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    Posted: 18-Feb-2009 at 14:23
Originally posted by jankhan

whatever i said did you named it politacal propaganda? as if it hurted you sorry man/
 
You didn't hurt me. You hurt the rules of the forum. Just follow the rules. And there won't be any problems.
 
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Berar! Of course Hazaras are Hazaras and I'm glad you think that way, but we belong to a bigger group called Altaic race. Technically, Hazara isn't even a tribe. Its a unity of many tribes. We have over 20 different tribes who belong to this unity. We are Turk and Mongol, mixed, and thats important to us. If you take our religion and our idenity, we simply don't exist. So let's stick to it like we've always been brother!
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whatever i said did you named it politacal propaganda? as if it hurted you sorry man/
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I m Hazara. Some people say hazara are mongol some say relative to uyghur. but i don't agree with that concepts, hazara is hazara. don't have long history we are new in this world. what ever our anncestors were we are not we are only hazara.
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Hazara of Afganistan aren't the same with the Ancient Khazars of Eastern Europe.
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    ofcourse hazara aren't same with khazars of eastern Europe.
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Sorry sarmat i just wanted to honor your leader.... other wise what am i gonna do with turkish current affairs.... long live history forum...
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Originally posted by jankhan

Yes All those name are recognized. Turkish people of Turkey must be lead by ottomans. may ottoman not be friend with israel. Long Live PM of Turkey.

 
Jankhan, this is a historical thread, and not the place for disseminating political propaganda.
 
If you want to discuss Turkish-Israeli relations, please next time post in "Current Affairs" or "The Minefield" subforum.
 
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Originally posted by MythTR

Hazaras are Turkish People, and Hazar Country (HAZAR DEVLETI) is the most lifely country. I meant that : There were a lot of Turkish people like huns, uygurs, göktürks etc.. but Hazars are most long lived.

You can see it from here, I think you will understand more clearly . Thank you!
 
büyük hun imparatorluğu
batı hun imparatorluğu
avrupa hun imparatorluğu
ak hun imparatorluğu
göktürk imparatorluğu
avar imparatorluğu
hazar imparatorluğu
uygur devleti
karahanlılar
gazneliler
büyük selçuk imparatorluğu
harzemşahlar
altınordu devleti
büyük timur imparatorluğu
babür imparatorluğu
osmanlı imparatorluğu (ottoman)
 
the names are Turkish, but you can understand.
 
Hazara of Afganistan aren't the same with the Ancient Khazars of Eastern Europe.


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Yes All those name are recognized. Turkish people of Turkey must be lead by ottomans. may ottoman not be friend with israel. Long Live PM of Turkey.
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Hazaras are Turkish People, and Hazar Country (HAZAR DEVLETI) is the most lifely country. I meant that : There were a lot of Turkish people like huns, uygurs, göktürks etc.. but Hazars are most long lived.

You can see it from here, I think you will understand more clearly . Thank you!
 
büyük hun imparatorluğu
batı hun imparatorluğu
avrupa hun imparatorluğu
ak hun imparatorluğu
göktürk imparatorluğu
avar imparatorluğu
hazar imparatorluğu
uygur devleti
karahanlılar
gazneliler
büyük selçuk imparatorluğu
harzemşahlar
altınordu devleti
büyük timur imparatorluğu
babür imparatorluğu
osmanlı imparatorluğu (ottoman)
 
the names are Turkish, but you can understand.
We Turks are a people who throughout our history have been the very embodiment of freedom&independence
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Firstly, Hazaras are Shia, Sunni and Ismaili Muslims, not just Shia.

Secondly, there are two Turkoman tribes in Afghanistan. Turkomans who reside on the Turkoman mountain in Hazarajat belong to Hazara. They live very close to Qul Khesh and Besud Hazaras. The non-Hazara Turkomans are the one who live up north in Khinjan and around Mazar-e-Sharif.
 
Wherever I find wrong info about my people, I will be there to correct it. I wouldn't give you wrong information about my people, Afghanan.
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Yeah brother we are all brothers doesn't matter shia or sunni, hazara or non hazara. our faces feature and body structure proves that we are brother with all central asians. and we dream of family reunion. Inshalla.
 
 
My introduction: I m Jan and I am from Ghazni Provence. 
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Originally posted by Sarmat

Dear participants of the thread,
 
Please allow me to make a reminder about All Empires Code of Conduct. According to it, ethnic thrive and wars are not allowed on this forum.
 
Nothing serious has happened here yet. But I, as a moderator, just want to prevent any possible problems in this regard in the future.
 
Please remain respectful to each other and continue friendly discussion.
 
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Dear participants of the thread,
 
Please allow me to make a reminder about All Empires Code of Conduct. According to it, ethnic thrive and wars are not allowed on this forum.
 
Nothing serious has happened here yet. But I, as a moderator, just want to prevent any possible problems in this regard in the future.
 
Please remain respectful to each other and continue friendly discussion.
 
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First off,   its Hazaras that are making pictures of "Ancient" Hazaras who created the Buddhas of Bamian when it is well known that they had nothing to do with it. 

2nd of all, Aimaq and Turcomans do not consider themselves Hazara.  THey do not even speak Hazaragi Farsi.  Most Hazaras in Afghanistan are Shia, Turcomans and Aimaq are Sunnis. 
 
Those pictures you posted are over 20 years old, and from a time when Aimaq and Turcoman nomads travelled to Bamian and setup their Yurts. 
 
I'm not against Hazaras, but at least don't throw out inaccuracies about the Hazaras.
 
 
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I think others know more about Hazaras than you, so there is no need for your concern Afghanan. Besides Hazara is made up of more than 40 tribes, including Turkoman and Aimag. There is no such thing as a Hazara tribe, its a confederation of many Altaic tribes. You will make more sense if you learn before you talk.
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Thanks bro. By the way, it would be great if you can post more photos like that one. Its beautiful, you can see their tents in the background.
 
Here are some more pics of Hazara tents
 
 
 
These are not Hazara tents.  These are Turcoman and Aimaq tents in Hazarajat.  They used to migrated to Hazarajat and build their yurts.  I'm not sure if they still do this anymore in Hazarajat.
 
 
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Yes TAMER LANE, we are all brothers!
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Hazara mongol or turk won't make any claim for Turks on lands of Iranian people in the future.
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