Hazara and Pan-Turk

 

The pics I posted were all taken in Bamiyan and Yakawlang in different times. Are you from Sydney khel?

      

 this another old pic by the time of panjdhe crisis on our nation when british where pushing the pushthoons into afghanistan to destroy hazara. my be its also  from 1878-1890.

 

  this one is the oldest pic of hazara tribe i have found. looks like painting but it was taken with a old camera

http://www.tagged.com/photo_view.html?photoId=95216273&uid=213370885#state=2_0    

 

this was our castle in kabul

 

You might not mean trouble, but please be careful while saying something like "Pushtuni and Islamic attempts to destroy Hazara people." We don't need ethnic hate wars here.

 

Please remaind friendly and respectful towards the other members (we do have Afghans and Pusthuns in this forum).

 

Hazara people are Muslims BTW, so your statement about Islamic attempts to destroy them doesn't make much sense.

 

Thank you.

"Oymaq" is exactly the way you explained. I can't put it into correct words either!

 

In Turkmen also, 'ayir-maq' and 'oy-maq' are two different verbs. We just haven't got 'aymaq'. You know, Turkmen is, as far as I know, the only Turkic language that uses vowel length (and a few more techniques, like shifting between vowels or adding a consonant) to distinguish two very similar, different stems:

 

almost everyone in Turkic says "ot" (grass) and "ot" (fire) or "bar" (to go, to reach) and "bar" (there is), for instance, in the same way. But Turkmen, here, uses the vowel length to differentiate two stems that were different in the Proto tongue, but is now almost the same.

 

There was, for sure, a lost vowel or consonant among either the first "ot" or the second one, but Turkic has lost it over time. Turkmen, although can't determine it exactly (or maybe it was really the vowel length), but reveals this by differentiating them, now let's say, by vowel length.

 

You can even find examples to avoid being rude! This might seem funny, but in Turkmen, Turkic "am-raq" is pronounced "ham-raq" to avoid sounding like "am" which is impolite, you know.

 

In Turkmen, there's no word with two or more meanings. That's why I was just wondering if 'ayirmaq' and 'oy-maq' are of the same origin; because in Turkmen, it should be then "ay-maq".

 

Anyhow, I'm not sure. You might be right.

 

"Yer oyulty" = (I don't know how to put into right words in English! But) The earth got opened (in an earthquake, for instance).

 

"oyuq, oyuq" = pieces and pieces

 

In Uyghur Turkic we use "Uruq-Aymaq", meaning the clans. "Uruq" originally meaning "Seed".  "Aymaq" might came from the word "Ayrimaq" meaning "deviding".