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Were Kereyits Turkic or mongol?

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    Posted: 09-Sep-2006 at 05:18
Were Kereyits Turkic?Or they were mongol?I didn't see any proof about they are mongol or Trk,can you show me?
I also want to know naymans(naimans) and merkits.Who were they?
 
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  Quote galvatron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Sep-2006 at 23:56
i see some chinese resources say naimans was the modern today kyrgystan people ,the rest are mostly become part of mongol people of today .
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  Quote Akskl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Sep-2006 at 01:11
They all were Turkic speaking nomads - today parts of modern Kazakhs (see www.elim.kz). Read Paul Ratchnevsky "Genghis Khan - His Life and Legacy" for example, or Rene Grousset "Empire of the Steppes", J.J.Saunders, and many others.

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Keraits
East of the Naimans, from the Orkhon River in the west to the Onon and Kerulen rivers, was the new home of the Keraits. This is a group of people that had been disputed by Tao Zongyi (T'ao Tsung-i 1316- ?) to be Mongols, but Rashid ad-Din placed them in a subgroup with the Naimans, Uygurs, Kirghiz, Kipchaks and other Turkic peoples while acknowledging the resemblances between the Keraits and the Mongols. Still one more Chinese, Tu Ji, in his "History of the Mongols" (Mengwuer Shiji), assumed that the Keraits were Turkic and originated from Turkic Kangli and Ghuzz and their language was Turkic. It was also said that an important Kirghiz tribe bears the name of Kirai, which is equivalent to Kerait. As to their Mongol characteristics, Paul Ratchnevscky assumed that some Khitans were left behind and got assimiliated into the Keraits. Paul Ratchnevsky emphasized the amicableness between the Keraits and West Khitans as exemplified by the fact that Kerait's khan, Toghrul, had once sought refuge in Western Liao. Paul Ratchnevsky mentioned that the Keraits accepted Nestorian faith and that the grandfather and father of Toghrul had Latin names like Marghus (Markus) and Qurjaquz (Kyriakus).
 
Yisugei had helped Kerait chieftan, Toghrul, twice. Toghrul was resented by his tribesmen for killing his brothers. When Toghrul was defeated by his uncle and fled with few hundreds of horsemen, Yisugei would come to his aid and drive Toghrul's uncle to Tanguts' Western Xia territory. Later, Toghrul's brother rebelled as well, and Toghrul had to flee southwestward to the three statelets of 'Hexi', 'Huihu' and 'Huihui' (Uygur, Qiangic and Tibetan territories) for asylum. Thereafter, Toghrul sought asylum with the Kara Khitans. When Toghrul escaped back to Mongolia, Timuchin would give him a good reception and treat Toghrul as 'father'. Timuchin later defeated the Merkits and gave the captured people to Toghrul. Toghrul hence gained strength. Toghrul and Timuchin cooperated few times in fighting the Naimans thereafter.
 
The importance of Keraits would lie in the fact that Timuchin sought the protection under Toghrul and their alliance laid the foundation for the uprise of the Mengwu Mongols. Toghrul enjoyed a title called Wang Khan conferred by the Jurchens and hence an alliance with Toghrul served the purpose of elelvating Timuchin's position among the nomads. After exterminating the Tatars in AD 1202, Timuchin broke with Toghrul's Keraits, and Genghis Kan killed Toghrul in AD 1203 and took over Kerait throne.

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