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TMPikachu 
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Joined: 14-Aug-2004 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 154 |
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 Topic: Mordor vs Tang ChinaPosted: 17-Dec-2004 at 21:01 |
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Mordor, at the time of the 3 books/movies. vs Tang China, under the rule of Tang Tai-tsung (I think that's how you spell it...)
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Gubook Janggoon
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Posted: 17-Dec-2004 at 22:35 |
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Hahahahaa...Mordor..if they get the ring...plus they got those giant troll thingys.
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Tobodai
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Posted: 18-Dec-2004 at 02:18 |
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no Tang China would definately win. Morodor is weak in cavalry so the Tang armored horse could route them from teh field and outflank them. There arent enough of those worg things to make a difference. Plus Taizong is clearly a better ruler than Sauron.
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"the people are nothing but a great beast...
I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value." -Alexander Hamilton |
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mongke
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Joined: 02-Dec-2004 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 105 |
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Posted: 20-Dec-2004 at 16:02 |
Totally agree. Urukhai that Saruman created were slaughtered by the King Theoden's cavalry. These Urukhai were better than the orcs of mordor. Come to think of it, I think Romans would have kicked their butts too. |
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demon
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Posted: 20-Dec-2004 at 17:49 |
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Wai wai wait....Remeber the Ogres? How would China fight that? And those Oliphants (assuming that the mercenaries are under mordor)? |
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Grrr..
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Tobodai
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Posted: 20-Dec-2004 at 18:02 |
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well those mercenaries are kinda middle-easterny, and Tang china could beat the turks pretty well...as for combating the larger creatures, giant ballista sized crossbows would work, as would importing thier own elephants from Burma. god, this is such an awesome topic
and anyway, if one fruity elf who cant act can take out a whole oliphant crew well then tang china shouldnt have a problem... |
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"the people are nothing but a great beast...
I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value." -Alexander Hamilton |
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Vamun Tianshu
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Posted: 20-Dec-2004 at 22:17 |
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Thats funny,I say Tang China.Mordor's Army is too unorganized and the Orcs are too ridged and untrustworthy to one another,and could kill eachother at any given time.Even with the Haradrim(Mumakil Riders)and the Easterlings helping the Orcs,along with the Wargs,Tang China might have a chance.But the Mountain Trolls,now thats a different story entirely!
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Gubook Janggoon
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Posted: 21-Dec-2004 at 11:07 |
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And how are the Chinese going to deal with the Ring Wraiths? |
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Temujin
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Posted: 21-Dec-2004 at 16:34 |
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well, in the movie the orc-hoplites were charged by those unarmorued Viking style cavalry, so if a phalanx from Mordor can't even stand a chance against a cavalry charge then it's worth nothing!
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Guests
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Posted: 21-Dec-2004 at 17:37 |
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Tang might have a chance if they had the archers like Qin's and those martial art heroes in "Hero" and "House of the flying daggers" Edited by nike |
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demon
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Posted: 21-Dec-2004 at 17:50 |
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Lol....nike, you are funny :) Bah...I would bring 100 Oliphants right in front of the gate to Beijing and make a pk battle with all Chinese men in horses like another Morder vs Riders of Rohan battle...Should be pretty entertaining stepping over the horses :p But better watch out for the ballistas! |
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Grrr..
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mongke
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Posted: 24-Dec-2004 at 09:28 |
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The army of mordor are primarily infantry army.
Cavalry will kick their butts. The mountain trolls are too
slow and the ring wraith are too few.
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Imperator Invictus
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Posted: 24-Dec-2004 at 13:48 |
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Yeah I thought the uruk hai phalanx vs. viking cavalry scene was kinda sad. But the decisive factor was the lack of sunglasses.
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Belisarius
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Posted: 25-Dec-2004 at 09:10 |
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Tang China would crush Mordor. The Chinese are superior in technology, organization, and numbers. Oliphaunts and trolls would be a problem, but would eventually be brought down by crossbows, or perhaps siege equipment.
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babyblue
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Posted: 25-Dec-2004 at 21:48 |
yeah go to beijing during Tang times and you might be able to find a few farmers to play around with...lol Edited by babyblue |
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Jorsalfar
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Posted: 08-Jan-2005 at 15:37 |
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Mordor would win. The Tang chinese did not have Westernesse blades to kill the Nazguls. |
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Degredado
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Posted: 12-Jan-2005 at 12:25 |
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There's one thing you guys are forgetting. Sauron could have had in his grasp an ally that would knock out any foe. Sadly, he got killed by King Bard. By the way, how would the chinese behave against Morgoth's army? Edited by Degredado |
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Vou votar nas putas. Estou farto de votar nos filhos delas
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Jorsalfar
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Posted: 12-Jan-2005 at 15:52 |
Didnt Morgoth have Balrogs?The chinese did not have any Gandalfs |
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Tobodai
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Posted: 12-Jan-2005 at 19:10 |
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They could just shoot over some confucianist pamphlets to bore them to death.
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"the people are nothing but a great beast...
I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value." -Alexander Hamilton |
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Bryan
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Posted: 13-Jan-2005 at 00:16 |
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Actually, most of the Balrogs had been slain before the time of the War of the Ring. And about the Orcs being unorganized... well, they weren't totally unorganized, and they didn't necesarilly fight amongst themselves, especially when the higher ups gave them orders. Tang might have a decent chance. Now, if this were the Tang versus the armies of Melkor, the Dark Lord, during the First Age, I'd say that the Tang would have little chance.
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