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About the airforce bulgarians were first to use plane as a bomber in a real military actions.And we used it against ottomans in the siege of Odrin.
    

Edited by Desimir - 17-Sep-2006 at 06:37

Desimir what is your problem with "the Ottoman"?

Your comparison of Turkey and Bulgaria is ridiculous.We have an important airforce and lots of armored stuff, we can produce our own artillery and repair our tanks and planes.

When it comes land force and infantry Turkey shows its best already.

I will say that americans are those who use foreign technologies and sell a poor copies to their muslims allies.During the cold war soviets sold perfect weapons.Bulgaria had balistic missiles SS-23 with range above 500km.Turkey never had such a weapons.And my friend i will add that SS-23 missiles were very powerful and we have enough to destroy every turkish base in europe part of turkey including whole istanbul.
    

Edited by Desimir - 17-Sep-2006 at 06:04

saudi arabia is nothing.Pakistan has nukes and tactical nukes are real big deal but pakistan hasnt got tactical nukes anyway.Iran will have nukes in 5 years so pakistan is sifted.Iran is strong but Iranian army contains many azeris so in a war against Turkey,Iran would be disgraced.Iran produces her own war equipment but those equipment are bad copies of Chinese which are bad copies of Russian which are bad copies of US.and Turkey uses NATO equipment and they have the second best commandos in the world.and in a highland like Iran or eastern Turkey,the battlefield would be the hell on earth for Iran.
   ( may be checenistan will never be founded my bulgarian friend,but you can be sure that Chechens are kicking some Russian as.es. )

I don't know about that. Nobody really praises the pakistani navy or army in international publications so the army is probably nothing special but the paki air force send chills down everyone's spines. The navy has what..4 subs total?

And this nuclear sub seems pointless. Why have it? They are supposed to be noisier than deisel subs and with such a small coastline to defend and no "imperial" power projection on the agenda having nuke subs sounds completely pointless and perhaps even harmful. When it comes to subs the name of the game is stealth in sub to sub combat.

I am not sure nukes are the only reason pakistan is powerful. The Pakistani Air force is supposed to be amongst the best in the world and have recorded an overwhelming kill ratio against the Soviets and the Israelis. Before this they did quite well against the Indian Air force as well. In modern warfare the Army is least important and the Air force is most important so I would say that makes Pakistan rank higher than Iran in military might. Now the Iranian economy is a lot stronger because of rolling in oil revenue for decades but the Pakistani economy has twice as many people and a lot of (military)"handouts" given to it from the Saudis and the US.  

And the supplies...that's the key. Where are you going to find the enriched uranium?

In terms of influence, Iran is definitely on the rise, Saudi Arabia on the decline, and Turkey not worth much. When the USA invaded Iraq they messed up the "balance of power" by removing Saddam, who was practically the only person who could keep the Shia in check. With him gone, Iran is going rampant (witness their nuke program.) Saudi Arabia has good influence over the states surrounding its east and south, and partially on Jordan, but without any counterbalance Iran is growing powerful very quickly.

nukes are nothing in war.they are for politics.

1. t�rkiye ottoman empire
2. iran
3. algeria  fighting with honours again the french how have more modern weapons than algeria
4. my brothers, pakistan
5. the new state cecenistan

T�rkiye of course,but kazakhstan have economic potential...