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    Posted: 21-Dec-2006 at 23:11
Are we allowed posting & discussing examples of ancient (authentic) erotic art if it's not too explicit?
 
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  Quote Hellios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-Dec-2006 at 23:27
Example:
 
These girls are visiting a brothel in the ancient city of Pompeii:
 
 
 
On the walls are frescoes like this:
 


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Well photoraphy was a little underdevloped in 70 AD. So I seriusly doubt you'll have screen shots like, "Naughty from naples", "Busty Britannia", "Amazing Arabian".
 
 
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  Quote Aelfgifu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Dec-2006 at 04:53
Sparten, you'd be amazed by how explicit it gets. I've seen acient Greek vases in museums that can compete with the whole of the upper shelf magazine range. I could post you examples, but like Hellios I wonder if it would be allowed as it is very much not suitable for kids....
 
And not only the ancients had a dirty mind: there are also some pretty unbelievable things in stonework on a large number of medieval cathedrals in Europe....

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Dec-2006 at 09:30

I am sure they had dirty minds, how else you could get them to repopulate the planet?Wink And I saw some stuff in Athen's musumes which well would certainly qualify as porno (now and then). My point was simply that the medium for captuting such images was a bit underdevloped. In other words, nom photography and realistic true to life images did not really come in any numbers till the 1500's.

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  Quote Aelfgifu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Dec-2006 at 10:52

Check this:

first sex movie ever... (don't worry suitable for minors too...funny, not shockingWink)
 

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  Quote Decebal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Dec-2006 at 11:49

I think that certainly Indian erotic art (a good example is Chola art from the 9th to the 12th centuries AD), deserves a mention. Mostly sculpture, but also painting, are explicit to say the least. However, they were not pornographic, but rather religious in nature, as they believed sex to be a way to celebrate nature and God.

Also, Japan has a long tradition of erotic art. Most of the erotic art we have is from the Edo period (1642-1859). It is also unique in depicting many scenes of rape.

Unfortunately, there are not too many Internet resources on this subject, as it is still rather taboo.

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  Quote Hellios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Dec-2006 at 10:37
Silver coin from Thasos, Greece, circa 500-463 BC.  A man carries off a protesting woman, who wears a chiton.  Reverse: quadripartite incuse square.
 
 
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Ah the good old days. When guys like me could actually get cooperation from the ladies.

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  Quote xi_tujue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Dec-2006 at 16:00
Originally posted by Aelfgifu

Check this:

first sex movie ever... (don't worry suitable for minors too...funny, not shockingWink)
 

Clap hehe I liked it verry funny (but i'm kinda bumed out didn't see all of the movieLOL)



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  Quote Reginmund Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Jan-2007 at 17:07
You should check out the Greek vases that show pederasty (the custom of older men having sexual relationships with boys) in action. The usual motive is a big guy with a beard fondling the jewels of a beardless youth.

Example 1

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  Quote Ikki Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Jan-2007 at 17:37
Originally posted by Reginmund

Example 1

wow shocking!! I knew about this about the ancient greeks and their artistic works but never ever saw it


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  Quote Hellios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-Jan-2007 at 19:21
Originally posted by Reginmund

You should check out the Greek vases that show pederasty (the custom of older men having sexual relationships with boys) in action. The usual motive is a big guy with a beard fondling the jewels of a beardless youth.
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wow shocking!! I knew about this about the ancient greeks and their artistic works but never ever saw it
 
Adding to your ancient gay art Reginmund:
 
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  Quote Aelfgifu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Jan-2007 at 03:58
That Japanese one is not gay Hellios... Surely you can see the difference? Tongue

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  Quote Yiannis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Jan-2007 at 05:22
Originally posted by Reginmund

You should check out the Greek vases that show pederasty (the custom of older men having sexual relationships with boys) in action. The usual motive is a big guy with a beard fondling the jewels of a beardless youth.

 
This one is Zeus seducing Ganymedes. It's a mythological scene.
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  Quote Hellios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Jan-2007 at 05:45
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That Japanese one is not gay Hellios... Surely you can see the difference? Tongue 
 
Isn't it 2 women?
 
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Hm, it might be... Hard to tell what the right one is... perhaps you are right. Wink

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  Quote Reginmund Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Jan-2007 at 16:21
Two women, yes, you can tell it by the way their hair is done. As far as I know it has never been fashionable for Japanese men to wear their hair like that, so I think we're on safe ground.

As for the Egyptian one, I don't think it's explicit enough to be interepreted as homosexual; it merely shows two men facing each other.
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  Quote Hellios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-Jan-2007 at 21:40
Originally posted by Reginmund

As for the Egyptian one, I don't think it's explicit enough to be interepreted as homosexual; it merely shows two men facing each other.
 
The right man's right arm is around the left man.  See the fingers over the left man's right shoulder.
The left man's left hand is holding the right man's left forearm.
The lips kinda close.  Noses touching I think, not sure, you might be right!
 
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  Quote Reginmund Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18-Jan-2007 at 13:00
Still, hugging and kissing is and has been considered an appropriate greeting gesture between males in many cultures. Not, however, in my own, nor in yours I expect, Hellios, so I think our cultural background more than anything else leads us to think of homosexuality.
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