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    Posted: 07-Jan-2005 at 00:32

Seljuk Mausoleum (Kumbet)

Typical Armenian Church

The roof part of Armenian Churches are also called Kempet. Strange, but Striking similarities no? Comments?

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i think it is a name for that shape of roofs

doesn't represent any religion meaning

 
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That is not Kumbet but trbe, read here: http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?tocId=9073814

Turkish Kumbet, Armenian Kempet, Arabic Jonbadh and Modern Persian Gonbad come from old Persian Gumbat which means "Dome".

You can see a Persian type of dome in this Armenian Cathedral:


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Arabic is Qubah

 Jonbadh  <--- this is not arabic ( as far as i know )
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I think Jonbadh is just arabicized version of Gombad but it is possible that Qubah has also this root.
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Cyrus are you sure that the Cathedral you showed me was constructed by Armenians? Couldn't it be a mosque converted to a church? It's the first time I see an Armenian church like this...

  
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It was built as a church about 300 years ago, the Armenian inscription of this Cathedral says the Armenian calendar years of 1104 and 1113 (1692 and 1701 A.D.) as those of the start and completion of the construction.

I think the Persian architecture has made it as one of the most beautiful churches in the world, don't you think so?
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Posts: 488 		  Quote Artaxiad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Jan-2005 at 18:55

Yes, it does look really good. Especially the interior part of the dome.

Here's a Persian mosque from Yerevan.

 
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It has a very Persian style, when was it built? It looks like a safavid mosque, there is a Kabud (Blue) mosque in Tabriz too.

There are also many Armenian churches with Armenian architecture in Iran, some of them will be registered in the Unesco: http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=550
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Here's some information about that Mosque.

The largest mosque of Yerevan and only one still preserved, the Gyoy or Gok-Jami, (gok means "sky-blue" in Turkish) was built in AH 1179 or AD 1765/6 by the command of local ruler Hussein Ali-Khan to be the main Friday mosque. The mosque portal and minaret were decorated with fine tile work. The central court had a fountain, with cells and other auxiliary building around it, and stately elm trees. There was an adjoining hamam and school.  [It is located in the courtyard of the building across Mashtots Ave from the Pag Shuka, or covered market.]

 In the Middle Ages, the Persians recaptured Yerevan and the shah rebuilt this structure as a Persian mosque, adding the arched courtyard and madrasah (school for students of the Koran).After the Russian revolution, the mosque functioned as the city museum of Yerevan. When the Russians took Yerevan, the mosque served as a Russian Orthodox church, then fell into ruin during soviet rule. It was carefully rebuilt by Iranian benefactors during the past four years.

It is now used as a cultural centre. I don't think muslims worship there because of problems with neighbouring Azerbaijan.

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And here's Agia Sophia, so that we can all see the real thing! All mosques were inspired by it's arcitecture when the Muslims came into contact with the Byzantines. It's no accident that Greek Orthodox churches and mosques look alike.

 

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/buildingbig/wonder/structure/hagia_s ophia.html



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And it is two thousands years old Sarvestan:

And this one is the Palace of Ardeshir (Founder of Sassanid Empire) at Firuzabad:


It is a wonder to see this dome still standing after eighteen centuries.

 
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