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Kevin Rudd, 49, former Shadow foreign minister of Australia, has just been elected as ALP(Australia Labor Party)'s new leader on 4th of December.

 
He is known as an "expert on China", in which hes fluent in Mandarin, he majored in Chinese history, philosophy and literature.
He became interested in Chinese culture after his mum gave him a book on Chinese archaeology when he was 10.
 
As a consequence of this "love affair" with "everything Chinese", Kevin Rudd gave himself a Chinese name based on his Christian name, 陆克文 Lu KeWen, or KeWen Lu, thus Kevin Rudd.
 
As the leader of ALP, he will be running for prime minister of Australia in the next federal election. With this background of him, one may anticipate Australia's further strengthening ties with China(PRC) in the future.
 
The following are some of his political concept and positions regarding Australia's relation with China and with the region.
 

SPEECH BY MR KEVIN M RUDD MP
SHADOW MINISTER FOR FOREIGN AFFAIRS

WEDNESDAY 6 FEBRUARY 2001

Distinguished Guests

Citizens (and Non-Citizens) of the Commonwealth

Tonight I would like to talk about three things.

I抎 like to talk about Australia抯 engagement of Asia.

I would like to talk about Gough抯 contribution to that engagement over half a century.

And I would like to talk about the future of that engagement ­ and, more broadly, the future of our international engagement.

But to begin at the very beginning and, in the tradition of the American revival, with a word or two of personal testimony, about the impact which our guests of honour have had on an entire generation of Australians ­ including this one.

My own intellectual odyssey and personal engagement with China and the region more broadly began with Gough.

As a kid growing up in the Queensland Country under the occasionally benign, but more often malign, Bjelke-Peterson dictatorship of the 1970抯, it was Gough who opened this person抯 eyes to the world beyond ­ by which I mean a world not just beyond the Tweed, radical though that was at the time as the Tweed, in those days, constituted our very own Mason Dixon line. But the region beyond our shores, a region whose importance to Australia lay in its own terms, not in terms of some artificial construct placed on it as an object of alliance or empire. An importance from the proximity of its geography, the longevity of its history, the dynamism of its economy and the depth of its society.

Somewhere in the archives of the Department of Foreign Affairs lies a starry eyed letter from an equally starry eyed fourteen year old from deep within the Queensland veldt asking the Department抯 Minister how one went about becoming an Australian diplomat. The news had not reached Queensland in those days, or at least my part of it, that Gough in addition to being Prime Minister of the Commonwealth, was also, for a season its Foreign Minister. So back the letter came, signed by the great man himself, (I held it up to the light each morning to make sure of that) advising that is was probably a good thing that I went to University first and, having graduated, that I then write a letter of application.

And being the good little Queenslander that I was, with a natural (some would say pre-programmed) predisposition to respond to authority, that is what I did.

When my mother discovered the letter (mothers in those days, unlike the present, seemed to have an untrammelled right of interception of adolescent correspondence), consternation broke out in the household. Mum was a swinging voter. Sometimes she voted Country Party. Other times DLP. And the thought of her son receiving correspondence from Australia抯 Socialist in Chief was a little too much to bear.

I watched with wide eyes on the flickering tube Gough and Margaret embark on their triumphal march to China in 1973. I read every word about who Gough met and what was said. His meeting with Zhou Enlai and Mao Zedong.

So some years later, consistent with the instructions I had received from Australia抯 Chief Socialist, I fled Queensland, gained entry to the Australian National University in Canberra, where I studied Chinese Language and History ­ being by the way, the first of my family to attend University. My family having been in this country since 1790, and my own University education made possible because of the Whitlam revolution in higher education.

And occasionally, just occasionally, as I wandered beneath the gums between the Menzies Library and the Coombes Building at the ANU, clutching my character cards, muttering deep incantations to myself as I tried to commit this most beautiful language to memory, occasionally I would see the great man himself, post dismissal and post politics, striding purposefully about his new professional home in the Research School of Pacific and Asian Studies where he was a visiting fellow.

Here endeth the testimony, which has been a particularly long-winded way of my simply saying, 揟hank You Gough?

And as a footnote, my mother these last three elections has voted Labor, proving that redemption is possible for us all.

I said I would talk about Australia抯 engagement of Asia. Of course, it is a misnomer in the first place to refer to anything called 揂sia?because no such homogeneous entity exists. What, therefore, does being engaged with Asia mean? Asia itself is primarily a term of geographical convenience used to describe a range of countries whose internal diversity is invariably greater than their shared commonality. 揂sia? for example, is home to six of the world抯 great religions (Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, Confucianism and Shinto) compared to Europe抯 two (Christianity and Judaism). Asian linguistic diversity is enormous compared with that of the Germanic and Romance languages of Europe and the broader family of Indo-European languages to which they belong. In this context, it would reflect our sophistication as a nation if the next generation of Australians were at least capable of accurately differentiating the cultures of the region rather than perpetuating the mythology of a homogeneous 揂sia?to our north populated by a homogeneous race of 揂sians? The crudity of these perceptions is itself an impediment to developing a productive understanding of the reality of regional diversity.

Although Australian attitudes to Asia have changed significantly over the 200 years of European settlement, Asia, in the Australian mind of the late twentieth century, had become a complex collage of disparate and, at times, conflicting images. There is no single, simple prism through which Australians perceive Asia. There are, of course, many prisms ­ the products of a patchwork of perceptions formed and fashioned as much by historical experience as by profound ignorance.

Australia抯 historical engagement with Asia did not begin well. In the mind of the pre-Federation Australian colonies, the peoples of the region were regarded with a combination of xenophobia at home and paternalism abroad. Unbridled racial hostility towards Chinese on the Victorian goldfields, legitimised by the equally unbridled white supremacism of publications such as the Bulletin, did much to cause early Australian colonists to view 揂sia?with profound suspicion. 揂sians?were seen as the proper province of either missionaries or military diplomacy ­ a fitting field of endeavour for the London Missionary Society in partnership with the Royal Navy. Australians, at best, became bit players in these grander schemes of empire. Missionaries were despatched from Melbourne to help covert the Chinese hordes, just as gunboats were sent from Sydney and Adelaide to Tianjin to help keep these same heathens under control for the benefit of the imperial powers. There was not a separate Australian view of Asia. Nor, given the circumstances of time, could we perhaps reasonably have expected one.

With the dawn of the twentieth century, xenophobia and paternalism yielded to strategic paranoia. Asia was no longer seen exclusively as a large untilled field of mission ripe for the harvest of souls. It came instead to be seen as a source of strategic threat to the continuation of Western imperial presence in the region in general and of the security of the Anglo-Celtic occupation of Australia in particular.

The fall of Saigon in 1975 marked the beginning of a new period of Australian perceptions of Asia; the lens through which we observed the region changed from strategic instability to one of economic opportunity. The creation of the Association of South-East Asian Nations (ASEAN), the rapid development of the Newly Industrialised Countries of North-East Asia, economic liberalisation in China, and the creation of APEC transformed the Australian paradigm of Asia into one of economic growth, exports and investment.

We are, however, now entering a fourth phase of our engagement with Asia and, if any of you out there are historical determinists and are of the view that history is a matter of linear progression, the events of the last several years in this country have demonstrated that this is not the case. Hansonism at home and the Howard Doctrine abroad. Whatever consensus we once had on the project of our national engagement with the region is now in part unravelling.

There is now in this country a battle for ideas between those of us who support sustained and comprehensive engagement against those engaged in the business of incremental dis-engagement. And not just dis-engagement from our region. But a broader dis-engagement from the world ­ and from much of the institutional architecture that has developed over the last 50 years to govern the world.

There are those that argue that regional engagement is not as simple a proposition as it once was. The Asian Financial Crisis post 1997. The political transformation of Indonesia and, as a consequence, of East Timor. And now, since 2001, the war against Terrorism. All these factors, to para-phrase a commentary written recently by our Foreign Minister, making the region an infinitely more complex place than it once was ­ and demanding therefore a more textured response than we have had in the past.

I have news for Alexander. The region has always been a complex place. It was even complex in Gough抯 time as well. Fresh complexity does not, of itself, exonerate inertia or complicity in the politics of dis-engagement. And by and large, our partners in the region have now become quite good at deciphering the code language of Australian domestic politics and they tend to spot dis-engagement when they see it. And that is what we抳e seen in recent years ­ be it by accident, design or, even more disturbingly, plain dis-interest. The reality is probably a disconcerting cocktail of all the above.

My simple proposition is this. For this nation of 19 million in a region of 3.5 billion, the logic of comprehensive engagement is inescapable. The view that you hear in some quarters that globalisation has somehow rendered Asia redundant to the Australian national interest is absurd. No one disputes the importance of North America. No one disputes the importance of Europe. Nor should anyone dispute the fact that nearly 60% of our exports still go to Asia; more than a million jobs in this economy depend on our exports to Asia and our security continues to be inextricably linked to Asia ­ as it has been since 1941.

The engagement debate continues to rage ­ in fits and starts. And it will do so for sometime yet. In that debate, it is critical that women and men of intellect, commitment and goodwill participate so that the project of comprehensive engagement begun in the Whitlam years can prevail. And become, once again, entrenched as the bipartisan consensus.

This leads me to the second point I said I would address this evening: namely, Gough抯 historical contribution to the cause of engagement, and what the character of that contribution, taken in the context of the times, has to say to us today.

A prophet is never welcome in his own land.

That certainly was the case with our guest of honour this evening.

When, in the 1950抯 and 1960抯, he led the debate within our own party to repudiate White Australia; when he led the intellectual debate against the prevailing foreign policy orthodoxy (otherwise called the Domino Theory); where he led the debate for Australia抯 diplomatic recognition of the People抯 Republic of China; and where he led the broader debate in support of comprehensive regional engagement ­ the common feature of all the above is that Gough took risks.

In the politics of the 1950抯 and 1960抯, this was not necessarily the way to win friends and influence people ­ within one抯 own party, let alone the country at large. The political culture at the time was a cocktail of 搑eds under beds? 搕he yellow peril? a protected, inward looking economy spawned under the policy architecture of McEwanism, and a social conservatism in which BA Santamaria rejoiced.

The message of Whitlam in the midst of all this was that he saw the future - and did not resile from meeting it head on.

It was not all Camelot. There were failures. There were frustrations. And there were compromises. There always are. Such is the nature of politics. Gough himself, as Margaret has often concurred, is fallible, capable of human error - albeit rarely.

But to take one example, to address the Parliament, as he did in 1954, in the midst of the McCarthyism of the time, and argue the case for the diplomatic recognition of the People抯 Republic of China, took some courage.

He saw the future and did not resile from meeting it head on. He showed us that, in setting in foreign policy agendas, like domestic policy agendas, he who dares wins.

Which brings me to my final point this evening: where to from here in our great project of regional engagement?

I believe that as we craft a new vision for Australia, we must be clear in our purpose and resolute in our prosecution of that purpose.

What are the ingredients of this vision? They are, I think, simply these:

Together, as Australians, we must build:

  • A secure Australia;
  • A competitive Australia; and
  • A compassionate Australia.

A secure Australia. A competitive Australia. And a compassionate Australia.

The first responsibility of any nation state is to guarantee the security of its citizens. Not only must they be free of classical military threat, so too they must be free from the new threats to our security ­ terrorism, narcotics and the various elements of what the literature generally describes as so-called 搒oft security?

However, if the events of September 11 demonstrate one thing and one thing alone, soft security is now hard security and what the nation now requires is a new, integrated and total approach to security policy which responds comprehensively to the new environment. The Swedes traditionally have called this 搕otal defence? In the new environment, we would do well to adopt that model to our new circumstances.

A secure Australia, therefore, means doing new things well. It is also about doing old things better. Old things like having decent relations with our neighbours and the region at large. It remains, I think, a fairly basic axiom that if we have good relations with our neighbours and the region, our security is enhanced. If our relations are poor, our security is impaired. There is no particular rocket science in this. But when we take this message to the people, a secure Australia means an Australia not just with a robust defence but also an Australia comprehensively engaged in the neighbourhood of which we are part.

In addition to a secure Australia, Australians also want a competitive Australia.

Protectionism is anathema to this nation抯 long term economic interest.

It is also anathema to the interest of the developing world.

But a competitive Australia is not simply about the size of the tariff wall - reduced, as it has been, by successive Labor Governments since Whitlam.

It is also about having a world class education system, a world class training system, world class universities, world class research institutes, world class technologies in ICT and biotechnology.

And to do this requires leadership. It requires vision. And none of this means Government simply vacating the field, as appears to be the current orthodoxy, waiting in vain for Adam Smith抯 invisible hand to do its work.

What the neo-Liberals often forget is that any proper reading of Smith renders education as a public good ­ not a private market.

And what of the third dimension of our national vision. A secure Australia. A competitive Australia. And a compassionate Australia.

There are some in this country who seem to believe these are mutually exclusive propositions. That is, if you make this country secure, that if you make it competitive, that somehow, by some inexplicable mathematical process, we must diminish its compassion.

I do not hold that view.

I believe Australians are an intrinsically compassionate people. Look at the response to bush fires, to flood and to drought. Australians, in our historical experience and certainly in my living experience, respond with open hearts when they see human need ­ irrespective of whether that need is at home or abroad.

I believe that, as a people and as individuals, we are diminished if we ignore the sufferings of other human beings.

In fact, we are not fully human unless we engage that suffering. Be it in Afghanistan, in refugee camps in Pakistan and Iran, the rolling famine in North Korea or the appalling underdevelopment that is Africa.

In doing so, we must be regionally engaged. We must be globally engaged. We must honour our global obligations. And that means our international treaty obligations as well. Not only is it right that we do so. It is also in our self-interest that we do so because we ourselves depend on the international system.

I say again that I believe Australians are intrinsically a compassionate lot. I believe it is the job of leadership to make us proud of that compassion. Not to despise it. Not to demean it. And not to appeal to nor to appease the darker forces also at work in our human nature.

A secure Australia. A competitive Australia. A compassionate Australia.

As a nation, we can walk and chew gum at the same time. We can manage all three. Other countries do so. So can we.

Of course none of this is easy. All of this requires leadership. Leadership from all of us. Leadership of the type demonstrated by Gough a generation ago.

And that is the task to which we, on our side of the shop, are now committed.

I note with sadness Gough抯 concluding remarks. He said 搕his is a period in our nation抯 affairs where I am less confident than any time in the past 30 years that Australia is progressing purposefully towards the objective of Australian engagement with Asia?

Unfortunately he is perfectly right about our present.

Our challenge, as the generation that follows him, is to prove him wrong about our future.

Gough, Margaret - the Great Helmsmen (or should I say Helmspersons) of the nation. We, the Nation, salute you.

(Kevin Rudd 06/02/02)

http://www.asialink.unimelb.edu.au/cpp/dunlop2001lect/krudd0602.html


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Understanding on the issue of "Taiwan Crisis"

Kevin Rudd

Sunday, 18 July  2004 

Presenter: Geraldine Doogue

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Shadow Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd has just returned from a visit to China, very concerned about the deteriorating relationship between China and Taiwan.

Geraldine Doogue:
Hi there, welcome to Sunday Profile which tonight digs deep into the Chinese mind-set with long-term China-watcher and fan Kevin Rudd厀ho issues a strong warning to us all: forget about Taiwanese independence if we抮e interested in peace and a successful Olympic Games in 2008.

With all eyes focussed on Iraq, it抯 easy to overlook other real flash-points around the globe, for instance another long standing challenge that could be entering a new dangerous phase, with implications for our own region, but much wider too.

Essentially, it抯 over what it means to be Chinese and what constitutes mainland China. When the Chinese Communists under Mao Tse Tun won power after the revolution in 1949, the losers retreated to the island of Taiwan. Earlier this eyar, that island re-elected its mercurial president, Chen Shui-bien, who has always believed in full independence for Taiwan, not the rather pragmatic relationship that exists now.

Billions of dollars flow across their mutual borders in trade and investment. But most of the international community, including Australia, officially recognises China as the sovereign state and Taiwan as merely a 憄rovince?

China currently has around 450 ballistic missiles aimed directly at Taiwan. Taiwan has its own army, partly equipped by US weaponry and according o my guest tonight, the situation emerging between the two countries should make us worry.

A fluent Mandarin speaker and China-phile of the first order, ex-diplomat and now Labor抯 Foreign Affairs spokesman, Kevin Rudd, has recently returned from Beijing.

Kevin Rudd, Welcome to Sunday Profile

Kevin Rudd:

It抯 good to be with you

Geraldine Doogue:

You抳e just returned from China and were clearly troubled by some of the attitudes you found there, why so?

Kevin Rudd:

I抳e looked at the China ?Taiwan phenomenon for a long long time, both, and I used to be a diplomat. More recently, since I抳e been in this business, and I haven抰 seen it as quite, I haven抰 seen it quite as tense as this since the mid ?0抯 when we had the Taiwan Straits Crisis, the missile firing crisis. I think it抯 as been now as it抯 been in the decade. And I am concerned about where it rolls onto in the future. If you ask me why I think that, it抯 simply the tenor, tone, content of conversations with Chinese ministers that I had. But also, friends that I got in Beijing who are not directly responsible for foreign policy, but are part of the broader political establishment in China, all of whom were reflecting to me a general view that Chen Shui-bian, the recently re-elected president of Taiwan may well take a step too far, as far as the formal proclamation of Taiwan抯 independence is concerned.

Geraldine Doogue:

Was there one thing that someone said that particularly triggered alarm bells for you?

Kevin Rudd:

There was. There was a meeting I had with a senior Chinese leader who used this phrase, 搘ith Chen Shui-bian the president of Taiwan, we have studied him, we have studied his words, we抳e observed his actions and we抳e done so for the last four years, we抳e now concluded that this individual is committed to taking Taiwan in the direction of independence, and formal separation from China. And for those reasons we抳e now decided that we need a different approach to this man? That is probably the sharpest way in which their analysis of Taiwanese domestic politics has been put to me in the many times I抳e been back to Beijing in recent years.

Geraldine Doogue:

Do they feel there抯 something about this man抯 personality that they simply can抰 deal with?

Kevin Rudd:

I think, in their analysis of Chen Shui-bian, they believe that Chen is a person who is deeply personally, politically and psychologically committed to an independent Republic of Taiwan, that抯 their analytical conclusion. And their view, if I was trying to characterise it is that this individual step by step, by one means or another, by formal steps, by informal steps will always be pushing the envelope in terms of taking Taiwan in that direction. Of course, as your listeners would know, this is the redline issue for the Chinese leadership. When it comes to 搕he unity of the motherland? it抯 not just the rhetoric of the one China principle that people are concerned about, it抯 actually quite deep emotional, psychological and political within the Chinese leadership as well. And across all groups within that leadership. Allowing Taiwan to slide away into a formally independent Taiwan is something which is unconscionable for them, in terms of the political tradition they come from.

Geraldine Doogue:

So it taps this Achilles heel chaos question in China and can the centre hold and all of that?

Kevin Rudd:

In part, and there is a grave concern on the part of anyone running China at anytime in it抯 history, there抯 a Chinese expression, which is this, it抯 called Gao Wan, two words, and Gao Wan means to create chaos and within Chinese political history, anyone who has allowed Wan, 慶haos?to happen, is written up in history as a very very bad leader indeed. The good leaders are those who preserve, not just the unity of the empire or the country, depending on what period you抮e looking at, but also maintain it in reasonable order. So there are these two factors at play, as I said, quite apart form the formal international legal debates of the present in terms of Taiwan抯 proper status.

Geraldine Doogue:

So Kevin Rudd, Chen Shui-bian is of this Chinese tradition himself, like, what抯
motivating him to behave in this way?

Kevin Rudd:

Well, Chen comes from a side of Chinese politics, The Democratic Progress Party which, for a long long time has been formally committed to Taiwan抯 independence. Remember, up until the 90抯, early 90抯, Taiwan was not a functioning democracy and the Democratic Progress Party was, at best, an unofficial movement, or at times, an outlawed movement. And many of the historical activists had been imprisoned. Chen抯 own historical experience within Taiwanese domestic politics has been deeply oppositionist towards the ruling KMT authority within Taiwan, since Chiang Kai-Shek fled in 49 through until the 90抯. His own wife, suffered as a result of what抯 believed to have been a political attack on him and her through her, when she was run-over by a car and, is in a wheelchair to this day. This person抯 deep personal political experiences have therefore been shaped around the political movement within Taiwan, which has been oppositionist to the ruling KMT orthodoxy in Taiwan. Um, firmly committed to the independents cause from the beginning and reinforced by intense personal political experience.

Geraldine Doogue:

Well given all that, what are the responsibilities of other countries watching on, first the US and then us?

Kevin Rudd:

Well, to take my previous point just one step further, part of the challenge in Taiwan has been by the sheer vibrancy of the Taiwanese democracy which has emerged in the 1990抯. It抯 a very vibrant democracy. In many respects, the government in Beijing preferred the status quo anti. That is, the previous KMT government of Taiwan which still adhered to the theory of the one China policy. In other words, there was one China, Taiwan was a province of China, and, the only difference was whether the legitimate government of China was the KMT government, led by Chiang Kai-Shek and his successors, or whether it was the communist government led by Mao Tse Tung and his successors. When I studied in Taiwan as a student, the, the fiction maintained then, this was in the late 70抯, early 80抯 was that the capital of China still was Nanking. Because, when Chiang Kai-Shek fled across the Taiwan straits in 49 at the end of the Chinese civil war, the formal capital of Republican China was Nanking and they still referred to the Nanking government. Now, all that historical fiction if you like has been rolled away. And now, with the functioning Taiwanese democracy we have Chen Shui-bian opposition party, The Democratic Progress Party now on two occasions successful at the presidential level, which is what we now confront. And I抦 sorry for saying all of that, but, in answer to your question, but it does, contextualise the challenge which the international community has in dealing with the Taiwanese government which is democratically elected.

Geraldine Doogue:

Well the irony, well quite, the irony is, this is in a case where democracy hasn抰 produced equilibrium.

Kevin Rudd:

Absolutely, and you can see some examples of this elsewhere in the world since democracies have emerged in Eastern Europe as well, former Eastern Europe. Now in terms of dealing though with the Taiwanese democracy, the Taiwanese domestic public opinion according to opinion polls basically falls into three directions. There are a substantial group of people who want independence, there抯 a much larger group of people who simply want the status quo and there is a small group of people who want some form of political accommodation with China. And, here I抦 publishing published opinion poll surveys within Taiwan itself. What do we do about that?
I think the time has come for the international community including Australia, to level with our friends in Taiwan, whereas it抯 been fantastic for them to develop a functioning democracy, and it抯 been great to see Taiwan become a modern economy with rapidly and radically improved living standards for its 23 million people, when it comes to a formal declaration of independence of steps in that direction厀e do not think it is, good for the people of Taiwan, good for the people on the mainland or good for this region, including Australia, for that step to be taken when a high risk of the consequence of it would be war within our region. We need to start saying that directly and publicly to the Taiwanese government.

Geraldine Doogue:

Two things. Would we have any say? And is war really a possibility?

Kevin Rudd:

On the question of whether we抎 have any sway, I think there are some in Taiwan who believe that if Taiwan as a functioning democracy declared its independence, that the rest of the international community would automatically put its hand up and say, 搘ell thanks, that抯 terrific, another state has joined the international community of democratic states, and we will recognise it? I think we抳e got a responsibility in the collective west and certainly form the point of view of Australia and the United States to make it very clear that we will not do that. Because we are bound by the terms of our treaty of recognition of the PRC in 1972, which explicitly accepted Taiwan as a province of China.

Geraldine Doogue:

This is the China, the one China policy

Kevin Rudd:

The one China policy which isn抰 just a mantra, it is actually anchored in our international treaty obligations which we undertook in the recognition communnique of 1972. And other governments around the world have done the same. So, I think in terms of letting Taiwanese domestic public opinion know that if you went down the independence road, there should not be any automatic expectation that the rest of the world is going to rise up in applause spontaneously and recognise 揳n new Republic of Taiwan?

Geraldine Doogue:

But would we be repudiating it?

Kevin Rudd:

Repudiating any such unilateral declaration, well, I think, when you look at the text of our obligations, which we took on as a nation, not as an individual government in 1972, and all other governments recognising Beijing have done the same, we have a formal requirement to adhere to the obligations we took on at that time, which is to accept Beijing and the PRC as the legitimate government of all China. I think that would be what would govern our attitude at the time as well. The flip side of all this, goes to your second question, the possibility of war. It抯 very important for people in political life not to be loose in their remarks on serious questions of the possibility of war, so I抦 careful with what I say here. But having been to Beijing most recently and having travelled to Beijing a couple of times each year for the last umpteen years, and having done the same in previous years in Taiwan. I am deeply concerned about the possibility of armed conflict. Do I regard it as a probability, and inevitability? No. Do I regard it as a distinct possibility? Yes. If this is not properly handled now, and part of handling it properly, lies in an intelligent response to our friends in Taipei about the consequences of embracing the independence option.

Geraldine Doogue:

More of a preference to do that, than actually trying to somehow massage views in Beijing?

Kevin Rudd:

Well, effective diplomacy is usually the sound of two hands clapping, not just one. Saying these things to the authorities in Taipei is important. Urging our friends in Beijing to exercise restraint is also important and I抳e been in the business of doing that as well. But, you抳e got to be realistic about this for the reasons I outlined before. If I was to somehow suggest to your listeners that, don抰 worry, the level of cross straight communications, now, between Taiwan and China. The Chinese mainland is now such on the economic front that all these factors would act against China ever contemplating the military option. If I was to leave your listeners with the impression that therefore those economic arguments would cancel out any Chinese planning predisposition to go down the military road in response to a Taiwanese UDI, unilateral declaration of independence, then I think that would be quite wrong. I think, the power the potency, the depth and the breadth of Chinese domestic political opinion on this, within the Chinese communist party and all groups within it reformist and conservative is such that you are looking at a strong possibility of armed conflict under those circumstances.

Geraldine Doogue:

Kevin Rudd is my guest on Sunday Profile, the shadow foreign affairs spokesmen. Just, let抯 live with that a bit though, if there was, god forbid, some form of invasion by the Peoples Republic of China of Taiwan, would this 憃ne China policy?mean we had to support that invasion?

Kevin Rudd:

Well, any invasion by, using armed force would be something deeply disturbing to any Australian government, Labor or Conservative. And we would have grave concerns, grave concerns about China resorting to that course of action. But, I抳e got to say, the immediate and practical challenge, rather than talking about the hypotheticals which could arise at that time is, what do we as an international community and Australian political and foreign policy community do now to prevent this scenario from unfolding? That is what I regard as the practical challenge of statesmanship right now. It抯 for those sort for reasons that I抦 starting to speak out on this more in the last few weeks because I抦, to be frank Geraldine, just deeply worried about all of this.

Geraldine Doogue:

So if you were, let me ask you practically then, say you were elected, like Labor was elected, what would you a s a Foreign Minister do first about this most concerning issue?

Kevin Rudd:

I think the responsibility I抳e got now as an alternative Foreign Minister and as a Foreign Minister if we win this election, is to speak directly to our friends in Taiwan. I started this last weekend, the Taiwanese representative in Australia who was a fellow I got to know quite well in recent times I simply levelled with him in public forum and said this is not helpful for regional security, it抯 not helpful for the people of Taiwan, it抯 not helpful for the people in China, it抯 not helpful for the Australian people. Nobody is this neighbourhood wants there to be war, I mean this region has been freed by and large from the scourge of large scale war for a quarter of a century or more, since Indo-China, I don抰 think the reason wants to contemplate that possibility again. So, putting that message directly to our friends in Taiwan, is really important and to have it carried within the Taiwanese domestic media given that Taiwan is a democracy, they need to know where other democracies stand on this question.

Geraldine Doogue:

What do you think is the chance of Taiwan for instance, taking the Hong Kong path, in effect trying to have a one country, two systems approach?

Kevin Rudd:

Well I was having a bite with a few mates in Beijing recently and we were talking about one country, three systems and whether that would work, because if you look at the text of China抯 offer to Taiwan, it goes further than what was offered Hong Kong because it allows Taiwan to maintain it抯 own armed forces, for example. What that would mean in practice is another thing altogether. But, plainly Beijing is exploring options about one country, two systems and how it would apply to Taiwan抯 circumstances, this does not have any particular appeal to people in Taiwan at all. And I think it would be rejected by an overwhelming majority of the Taiwanese people if it were put to any democratic ballot at present, but that抯 a matter for the Taiwanese people of course.

Geraldine Doogue:

So there抯 been this growing aspiration on the part of the Taiwanese people themselves, they抮e starting to tilt at a windmill you think is most unwise but the sound of it?

Kevin Rudd:
I think so, there抯 a level of, you could almost say naivety on the part of certain people in the Taiwanese political process about what Beijing might do under these circumstances. If you look at the extent of China抯 military preparation for the possibility of armed conflict from Taiwan, they are formidable and concerning. And these are matters we also raise with the Chinese in terms of the contribution of those preparations to overall regional stability.

Geraldine Doogue:
But even as the Olympics approach Kevin, you think that they will?

Kevin Rudd:

Well, the view in Taiwan, and this is again why I抦 raising these matters Geraldine, the view in Taiwan is that China is so attached to the international PR coup that the 2008 Olympics represent that they would under no circumstances contemplate the possibility of any military action against Taiwan. I think this is foolish optimism on the part of those who hold that view within Taiwan. The reason I say that is that is that it doesn抰 take due regard to the fact that within the Chinese leadership there are no votes in terms of being seen to be soft on Taiwan on a core question of Taiwan moving towards a formal declaration of independence.

Geraldine Doogue:

But, and I don抰 think this is wildly theoretical - even at the risk of losing the Olympics?

Kevin Rudd:

Well, again we move off into hypothetical land. But what I抦 trying to flag to your listeners and the Australian government and the broader international community is how serious this thing is becoming. And if there is a view that the Beijing Olympics of itself would prevent China from responding militarily to a Taiwanese declaration of independence or some such action I think that is undue optimism.

Geraldine Doogue:

Just before I leave this have you met President Chen?

Kevin Rudd:

Yeah a few times, he used to be Mayor of Taipei before he headed off for the Presidency. I met him several times when he was Mayor of Taipei because he was a very interesting DPP politician on the make.

Well, there抯 a bit of a handicap in dealing with President Chen in my current capacity as a Foreign Minister, if we become government at the end of the year ?we don抰 deal with the President of Taiwan or their Foreign Ministers or Defence Ministers ?it is part of the One China policy so we抮e a bit hamstrung. But there are other ways you can get messages through to the Taiwanese government. They have an unofficial representative in Australia and messages can be communicated at that level.
Can we deal with President Chen? Let抯 see. He抯 an interesting kettle of fish.

Geraldine Doogue:

I just also wondered about your verdict on China抯 progress towards a modern plural state. For instance, the continuing detention and interrogation of the 72 year old military doctor who exposed China抯 cover-up of SARS last year is a very interesting
illustration it seems of how far China has yet to travel. His wife抯 been released but he抯 apparently still detained.

Kevin Rudd:

On the particular case Geraldine I don抰 know I抣l try and find out. On the broader point about the state of democratisation or human rights evolution within China itself plainly there are still massive problems on this front. I don抰 pretend either to your audience or to anyone else to gild the lily that this place has become a functioning liberal democracy, it hasn抰. China is still a one party state. The big point though about China抯 political evolution in the last 25 years is that has become broadly a more tolerant one party state than it was.

If you look at the depth and breadth of political opinion in China as expressed through the newspapers, through dissenting literature, dissenting journals, if you look at the role played by the National Peoples?Congress these days which is China抯 equivalent of a Parliament which is not democratically elected, increasingly you see an expression of voices in Chinese politics beyond the monolithic Chinese Communist Party. It is a different China from the one I started studying 25 years ago.

Geraldine Doogue:

Look Kevin, you抮e obviously fascinated with this place. Where did the fascination start?

Kevin Rudd:

Well it抯 a big place. Anyone who is interested in the world can抰 ignore China.

Geraldine Doogue:

But you learned Mandarin, a lot of us don抰 go quite that far.

Kevin Rudd:

We抳e all got our perversities haven抰 we Geraldine I抦 sure you抳e got some as well.
I grew up in the Queensland country my existential conversation as a kid way, I grew up on a farm and my father said to me when I was about 10 ?揔ev have you made up your mind what you are going to do in life?? Which to a 10-year old is a fairly confronting question.

揟here are two great choices that you face? I said Dad what are they? He said 揑s it going to be beef or is it going to be dairy??China struck me as the third way.
We had a book on Chinese archaeology and I would squirrel myself away under a tree and have a read while I supposed be getting the cows. I think that抯 how it all started. And I was inspired as a kid by Gough. And I thought this country is going to have a huge impact on us somehow some way so I should try and learn the language which is what I did.

Geraldine Doogue:

What is, finally, the greatest myth you think we hold about it?
China抯 emerging as this powerhouse, all these great metaphors are used. But I sense you both hope for it and you抮e remarkably clear-eyed about it - you抮e not romantic really about China are you?

Kevin Rudd:

No, I抦 not romantic, but I抦 on balance an optimist about China by which I mean that if you look at the great trend line of history and this country emerging from a horrible period of foreign occupation from the Opium Wars to the end of the Japanese occupation after the last war, more than a hundred years and you see the convulsions of its political transformation from the ?0s on ?the Great Leap Forward, the Cultural Revolution and all the disasters that have happened, you抳e got to say that this country is trending right at last. Both in terms of allowing a better living standard for a quarter of humanity and allowing a greater level of political expression than it has in least in the last quarter century

But I抦 clear-eyed in the sense that as far as China抯 future role in the world is concerned and the region when it becomes a great power, and I believe it will, the script as to how China will behave in the world hasn抰 been written yet. They themselves haven抰 worked this out because the previous 150 years of Chinese history have been focussed on their domestic concerns.

This is a script we need to work with China in developing. Part of what I want to do as a Labor Foreign Minister is with our friends in Beijing, and I抳e got a few, is to sit down and to the extent that we can, not overstating our role at all, encourage China in the direction of believing that its future both in security policy and economic policy and more broadly environmental policy as well, see the merits in working within the constraints of an international rules based system, the United Nations and other organisations.Because that way China抯 emergence as a great power can be managed.

One of the reasons I抳e been concerned about the Iraq war is that I get worried about the United States and John Winston Howard here at home thinking it is very clever and very smart to thumb your nose at the United Nations and the United Nations Security Council, the U.N Charter. Whatever the imperfections at least it is a bunch of rules which the world community put together half a century ago ?and some rules are better than none.

Geraldine Doogue:

Kevin Rudd thanks for your time.

Kevin Rudd:

Thank you

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Australia and China: A Strong and Stable Partnership for the 21st Century 
 
2004/07/06 
Speech made by Kevin Rudd - Australian Shadow Minister for Foreign Affairs and International Security at The Central Party School of the Communist Party of China, Beijing - 1 July 2004 (Transcipt )
Thank you for the invitation to address the Central Party School of the Communist Party of China.

This school has played an important role in the modern history of China.

It is one hundred years ago this year that the Chinese Imperial Government abolished the imperial examination system.

In the one hundred years since then, the preoccupation of all Chinese reformers has been the identification, selection and cultivation of talented individuals dedicated to the economic and political transformation of China.

This school forms part of that tradition ? and from within its faculty have come many of those who have led the domestic economic reforms of the last quarter century, together with reforms leading to China's opening to the outside world.

The challenges this school will face over the next quarter century will be even greater as China develops as a great power and plays an increasingly important regional and global role.

I began my studies of China back in 1976 when I enrolled as an undergraduate in the Department of Chinese at the Australian National University.

Little did I know then that 1976 would prove to be such a momentous year in modern Chinese history. The death of Zhou Enlai. The death of Mao Zedong. The purge of the Gang of Four.

The course that I studied combined modern Chinese, classical Chinese, Chinese history, Chinese philosophy and Chinese literature.

It took five years. When I began, we studied "Da Zhai" and "Da Qing". By third year we were studying Deng Xiaoping's dictum "seek truth from facts" and "practice is the only criterion for truth". And by the time I graduated, we had advanced to critical discussions of "the reform of the economic system". It was, indeed, an interesting time to be studying China.

When I came to China to work for the first time twenty years ago, back in 1984, the Party was preparing for the third plenum of the twelfth Central Committee ? the plenum which undertook reforms in agriculture and applied the principles of reform to the entire economic system. These were courageous and far-sighted decisions taken by the Party's leadership at a time when the country was still throwing off the ideological shackles of the Cultural Revolution.

In the intervening twenty years, I've been back to China many, many times - as a diplomat, as a state government official, as a businessman, as a Member of Parliament, now as the alternative Foreign Minister of Australia.

I have been here both in good times and in difficult times, like May of 1989.

I like China. I like its people. I admire the achievements of its extraordinary civilisation. And unlike some, I am an optimist ? not a pessimist ? about China's future.

For the history now being written in this country will form a large part of the history of all humankind this century.

And it is, therefore, a chapter in which the rest of humankind has a great interest.


Role of the CPC
This year the Communist Party of China is 83 years old.

A couple of months ago I was in Shanghai and took my son, who is studying Chinese at Fudan University, to the modest building where the Chinese Communist Party held its first National Congress in 1921.

From modest beginnings, to the party that has grown to a total membership of around 70 million.

During those 83 years, it is a Party which has seen civil war, the war of resistance against Japan, the disasters of the 'Great Leap Forward' and the Cultural Revolution, and now a period of unprecedented unity and prosperity.

Adjusting the Party to the ideological, political, economic and international circumstances of the last quarter century has been an arduous task.

The collapse of the Soviet Union, the end of the Cold War, the proper role of state-owned enterprises in the modern Chinese economy, the relationship between Party and State and the continuing process of constitutional, political and legal reform have together presented significant challenges.

And the achievements, thus far, have also been equally significant.


Australian Labor Party
We in this delegation come from one of the oldest, continuing social democratic parties in the world.

The Australian Labor Party was founded in 1891 as a result of large scale, industrial action by rural and urban workers across Australia.

We are about as old as the German Social Democratic Party. And we are considerably older than the British Labor Party.

We are a Party rich in political history having been the governing Party nationally for one third of the last century and at the State level (there are six states in Australia) for more than one half of the last century.

We are the Social Democratic Party which, in Australia and in much of the western social democratic world, pioneered fundamental social reforms in the first half of the last century. These included workers compensation insurance, aged pensions and widows' pensions.

And in the last quarter century, we have been the Party which reformed, modernised and internationalised the Australian economy ? reforms which enabled the Australian economy to survive robustly the impact of the Asian financial crisis of 1997-98.

And we also believe that we are on the verge of forming government again in Australia in our upcoming national elections, which are due within the next several months.

Labor's relationship with China
The Australian Labor movement is made up of two wings: the Australian Labor Party and the Australian trade union movement.

The Australian trade union movement first became engaged with China's cause back in the 1930s and 40s following the Japanese invasion of Manchuria. It was during this period that Australia's representatives on the International Labour Organisation in Geneva led a campaign of international industrial action against Japanese shipping around the world ? in protest against Japanese aggression towards China.

In 1949, when the Peoples Republic of China was proclaimed, the Australian Labor Party was in power in Canberra under Labor Prime Minister Chifley. The then Australian Labor Government made preparations to extend diplomatic recognition to the new government of China towards the end of 1949. Unfortunately, during the general elections of November 1949, the Labor Party was defeated ? and remained out of office for the next 23 years.

For the following 23 years, successive conservative governments of Australia maintained diplomatic relations with the Nationalist government of Taiwan ? until 1972 when the Australian Labor Party was finally returned to political power. In one of its first decisions, Labor Prime Minister Whitlam extended diplomatic political recognition to the PRC ? diplomatic recognition based on a firm commitment to the principles of the One China policy.

During the 1980s, the Hawke Labor Government developed a closer relationship with the China at multiple levels. It was during this period that Prime Minister Hawke and his Chinese counterparts brought about the first Chinese resource investment abroad ? the Channar Iron Ore Mine in Western Australia.

Back in the 1980s, Labor Prime Minister Hawke began outlining a long-term vision for the future of the Australia-China relationship based on the strongest levels of economic cooperation between the two countries.

This vision was sustained during the 1990s under Labor Prime Minister Keating who sought to deepen and broaden Australia's bilateral relationship with China ? as well as enhance China's multilateral engagement with the region through APEC.

As a party, therefore, the Australian Labor Party has always placed a strong priority on Australia's relationship with China. It has a long history. We also believe it will have a long future.

 


Foreign Policy and the Australian Labor Party
The Australian Labor Party's approach to foreign policy is based on the three fundamental pillars:

our membership of the United Nations;
our alliance with the United States; and
our policy of comprehensive engagement in Asia.
Australia, under a Labor Government, was an active participant in the San Francisco Conference in 1945 which shaped both the UN Charter and the UN Organisation. Since that time, successive Australian Labor Governments have attached great priority to the role of the UN multilateral system. This was a fundamental reason for the Australian Labor Party's recent opposition to the decision by the United States to participate in the military invasion of Iraq.

The second pillar of the foreign policy of the Australian Labor Party is our alliance with the United States. As with our membership of the United Nations, our alliance with the United States was forged by the Australian Labor Government during World War II. In those days, Australia, like China, was at war with Japan. And it was the United States which came to our military assistance and helped prevent a Japanese invasion of Australia. For these and other continuing strategic reasons, Australia's alliance with the United States continues to have strong support from the Australian people ? despite recent disagreements between the alternative government of Australia and the Bush administration on the question of Iraq.

The third pillar of Australian Labor Party foreign policy is our policy of comprehensive engagement with Asia. We believe that Australia's economic, political and strategic future is intimately tied up with the future of our own region. And it is for these reasons that successive Australian Labor Governments have sought to develop the best possible bilateral political relationships with regional countries, as well as developing multilateral regional relationships through APEC, aimed at regional trade liberalisation, and the ASEAN Regional Forum (ARF), which is aimed at creating a regional security dialogue across the disparate countries of the region. For Australia, China is at the core of our policy of comprehensive regional engagement.

 


China and Multilateralism
Australia has a fundamental interest in working closely with China in the evolution of the multilateral, rules-based order ? in relation to global security, the global economic and, of course, the global environment.

China is seeking to play a more active role in international affairs. From our perspective, this is a welcome development.

We particularly welcome China's engagement with the United States in the War against Terrorism aimed at eliminating al Qaeda, Jeemah Islamiah and other associated terrorist organisations. Terrorism knows no geographical boundaries. Together with China, we also face a common challenge in eliminating international sources of terrorist financing ? in particular the resurgence of the opium crop in Afghanistan, which the United Nations estimates is worth US$2.6 billion per year.

An Australian Labor Government would also look forward to working with China in the United Nations ? particularly in the reform of the Security Council and the international community's response to the Expert Panel established by the United Nations Secretary General which will report to next year's General Assembly.

Australia and China also have an interest in working together in the World Trade Organisation, as both our countries and economies are the beneficiaries of a liberalised multilateral trading system. China's prosperity and Australia's prosperity depend fundamentally on global trade liberalisation. If the world were to break up into protectionist blocs or retreat into national protectionist regimes, the economic and strategic consequences for us all would be disastrous.

Australia and China also share an interest in the revitalisation of APEC in order to accelerate regional trade liberalisation and facilitation here in the most dynamic economic region in the world.

 


China and the region
Here within the region, China should be commended for the constructive role it has played in hosting the Six Party Talks on North Korea. This is a complex and difficult diplomatic exercise. And while no resolution is immediately in sight, the fact that negotiations are occurring is far better than the alternative.

The continued normalisation of China's relationship with Japan is also important for the security and stability of the wider region.

Japan will continue to be the world's second largest economy for the next decade and a half and the region's largest economy.

The interdependencies between our three economies (Japan, China and Australia) are also an important factor for the future.

In this connection, good relationships between Beijing, Tokyo and Canberra are of the highest importance.

China is also playing an increasingly active role in South East Asia ? both bilaterally and through the ASEAN Plus Three arrangement.

Australia has a close political and economic relationship with South East Asia which we would like to improve in the future. An incoming Australian Labor Government would look forward to the closest negotiations with our friends in North East Asia and South East Asia about the future shape of the region's broader economic architecture.

Australia notes with satisfaction the recent normalisation of China's relationship with India. We believe this is good for strategic stability. It is also good for the wider region's prosperity given the role which India will play, together with China and Japan, in the long-term economic growth of the region.

A continuing danger to strategic stability in East Asia and the West Pacific is the current state of relations across the Taiwan Straits. As noted previously, Australia and most regional states are committed to the principle of the One China policy. That has not changed. And it will not change.

I have noted carefully China's reaction to the recent "presidential elections" in Taiwan. Just as I have also noted carefully American reactions to those developments and the influence which the United States has brought to bear on Taiwan since the elections.

Australia does not believe that the interests of regional stability are served by any moves towards Taiwanese independence.  We have also made this plain to the Taiwanese authorities.

At the same time we believe that restraint is required all-round so that the continued development of people-to-people links, cultural and economic links can assist over time in bringing a negotiated solution to this problem left over from history.

In this context, the upcoming Beijing Olympics in 2008 may present great opportunities for the Chinese Government.

The worst-case scenario for China, the United States and the Asia Pacific Region is for tensions across the Taiwan Straits to result in armed conflict.

Nobody within this region wants Taiwan to become the Sarajevo of the 21 st century.

If we are to learn from Europe's failures from the last century, diplomatic solutions must be found for our own region. And to that end, we in Australia always stand ready to assist in whichever way the parties may deem to be appropriate.

 


Bilateral cooperation
China has recently dispatched a new ambassador to Australia ? Ambassador Fu Ying - who in the three short months that she has been in our country has been active in her negotiations with state and federal governments on where to take our bilateral relationship during the 21 st century.

Ambassador Fu has outlined areas of potential, long-term cooperation between China and Australia. These include:

The energy and resources sector where Australia is well endowed and where China has long-term unmet demand in order to satisfy its requirements for long-term economic growth;
Agriculture and agricultural technologies where Australia remains a world leader and where China can benefit from Australia's longstanding excellence;
Science and technology, in particular biotechnology, where Australia's biotechnology research centres are world leaders;
Environmental management, where China's needs are once again great and where Australia has particular expertise to bring to bear, particularly in terms of waste water treatment; and
Education, where English language education, as well as education in business, economics and the full range of the sciences are all readily available. And all, more or less, within the same time zone as China. And considerably more affordable than that provided by the United States and the United Kingdom for Chinese students studying abroad. We already have 80,000 Chinese students studying in Australia.

I'd like to commend Ambassador Fu for her work in Australia in seeking to develop long-term government to government cooperative frameworks in each of these sectors.

For our part, as the alternative government of Australia, we would like to develop a 25-year long strategy in the energy and resources sector between our two countries.

Australia provided energy and resources security to Japan to underpin that country's economic recovery and development during the 50s, 60s and 70s. We believe we can do the same again for China ? for which the recent LNG project with Australia should be seen as a precursor.

Australia also looks forward to the conclusion of the bilateral scoping study being undertaken concerning a possible Free Trade Agreement between our two countries.  Multilateral trade liberalisation through the WTO remains critical. As do further trade liberalisation and trade facilitation efforts through APEC. But we should also explore creatively what we can do to enhance our growing trade through this bilateral scoping study as well.

 


China's development challenges
We fully recognise that China's path to economic development may not be smooth.

We recognise the enormous challenges for those responsible for China's economic management in generating growth in the economy each year in excess of 8 per cent in order to generate the employment opportunities necessary to provide jobs for the unemployed ? and for those newly emerging into the labour market.

We also recognise the challenges China faces in terms of regional equity ? a policy of opening up the country's west so that it can catch up with the economic development which is already being achieved in the central and coastal provinces.

I've already referred to energy security in the context of the bilateral relationship with Australia. But plainly, long-term, secure external sources of energy supply from Central Asia, the Russian Federation, from offshore platforms as well as Australia, will be necessary in order to meet the future demands of the Chinese economy.

Sustainable development, environmental management and the proper management of water resources, in particular, present large challenges for China's planners in the future.

As does the proper provision of social security in an age of profound demographic change arising from the One Child policy.

China, therefore, faces many opportunities ? as well as many challenges.

Good friends of China, like Australia, would like to work with you on both the opportunities and the challenges.

Our interest in China is not just driven by export dollars. It is also driven by our deep desire to see China succeed overall.

Because China's success is important not just for the Chinese people, its success is important for all of us.

 


Conclusion
More than six centuries ago, the famous Chinese navigator Zheng He explored much of the Asia Pacific region as well as the Indian Ocean.

During this period, China was the beneficiary of open economic engagement with the rest of the world.

The best periods in China's history have been those where China has been open to the rest of the world ? good for China, and good for the world.

The history of our current century is still being written.

We do not know how this Asian Century will turn out.

There is a script for prosperity and peace.

There is a script based on open markets.

And a script based on cooperative solutions to longstanding security problems.

There are alternative scripts as well ? based on protectionism, armed conflict as well as a disregard for global, sustainable development.

As with all the large decisions in human history, the decisions lie with us.

Australia stands ready to work with China in constructing a peaceful, prosperous and environmentally sustainable Asia Pacific Century.

A strong, stable and secure partnership between Australia and China for the 21 st century will be good for China, good for Australia, good for the region and good for the world. 

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good to know, by the way, what is the position of ALP in austrilians' parliament?
 
House of representatives of Australian Parliament
 
List of Members by Political Party
 
Australian Labor Party
  Adams, The Hon Dick, Member for Lyons
  Albanese, Mr Anthony, Member for Grayndler
  Beazley, The Hon Kim, Member for Brand
  Bevis, The Hon Arch, Member for Brisbane
  Bird, Ms Sharon, Member for Cunningham
  Bowen, Mr Chris, Member for Prospect
  Burke, Mr Tony, Member for Watson
  Burke, Ms Anna, Member for Chisholm
  Byrne, Mr Anthony, Member for Holt
  Corcoran, Ms Ann, Member for Isaacs
  Crean, The Hon Simon, Member for Hotham
  Danby, Mr Michael, Member for Melbourne Ports
  Edwards, The Hon Graham, Member for Cowan
  Elliot, Mrs Justine, Member for Richmond
  Ellis, Ms Annette, Member for Canberra
  Ellis, Ms Kate, Member for Adelaide
  Emerson, Dr Craig, Member for Rankin
  Ferguson, Mr Laurie, Member for Reid
  Ferguson, Mr Martin, Member for Batman
  Fitzgibbon, Mr Joel, Member for Hunter
  Garrett, Mr Peter, Member for Kingsford Smith
  Georganas, Mr Steve, Member for Hindmarsh
  George, Ms Jennie, Member for Throsby
  Gibbons, Mr Steve, Member for Bendigo
  Gillard, Ms Julia, Member for Lalor
  Grierson, Ms Sharon, Member for Newcastle
  Griffin, Mr Alan, Member for Bruce
  Hall, Ms Jill, Member for Shortland
  Hatton, Mr Michael, Member for Blaxland
  Hayes, Mr Chris, Member for Werriwa
  Hoare, Ms Kelly, Member for Charlton
  Irwin, Mrs Julia, Member for Fowler
  Jenkins, Mr Harry, Member for Scullin
  Kerr, The Hon Duncan, Member for Denison
  King, Ms Catherine, Member for Ballarat
  Lawrence, The Hon Dr Carmen, Member for Fremantle
  Livermore, Ms Kirsten, Member for Capricornia
  Macklin, Ms Jenny, Member for Jagajaga
  McClelland, Mr Robert, Member for Barton
  McMullan, Mr Bob, Member for Fraser
  Melham, Mr Daryl, Member for Banks
  Murphy, Mr John, Member for Lowe
  O'Connor, Mr Brendan, Member for Gorton
  O'Connor, Mr Gavan, Member for Corio
  Owens, Ms Julie, Member for Parramatta
  Plibersek, Ms Tanya, Member for Sydney
  Price, The Hon Roger, Member for Chifley
  Quick, Mr Harry, Member for Franklin
  Ripoll, Mr Bernie, Member for Oxley
  Roxon, Ms Nicola, Member for Gellibrand
  Rudd, Mr Kevin, Member for Griffith
  Sawford, Mr Rodney, Member for Port Adelaide
  Sercombe, Mr Bob, Member for Maribyrnong
  Smith, Mr Stephen, Member for Perth
  Snowdon, The Hon Warren, Member for Lingiari
  Swan, Mr Wayne, Member for Lilley
  Tanner, Mr Lindsay, Member for Melbourne
  Thomson, Mr Kelvin, Member for Wills
  Vamvakinou, Ms Maria, Member for Calwell
  Wilkie, Mr Kim, Member for Swan
 
Country Liberal Party
  Tollner, Mr David, Member for Solomon
 
Independent
  Andren, Mr Peter, Member for Calare
  Katter, The Hon Robert, Member for Kennedy
  Windsor, Mr Tony, Member for New England
 
Liberal Party of Australia
  Abbott, The Hon Tony, Member for Warringah
  Andrews, The Hon Kevin, Member for Menzies
  Bailey, The Hon Fran, Member for McEwen
  Baird, The Hon Bruce, Member for Cook
  Baker, Mr Mark, Member for Braddon
  Baldwin, The Hon Bob, Member for Paterson
  Barresi, Mr Phillip, Member for Deakin
  Bartlett, Mr Kerry, Member for Macquarie
  Billson, The Hon Bruce, Member for Dunkley
  Bishop, The Hon Bronwyn, Member for Mackellar
  Bishop, The Hon Julie, Member for Curtin
  Broadbent, Mr Russell, Member for McMillan
  Brough, The Hon Mal, Member for Longman
  Cadman, The Hon Alan, Member for Mitchell
  Ciobo, Mr Steven, Member for Moncrieff
  Costello, The Hon Peter, Member for Higgins
  Downer, The Hon Alexander, Member for Mayo
  Draper, Mrs Trish, Member for Makin
  Dutton, The Hon Peter, Member for Dickson
  Elson, Mrs Kay, Member for Forde
  Entsch, The Hon Warren, Member for Leichhardt
  Farmer, The Hon Pat, Member for Macarthur
  Fawcett, Mr David, Member for Wakefield
  Ferguson, Mr Michael, Member for Bass
  Gambaro, The Hon Teresa, Member for Petrie
  Gash, Mrs Joanna, Member for Gilmore
  Georgiou, Mr Petro, Member for Kooyong
  Haase, Mr Barry, Member for Kalgoorlie
  Hardgrave, The Hon Gary, Member for Moreton
  Hawker, The Hon David, Member for Wannon
  Henry, Mr Stuart, Member for Hasluck
  Hockey, The Hon Joe, Member for North Sydney
  Howard, The Hon John, Member for Bennelong
  Hunt, The Hon Greg, Member for Flinders
  Jensen, Dr Dennis, Member for Tangney
  Johnson, Mr Michael, Member for Ryan
  Jull, The Hon David, Member for Fadden
  Keenan, Mr Michael, Member for Stirling
  Kelly, The Hon Jackie, Member for Lindsay
  Laming, Mr Andrew, Member for Bowman
  Ley, The Hon Sussan, Member for Farrer
  Lindsay, Mr Peter, Member for Herbert
  Lloyd, The Hon Jim, Member for Robertson
  Macfarlane, The Hon Ian, Member for Groom
  Markus, Mrs Louise, Member for Greenway
  May, Mrs Margaret, Member for McPherson
  McArthur, Mr Stewart, Member for Corangamite
  Mirabella, Mrs Sophie, Member for Indi
  Moylan, The Hon Judi, Member for Pearce
  Nairn, The Hon Gary, Member for Eden-Monaro
  Nelson, The Hon Dr Brendan, Member for Bradfield
  Pearce, The Hon Chris, Member for Aston
  Prosser, The Hon Geoffrey, Member for Forrest
  Pyne, The Hon Christopher, Member for Sturt
  Randall, Mr Don, Member for Canning
  Richardson, Mr Kym, Member for Kingston
  Robb, The Hon Andrew, Member for Goldstein
  Ruddock, The Hon Philip, Member for Berowra
  Schultz, Mr Alby, Member for Hume
  Secker, Mr Patrick, Member for Barker
  Slipper, The Hon Peter, Member for Fisher
  Smith, Mr Tony, Member for Casey
  Somlyay, The Hon Alexander, Member for Fairfax
  Southcott, Dr Andrew, Member for Boothby
  Stone, The Hon Dr Sharman, Member for Murray
  Thompson, Mr Cameron, Member for Blair
  Ticehurst, Mr Ken, Member for Dobell
  Tuckey, The Hon Wilson, Member for O'Connor
  Turnbull, The Hon Malcolm, Member for Wentworth
  Vale, The Hon Danna, Member for Hughes
  Vasta, Mr Ross, Member for Bonner
  Wakelin, Mr Barry, Member for Grey
  Washer, Dr Mal, Member for Moore
  Wood, Mr Jason, Member for La Trobe
 
The Nationals
  Anderson, The Hon John, Member for Gwydir
  Causley, The Hon Ian, Member for Page
  Cobb, The Hon John, Member for Parkes
  Forrest, Mr John, Member for Mallee
  Hartsuyker, Mr Luke, Member for Cowper
  Hull, Mrs Kay, Member for Riverina
  Kelly, The Hon De-Anne, Member for Dawson
  McGauran, The Hon Peter, Member for Gippsland
  Neville, Mr Paul, Member for Hinkler
  Scott, The Hon Bruce, Member for Maranoa
  Truss, The Hon Warren, Member for Wide Bay
  Vaile, The Hon Mark, Member for Lyne
 
Siege as you can see, currently Labor have 60 house of representatives, whereas the Liberal have 74. Since the Nationals is traditionally strong ally to the Liberal, together they hold 86 house of representatives at the moment.
 
Interesting thing is majority of the votes(though led by small margin of few percentage) go to the Labor, means there were more people voting the Labor actually. But it doesnt help them to win majority of the electorate(seats) in parliament because the population density of each electorate varies.
 
Nevertheless Labor is in charge of all the Australian states/territories in the present as well.
 
 
Labor Premiers:
Victoria:Steve Bracks
Queensland:Peter Beattie
South Australia:Mike Rann
Northern territory:Clare Martin
ACT(Australian Capital Territory):Jon Stanhope
Tasmania:Paul Lennon
New South Wales:Morris Lemma
Western Australia:Alan Carpenter
 
 


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  Quote Siege Tower Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Dec-2006 at 12:31
good to know, so in your opinion, is this a bad thing or a good thing. bcause in my opinion, it is not nessasary a bad thing, after all, the southern asia is under the chinese political influence.

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If you read Rudd's speech dedicated to Gough carefully, and look at how Australia's relationship with Asia changed over time, you see ALP played positive and vital role in that regard. Such as recognition of the PRC, see the need of engagement of Asia rather than plainly part of the British empire or vanguard of the American hegemony. Domestically, its also the ALP adopted "Multiculturalism" for Australia, compare to Australia's "white racist" tradition, this is definately an improvement, it cant be helpful for it still be a white racist country while trying to engage Asian countries at the same time. Rudd mentioned 4 phases of the country's relation with Asia, now he thinks Australia should take step further into the fourth phase.

During the 1996's "missile crisis" over Taiwan strait, Australia was the first to support America's response to the incident by sending carriers to the region. I asked my Australian teacher(a white male in his 50)why Australia always follow America(which they do, for instance, Korea,Vitnam,Iraq)? He went by the blackboard and write down the word "English" on it, and replied my question by saying this "because we all speak English".
 
I have discussed this many times with forumers on Chinese forums, the conclusion is whether its due to culture or race, we are different. Thats the message of that teacher's reply.
 
On AE so far, three Australian members have had impression on me, one is called machine whos banned for his racist remarks, the other two are not as racist perhaps, but just as hypocritical and arrogant.
In comparison, there are thousands of Australian members registered at stormfront. This rather reflects Rudd's observation "Hansonism at home..."
(do some research on Pauline Hanson)
 
When we say aggression of "eight nations" during the late Qing period, look closer again, some of the "English soldiers" participated in that were distinctly Australian. Exactly the reason Rudd mentioned gunboats were sent from Sydney and Adelaide to Tianjin.
 
During 50's, Australia secretly researched the means of using bio warfare on how to eliminate the Chinese and Indonesian culture, by then they were seen as serious possible threat to "white" Australia.(ABC documentary) This reflects Rudd's observation of Australia's relation to Asia at this time as well.
 
"white racism" has played profound role in Australia's historical relation with Asia. And its still strong in that country despite the introduction of "multi-culturalism" by the ALP.
 
Whats obvious with respect to Australia's relation with Asia, Kevin Rudd will definately make further improvement, which could has equally profound impact on world history and politics.
 


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good to know.
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Additional info in regarding to ALP's position in Australian Politics

Labor Edges Ahead in Australian Politics
December 3, 2006
 

- Support for the governing Coalition of Liberals and Nationals is stable in Australia, according to a Newspoll published in The Australian. 41 per cent of respondents would vote for the Coalition, while 39 per cent would back the opposition Australian Labor Party (ALP) in the next federal election.
The Australian Greens are third with seven per cent. Australias preferential voting systemwhere electors indicate an order of predilection for each contender, and the ballots from smaller parties are re-distributedgives the ALP a two-point lead over the Coalition.

In the October 2004 election, prime minister John Howard was rewarded with a fourth term in office, as the Coalition secured 87 seats in the House of Representatives. The ALPled by Mark Lathamelected 60 lawmakers. In January 2005, Kim Beazley took over as opposition leader. Beazley commanded the ALP from March 1996 to November 2001.

On Nov. 30, Howard dismissed sweeping changes in the strategy of the multinational coalition in Iraq, declaring, "I dont believe there is going to be any precipitous American withdrawal but obviously its sensible to look at many variations of tactics and military activities. Fundamental though, the best way forward will be for the politicians within Iraq to seize the moment themselves and try and bring about an end to the sectarian violence."

Beazley has vowed to end the countrys participation in the coalition effort should he form the government after the next election, tentatively scheduled for late 2007.

Polling Data

If a federal election to the House of Representatives were held today, which one of the following would you vote for? If "Uncommitted", to which one of these do you have a leaning?

 Nov. 26
 Nov. 12
 Oct. 29
 
Coalition (Liberal / National)
 41%
 41%
 42%
 
Australian Labor Party
 39%
 37%
 41%
 
Australian Greens
 7%
 9%
 7%
 
Others
 13%
 13%
 10%
 


Two-Party Preferred Vote

 Nov. 26
 Nov. 12
 Oct. 29
 
Australian Labor Party
 51%
 50%
 52%
 
Coalition (Liberal / National)
 49%
 50%
 48%
 


Source: Newspoll / The Australian
Methodology: Telephone interviews with 1,156 Australian voters, conducted from Nov. 24 to Nov. 26, 2006. Margin of error is 3 per cent.

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Very nice Charioteer, I was wondering if anybody here or overseas would notice that Rudd is a Chinese expert.

The situation in Australian politics is not a good one for Rudd or the ALP. John Howard (the Prime Minister) is a very cunning politician and is currently in control of both houses of parliament, an event that rarely occurs in Australian politics. The previous leader of the ALP, was not very popular. Despite this, the ALP is the biggest polticial party in Australia and I still think could win the next election if they run the next election campaign well.

I also don't think Rudd is a person who can talk to the majority of Australians well. He is an academic, from the department of foriegn affairs (my mother actually used to know him), while I like his ideas, I'm not sure he can articulate them in a way that will be understood.

I live in a traditional labour voting town, so I can say that here Rudd is much more popular than Howard, but Canberra will always vote labour.

You also might like to know that when Howard was in opposition in the 1980s he made several racist remarks about the Chinese. Since China has become an important buisness partner for Australia, he has appeared to moderate his views.

During the 1996's "missile crisis" over Taiwan strait, Australia was the first to support America's response to the incident by sending carriers to the region. I asked my Australian teacher(a white male in his 50)why Australia always follow America(which they do, for instance, Korea,Vitnam,Iraq)? He went by the blackboard and write down the word "English" on it, and replied my question by saying this "because we all speak English".

In terms of intervening on americas side on an conflict. Alexander Downer (our current foriegn minister) said on a trip to China last year that if any conflict broke out Australia would remain neutral. This really pissed the americans off, and Howard, as a man so pro american its sickening, stated our support for america again. However I think that secretly Downers slip-of-the-tounge is correct. Australia has too much buisness with China to risk offending her.
The fact that Australia always follows America probably does have to do with being English speaking, but it is more a policy of the government than of the people. We hate following the Americans in everything, the English we'll follow, but the americans we don't like so much. Gough Whitlam, the prime minister who abolished the white australia policy, first broke Australia's colonial attitude and recognised communist China as the legal government of china even though the US and English still recognised Taiwan. President Nixion then recognised the people's republic shortly afterwards, but in that the US followed Australias lead.

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Kudos to China and Australia bilateral relationship,land of kangaroos has strategic natural resources China in dire need to continue it's modernization and intergration into the world dominate stage. Clap
 
Thanks for this heads up thread.Wink


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    Actually Kevin Rudd came to my restaurant the other day to have lunch...very inconspicously with another friend, just like anyone else.
 
   My workmate said he wanted to go up to him and say " go the Greens!" LOL
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