Who were Scythians?

From the Bible:

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http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/Scythians Scythian One entry found for Scythian. < name=entry =/cgi-bin/dictionary method=post> < = value=Scythian name=hdwd = value=Scythians name=listword = value=Dictionary name=book> Main Entry: Scyth�i�an opWin('/cgi-bin/audio.pl?scythi01.wav=Scythian')"> Pronunciation: 'si-thE-&n, -[th]E- Function: noun Etymology: Latin Scytha, from Greek SkythEs 1 : a member of an ancient nomadic people inhabiting Scythia 2 : the Iranian language of the Scythians

that is three reputable and famous encyclopedia sources + other sources.

can you beat that? or are you just going to say that all those encyclopedia's and historians are wrong?

no, you are 100% right, language alone cannot prove anything.

just how azari's were turkified, it is possible that scythians were iranified.

but there is no proof of iranificatoin. the scythians had no writing system, no country to conquer, nothing that someone could change.  there is no way that the scythians could have been iranified. 

and by the way, herodotus wasnt thousands of miles away from them. the scytians did inhabit easter europe and asia minor.

also, i did some research on scythian symbols, the crscent and the star does not seem to be included in them, and we all know that the turkic tribes of the steppe used that symbol as part of their religion. so if the scythians were turkic, we would assume that they would also have used that symbol, but that is not the case.

all the iranic tribes that came out of central asia and the steppe region had one thing in common, to my knowledge, known of them used to crescent and the star as religous symbols. the same goes with the scythians.

i could be wrong, because i just did some quick research, i'll leave it for you to decided whether you believe me or not, if not, then do your own research.

so lets discuss teh origion of scythians from another angle. if they werent iranic, then what were they, and with what evidence?

http://www.livius.org/sao-sd/sassanids/sassanid_kings.html

here are Sassanid Kings, look at latter coins, all have the crescent and star.  This was easiest for me to find, but I know it has been used by sumerians etc, as there have been threads on this subject before.

Things which Turks claim Turkish but are actually Iranian:

1) Mevlana (A citizen of a Turkish empire of Iranian origin.)
2) Carpet (Invented by Iranians, but the technique was mainly developed by Turko-Iranian co-operation)
3) Sakas, mainly the Scythians who are the western Sakas. (IN reality Some Sakas are Turkish, some are Iranian.)
4) Soghdians (definetely 100% Iranian)

Things which Iranians claim Iranian but are actually Turkish:

1) Azeris (Yes some are converted and assimilated Iranians, but this will not make them Iranian at all.)
2) Safavids (Pure 100% Turkish, even against Ottomans, they used the propoganda, Turks against the ROmans. Safavids formed their army from Turkomans of Khurasan.)
3) Afsarids (Pure Turkish again.)
4) Qajars (Turkish)

this is my point

actually, rumi fled the mongol invasion in the east and went to a town in the west of persia, which is now part of turkey, but at the time was still part of persia.

no one claims the safavids, qajars, azari's, etc...

they are turkic definetly. but the point is that they were an iranic people (or someone else), who were turkified and are now turkic, and will probably remain turkic.  therefore, safavids qajars and azari's are turk.

you are confused about the difference between "claiming" and "wanting to know about origions".

and we iranians dont have to claim the qajars and the safavids, because they themselves did the job for us, they considered themselves as part of Iran, and just another dynasty in the many dynasties that ruled Iran.

more sources (i did some research):

In regards to the Scythians:

stop trolling you pan iranist.

i have talked to turkish forumers about you before oslonor. you are a racist anti turk supramacist pan iranist. stop trolling.

Something new:

While we find huge number of stone mans that made by Saks(scynthian) only in north part of Tengri mountains(Tien shan),and archeologic facts found in Ili vally as below:

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Bronze figure of Saka period unearthed in Tukkuztara(Gongliu) county

Gold mask unearthed at Boma ancient cemetery, Mongolkure(Zhaosu) county

Open-work bronze plate on stand with human figures and sheep, Saka period, unearthed in Narat, Kunes(Xinyuan) county

Qiute interestingly there are also lot of names of places related to Saks in south part of Tengri mountains,e.g. villages name such as Tukkuzak(old times as Tukkuzsak)---means nine sak ,Oghuzsak---oghuz sak.These are very old villages close to Kashgar city in East Turkistan.And the people there claim that their ancestors called Sak.