Mongol threat

the Abbasid Caliphat at that time was dying and didnt controle more than what is Iraq today and the Government was corupted and they didnt care about the people and the army and the rest of the Islamic areas are fragments of Arab and Turk stats fighting each other for power

so it was a great chance for the mongols to destroy them. also when the mongols lost against the Memluks they were not at their hight of power and Hulago didnt fight with them

some historians say that the Library of Bagdad was the largest and it contained the most improtant books about science and the Mongols threw all that in the river and they killed almost all the people in Bagdad. it is a Fact that the river stayed colored from the ink for two weeks.

we use this as a jok when someone asks why now arabs are weak and not advanced like the Westerners  we answer thats becouse the Mongols destroyed all the Knowledge we had in the books of Bagdad's library and threw them in the river.

You guys really need to get over it and start moving forward.

I believe it was not accident, as Atila the Hun King appeared and the gain of power by  fundamentalist Catholics, until then the people had dealt easy with religion, but after the catastrophe and all the destruction wich was caused through Atila, the church told them that they had been punished by God for their decadence. That was the beging of the medivial age. The psychological demage was huger.

The same story in the muslim world, there was a kind renaissance, intellectuals read greek and roman documents. Intelectuals and Reformers got more influence towards the Fundamentalists. But then the Mongols Attacked and destroyed much more then Atilla did, then the crusaders attacked... That was the reason why reformers last the dispute against the Fundamentalists.

Do you know that Marco Polo wrote in his book that he had travelled as an Agent of the Pope to convince the Mongols to attack the Muslims.

He wrote a book about his Voyages, where he claimed that he was sent by the Vatican, unfortunatelly I was not able found this article.

But I have some Facts from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Polo

The Polo family had explorers other than Marco. His father Niccol� (also Nicol� in Venetian) and his uncle Maffeo (also Maffio) were prosperous merchants in the East trade. The two merchants set out to Asia in 1255, reached China in 1266, arriving at Khanbaliq near Peking. They returned from China as Kublai Khan's envoys with a letter for the Pope asking to be sent educated people to teach in his empire, to inform the Mongols about their way of life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genghis_Khan

At this point (1219) Genghis decided to extend Mongol dominions into the Muslim world. The Mongol horde methodically marched through Khwarizm's main cities (Bukhara, Samarkand, and Balkh), and the shah, Muhammad, prepared to battle them... 

Considering that the crusades took place in the same Time could this be true.

LOL

Seriously, the Polo family had a letter written to the "Great Khan" (Khubilai) by the Pope.

i agree  Not funny

not funny at all

but i dont think that that "letter" was the main reason for what happened, i think the mongols would attack either way they just attack everything they can reach and the muslims kingdoms were weak and underestimated the mongol power

i think that period was the lowest period of for the muslims, specialy Arabs that because after the mongols there was no such kingdome ruled by Arabs for the next hunderds of years.

it was the begining of Turks and Memluks. well and the early Moguls of india since they are originally Turks of persia.

or am i wrong?

Originally posted by El_Bandito Arabuud=Shunaliin Tulamuud

what?