused of stealing cup - Templars stopped from possibly stealing ark from Ethiopia?
Touching private parts recalls Pope (Joan)? i vaguely recall some Classical match?
Laban ~ Labarum?
grail = cup = harlot Bablyon [Rome] holding cup?
Joseph = Cartaphilus ~ Cardinal (& Janus)? [or Carthage?]
grail = blood of jesus/christ  = blood of saints?



Edited by Arthur-Robin - 06-Jul-2017 at 06:34
NZ's mandatory fluoridation is not fair because it only forces it on the disadvantaged/some and not on the advantaged/everyone.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Jul-2017 at 18:42
Joseph and Benjamin were full brothers, and Ephraim and Manasseh were the sons of Joseph. These three tribes of Israel - Benjamin, Ephraim and Manasseh - are the Tribes of Rachel. Their descendants make up a single sub-group within the tribes of Israel. The leader of Israel into the promised land was a descendant of Rachel (Joshua). Most of the Judges pre-monarchy were descendants of Rachel (Ehud, Shamgar, Deborah, Gideon, Abimelech, Jair, Jephthah, Ibzan, Abdon) or of her handmaid, Bilhah (Barak and Samson). The first King of Israel (Saul) was descended from Rachel. 

Joseph and Benjamin were both Jacob/Israel's beloved sons, and held more dear than his other children. They were also his youngest sons. And yet paradoxically 'Joseph' is usually an aged man - the father of Jesus; the man of Arimathea; the wandering Jew - all meant to be very old. In a similar way Jacob blessed the younger son of Joseph (Ephraim) over his elder brother (Manasseh), making the younger more senior.   
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  Quote Arthur-Robin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Jul-2017 at 13:36
So what is the point?

Judah (Leah) {Onan Zerah Caleb Kenaz Othniel Bethlehem David "Herod" Jesus Judas TWJ}
Levi (Leah) {Moses Aaron Eli Maccabees JohnBaptist PopeJoan}
Issachar (Leah) {Tola Iscariot}
Zebulun ("Leah") {Barak? Elon Capernaum}
Dinah (Leah) {Job}
Asher ("Leah") {Serach Anna}

Ephraim/Joseph (Rachel) {Ephratah Joshua Deborah/bee/word Tola Ibzan Abdon Micah Samuel Messiah-ben-Joseph}
Joseph (Rachel) {TWJ}
Manasseh/Joseph (Rachel) {Machir Gilead Gideon Abimelech Jair Jephthah Lehi/Nephi}
Naphtali (Bilhah / "Rachel") {Barak Capernaum}
Dan (Bilhah / "Rachel") {Samson Daniel HaDani Antichrist}

Benjamin (Rachel) {Ehud Saul Mordechai Paul "MaryMagdalene" BenHur BenKenobi}
uncertain (not stated, possibly Benjamin) {Shamgar}

Are you saying that the Grail (or the Ark) is or was in Bethlehem (like Eucharistus)?



Edited by Arthur-Robin - 13-Jul-2017 at 15:54
NZ's mandatory fluoridation is not fair because it only forces it on the disadvantaged/some and not on the advantaged/everyone.
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My point is that throughout the presented history of Israel there has been an under-emphasised conflict between the Tribes of Rachel and the Tribes of Leah. Notice in your list the noticeable absence of representatives from the Tribes of Reuben and Simeon - the two eldest children of Jacob. Throughout the narratives of the Old Testament it is nearly always a younger child who is the chosen one to succeed (Seth, Shem, Heber, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, etc...). Levi and Judah (the two younger of Leah's first birth period - and there is some theory that she only had these four sons; the other two, and the handmaid births, being later inventions to assimilate non-Hebrew tribes into the clan) were chosen by Jacob's god (the Elohim) to be the spiritual and temporal leaders of Israel. But Rachel's sons were the truly youngest, and possessed Rachel's gods (the Teraphim). Plus Benjamin's birth could be seen as extra special (through the circumstances I have already noted) in uniting together the gods of Rachel with the gods of Jacob.

As to the the 'teraphim', they were handed down to the tribes of Rachel, probably the Tribe of Benjamin. In the Book of Judges a new teraphim was created within the Tribe of Ephraim (Rachel), but this was taken away by the Tribe of Dan (Rachel's handmaid), who kept it until the Captivity. Rachel's original teraphim might have been handed down through the Tribe of Benjamin to King Saul, who passed it to his daughter when she married David from the Tribe of Judah (and note that she was the youngest daughter of Saul, whilst David was the youngest son of Jesse). The teraphim were used to help David escape from Saul's assassins. As I suggested, it was possibly a human skull, which explains the ruse used by David's wife.

The grail is not the Ark. The Ark is Elohim. The Grail is Teraphim. Elohim is male (Jacob, Moses, David, Jesus). Teraphim is female (Rachel, Micah's mother, Michal the wife of David, Mary Magdalene). 
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  Quote Lee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Oct-2017 at 12:57
The name-sake of the Phoenicians,  that is 'Pheonix  ,   the bird represents the Snow of the Lebanese Mountains, they melt and feed the rivers/stream and they regenerate in the winter,  so a cycle,  that is the origin of the Phoenix

There is a river in Lebanon called River Abraham ,  the Snow melts but is mixes with the Red-clay and turns the river red,    alternatively Perseus slays Cetus and it's blood drips into the river, turning it red,    Cetus is the name of the Whale that swallowed  Jonah (white-dove) and spat it out upon the dry land ,  same as Noah ejecting a White-dove that found the dry-land .      The 'Ark of Noah, a Vessel
or a Cup , or a Grail of sort,   same as Pandora's Box or Moses/Perseus chest,   that was released into the River.

The narratives in the Bible  simply recycle the same archetypal theme of the Phoenix. 

Edited by Lee - 03-Oct-2017 at 13:02
Hope rises like a Phoenix
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