Arab and spanish

            2) Lack of detail � this can be seen in the above extracts where no invasion entry point is mentioned. If it was to do so, the article could only rely on primary sources which clearly state that the Saracens landed not in Spain in the 8^th century but landed in Southern France, from the island of Al-Andalusa (Sardinia), at the province called Septemia near Provence, France. It was in this region that the Saracens were defeated by Charles Martel (732 AD).

But of course this version of events, which happens to be the real recorded history, would stick out like a sore thumb to those who wish to propagate the self-serving fantasy of Spain being under Muslim control from the 8^th century � a complete lie with not historical foundation whatsoever.

It sticks out like a sore thumb because the primary source document details how they were Saracens, not Moors. The importance of this is that it furthers the point that the Arab invasions came from the east � where Al-Andalus the island was and not from the south where Spain is. That�s why many modern articles rebadge the word Saracens to the word Moors, they do this to deceive the reader into thinking the Arab invasions of Southern France occurred from the south, in other words Spain itself and that�s where according to the fantasy the Arabs finally retreated.

Well this is simply a lie. The primary source documents clearly indicate the Saracens came in 730 AD from the east by boat, from Al-Andalus the island and that�s where they retreated to when they were defeated by Charles Martel.

This is backed up by other historical documents of the time which record the east-west movements of the Saracens as they took over parts of southern Italy such as Sicily and Sardinia and even attacked cities like Genoa near the French border.

It�s only logical that they then move towards southern France where they are recorded as landing in the region of Septem and Provence.

The source document records a ship landing at Septem in southern France and not the imaginary fantasy landing in southern Spain propagated by some modern authors where by a fantastic miracle the entire nation of Spain was in one clean sweep under Moorish rule without even one battle.

3)    Intermixing of unrelated events further confuses the reader and disguises the articles� fantasies. An example of this is the sudden shift from the 8^th century to the 10^th century and an even faster jump to the 13^th century.

There�s not one historical document which records an 8^th century Arab, let them be Saracens or Moors, landing in Spain but only in Southern France where they were defeated by Charles Martel.

4)     Theory based without supporting evidence � this can be seen by the words �The Vandals may have given their name� with an emphasis on the word �may�. Anything �may� be true and then again �may� be not! Take your pick because it�s just fantasy.

Then we have �which according to one of several theories� which proves my claim that it�s just self-serving �theories� aimed at making a certain fantasy seem real. Theories are just that � theories and not reality.

If there were real evidence of an 8^th century Arab landing in Spain, authors would not have to rely on theories and rebadging like they do above.

If one can rebadge a whole nation without any historical foundation then one can fantasize all they want. But it�s just that � a fantasy.

5)   No primary sources provided � needless to say, not one primary source document has been provided.

You know why? It�s simple, fantasy authors can never provide primary source documents because no such documents exist in the first place. This is why they are forced to rebadge and interchange the meanings of names.

Is it not astounding that for all the hoo haa about a supposed 711 AD Arab landing in Southern Spain no one has ever bothered referencing a primary source document to back up the claim much less even show us one?

Interesting how we�re never shown any primary source document which lists the Arab governors and where they were centered during their supposed Spanish occupation in the 8^th century. Yes, we�re shown lists of governors from their presence on the other Iberia � modern Armenia but never anything from continental Spain.

I mean, who was the 8^th century Arab governor of the Spanish city of Gades, the largest city of Southern Spain right near the straights, and where is this primary source document to be found?

No one is able to answer this simple question but we�re asked nevertheless to accept that Al-Andalus, an island in the Mediterranean, is supposed to be the entire nation of modern Spain.

Who were these governors from the period (750-929) mentioned above and more importantly where are these primary source documents to be found? No one knows.

Fact 1: There�s not one primary source document which records an 8^th century    Arab Muslim, let it be Moors or Saracens, landing anywhere in Spain.

Fact 2: There�s not one primary source document which records any Arab governorships of any city of Spain during the 8^th, 9^th, 10^th and 11^th centuries.

Fact 3: The Saracen Arabs invaded from the east where they overtook the Italian islands of Sicily, Sardinia, the cities of Genoa, Pisa and finally landed by ship at Septem, southern France in and around 730 AD where they were met and defeated by Charles Martel.

6)      Misinformation � the fact remains that the 8^th century Al-Andalus mentioned by the Arab historians was an island in the Mediterranean. This small but nevertheless important detail is all too often left out of many articles like the ones above.

Spain was never called Vandalia and there was never any Vandal region in Spain called Vandalia. Vandalia describes a region where the Vandals were allowed to live within the Roman Empire and this was in the region of Sicily and Southern Italy before a portion of them crossed over from Southern Italy into Northern Africa, where they remained as lords for quite some time. The Alani had also joined them.

It�s in these regions while the Saracens were moving from the east towards the west that they encountered the regions once named Vandalia and therefore their possible translation Al-Andalus.

It had nothing to do with modern Spain. The genuine Arab invasions of southern Spain occurred much later in the 12-13^th centuries where they were defeated by the Christian kings and the region of Granada became a Muslim vassal to the Catholic kings till they were conquered in 1493 AD.

Here�s a small example of how they�ve confused Iberia � Armenia with Iberia Spain.

�Conquest remained a remarkable preoccupation. In 756-757AD came an invasion of Asia Minor, a capture of Malatiya, a defeat of the Byzantines in Cilicia which was followed by a seven years' truce with the emperor. The western Omayyad caliphate was founded in 756. In 756, Abd ar-Rahman I defeated the Abbaside emirs, and founded his kingdom at Cordova. His reign meant constant warfare and he had to suppress many revolts. By 762AD the Abbasid dynasty ruling Iraq had decided on Baghdad its capital - meaning that Baghdad remained the capital of the Islamic Caliphate.�