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    Posted: 05-Jan-2007 at 14:36

Apocalypto

It is based on the Mayans.
The mass killing was carried out by the Aztecs 400 yrs later.
The conquistidors actually didnt arrive in the era of the Mayans.
(^^I gleaned the above from a radio programme on the movie)
 
What innacuracies could you find?. BEFORE SOMEBODY REMINDS ME, I KNOW IT IS ENTERTAINMENT(HOLLYWOOD).
 
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Actually, by the time the conquistadors arrived in Yucatan, the Mayas, while way past the peak of their power, still had cities and conducted ritual sacrifices. The last Maya kingdom didn't fall until 1697! Overall, I found the movie surprisingly historically accurate (though not necessarily unbiased).
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Ok the BBC 3 radio programme was on the 19th of dec 06, i had hoped to post the original link, but seems they have a policy of archivng material for only upto 7 days. However i found this discussion.
 

The experts said they thought, during much of the movie, it was set sometime between A.D. 300 and 900 until a closing scene places it closer to the early 1500s.

It was a postmodern collage, Little said. It was a hodgepodge.

Carmack grew more and more steamed in his post-screening analysis. In particular, he seethed over the portrayals of human sacrifices and other spectacles, which he said more closely resembled practices used by the Aztecs or even the ancient Romans.

The sadism that permeates the movie was simply not part of the culture, the experts said. Yes, the Mayas practiced human sacrifice, but in ways that were highly ritualized and usually involved a single victim. Not pretty, to be sure, but a far cry from the slaughterhouse of mass sacrifice depicted in Apocalypto a virtual conga line of the soon-to-be headless, followed by desecration of their bodies.

The body count was high, and the treatment of the dead cavalier, all three anthropologists said.

The Mayas, an agricultural society, also would not have had an open field of rotting corpses situated near their crops.

Modern-day descendants of the Mayas would be totally disgusted by this film, Carmack said. It was all invented. The ritual was a disgusting perversion of human sacrifices among the Mayas.

Edgar Martin del Campo, a newly arrived faculty member who begins teaching at SUNY Albany in January, talked about religious glitches and other flaws. Examples: Mayas would not have been awed by an eclipse as they were in the film they were, in fact, early astronomers. Villagers would not have been dumbstruck by a city; most lived in or around metropolises. The costumes were contrived.

Give the film this, the scholars said: Gibson was brave enough to make the movie in the Yucatec language. But just as the use of Yucatec isn't exactly a guarantee of boffo box office, the historical inaccuracies of Gibson's latest will zoom right by the average viewer. The gore will not.

Gibson's last subtitled period piece, 2004's The Passion of the Christ, was an international hit. Even so, that graphic drama drew criticism similar to that already levied against Apocalypto, angering many scholars and Jewish leaders for its depiction of Christ's final hours.

The Passion was a cultural phenomenon that sparked mainstream debate over the Gospels and the history of anti-Semitism, among other topics. It's doubtful the history behind Apocalypto will prompt widespread research by moviegoers most of whom will be in search of nothing more than two hours of action. Regardless, the experts will be howling. It will be up to you whether to listen.

The problem is when you misrepresent (a subject to) somebody, they don't always seek out the correct version of things, Little said. They're going to accept that as reality. So why would they go search out what it really is?

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20061212/news_1c12mel.html
 
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+ the opening and the ending give a false impression.
 
The opening was:
"No great civilisation has ever been conquered without having first destroyed itself from within. This was certainly true of the Mayas."

The ending was the conquistadors with bible in hand.

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These so-called anthropologists are intoxicated by political-correctness
 
 
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