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    Posted: 17-Feb-2007 at 01:52
Saab JAS 39 "Gripen"
 
Eurofighter Typhoon
 
F-22 Raptor
 
Dassault Rafale
 
Chengdu J-10
 
MiG 1.44/1.42
 
Sukhoi Su-47 Berkut
 
F-35 Lightning II
 
 


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There are new productions coming out. I personally am into the stealth planes... like the fighters shown in the movie, "Stealth". The AI fighter is so cool!
     
   
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I think the Su-47 is possibly the most maneuverable aircraft on the planet right now, as well as on of the most breathtakingly beautiful. Look at this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP2p72ANEZA

The canard wings give it a sort of bird of prey look. Especially when it curves up as it "hovers" almost like an eagle about to land after a flight. Its amazing how slow it can go just by tilting and if you notice when it first took off in less than 3 seconds it had already made a 90 degree tilt flying straight up to the sun!
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  1. The raptor by a long stretch. Though right now you would have to be the US to source and afford it. This is one generation ahead of the rest. Apparently they wont sell us this plane and we are close alliesOuch
  2. Eurofighter is advanced last generations fighter, can fight well and swing between roles.While holding its own against the flanker, it needs some of the latest tech enhancements to make it really effective.
  3. I read that the rafeale is great to fly matched up favorably with the f15  the in the ROK competition. Also read that it not as powerful as the Eurofighter but not as light as the gripen, meaning that it fall between stools in (other than Frances) air forces needs.
  4. Gripen is like a light single engine Eurofighter, different class of fighter. I think its the only 'other' western light fighter than the F16
  5. F-35; same generation as the raptor, is great at close support and strike which is what its designed for, cant win a dogfight against any other advanced planes, so it works in a high-low mix.
  6. what do we really know about the chengdu? thats a whole other thread.
  7. the Russian planes quoted are just experiments
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True, a Raptor can use its stealth to own a Eurofighter but if the Eurofighter was operating in the coverage area of a stealth-detecting radar & knew the position of the Raptor things would be different.
 
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The raptor has alot more advantages then stealth on the eurofighter. The russian aircraft look like the closest rivals but until they are fielded they really cant be considered, though they look pretty in airshows. Remember alot of these aircraft are around 5 years out of serious production and still in testing phase.
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Eurofighter 2000

General characteristics

  • Crew: 1 or 2
  • Length: 15.96 m (52 ft 5 in)
  • Wingspan: 10.95 m (35 ft 11 in)
  • Height: 5.28 m (17 ft 4 in)
  • Wing area: 50 m (540 ft)
  • Empty weight: 11 000 kg (24,250 lb)
  • Loaded weight: 15 550 kg (34,280 lb)
  • Max takeoff weight: 23 500 kg (51,809 lb)
  • Powerplant: 2 Eurojet EJ200 afterburning turbofans, 60 kN dry; 90 kN with afterburner (13,500 lbf; 20,250 lbf) each

 

Performance

 

 

F-22 Raptor

General characteristics

 

Performance

 
 
Stealth aside the Raptor is faster and more maneuverable than E-2000, and that doesn't consider the F-22s formidable electronic warfare capability. 
 
As for the Russian fighters on the list I'd say they are veritable no counts, neither the Mig 1.42 or the Su-47 will ever be built.  The reasons?  Simple these fighters would have extremely high price tags and still be markedly inferior to the F-22, which explains why the Kremlin is putting its money on this little beauty.
 
 
 
Sorry fellas but the Su-47 is for Air Shows, this jet is for combat.


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F-22 Raptor all the way! It is coming in to service soon, and will take down everything it takes on! 
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Originally posted by Laelius

As for the Russian fighters on the list I'd say they are veritable no counts, neither the Mig 1.42 or the Su-47 will ever be built.  The reasons?  Simple these fighters would have extremely high price tags and still be markedly inferior to the F-22, which explains why the Kremlin is putting its money on this little beauty.
 
 
 
Sorry fellas but the Su-47 is for Air Shows, this jet is for combat.


I dont think they'll have the money to make the Raptorski either. The funding needed is definitely not there. Perhaps Russias recent political tough stance has side issues to open up the flood gates to sell their hardware to anyone that can buy it.
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I dont think they have the money either, but joint development with either the indians (like the brahmos) or maybe the chinese might be a option.
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I would go for the Eurofighter (with full weapons capability). May not match the Raptor in air combat, but beats it for all round air-to-ground capabilities, and a little cheaper. The Gripen is good for air-forces on a tight budget.

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Originally posted by Adalwolf

F-22 Raptor all the way! It is coming in to service soon, and will take down everything it takes on! 

I do believe they already are:

"As of late 2004, 51 Raptors were in service, with 22 more ordered under fiscal year  2004 funding"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-22_Raptor


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I have to say that F-22 is the best looking and it has the capability to fight nearly all aircrafts today. Though I have to say that the Su-47 is like the future generation of aircrafts with its forward swap wings that makes it more maneuverable than most aircrafts. So I have say that the F-22 and the Su-27 is the best Smile

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f-22 and Typhoon are good.Which one is the best,i don't know now and can't know to look at their features on paper,only.Rafale is not good as much as typhoon?
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would go for the Eurofighter (with full weapons capability). May not match the Raptor in air combat, but beats it for all round air-to-ground capabilities, and a little cheaper. The Gripen is good for air-forces on a tight budget.
 
No it doesn't the F-22 is far and away more survivable on account that its both stealth and in possession of a far stronger air frame. 
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Sukhoi 47 - It has internal weapons place - It should be a stealth

 

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The SU-47 has a lot of potential if all goes to plan in the testing period. The Russians have just further funded the development process of the SU-47. Once complete, it should definitely be a excellent aircraft, stealth an added bonus. Thumbs%20Up
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Sukhoi 47 - It has internal weapons place - It should be a stealth
Internal weapons isn't what makes it stealth. Though it is needed for it to be steath. Honestly, just looking at the shape it doesn't even look like it'll be stealth, there are a number of factors that go into being stealth. The most important is the secrete paint that the US uses. From what I understand the paint has to be redone regularly and takes quite a few coats of it.
 


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Well i dont know why but  Sukhoi Su-47 Berkut sounds good to meWink 
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Well, Internal weapon is one of the reasons that US guys are worried its being stealth. Remember that US way is not the only way of hiding yourself from Radar. If u know S 400 - then u should know that US paint won't help to change the destiny
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