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Lahore was not a Hindu city. Not now not ever. It had a large Sikh population, but thats about all.

Originally posted by Vedam Originally posted by Sparten Lahore was not a Hindu city. Not now not ever. It had a large Sikh population, but thats about all.   So tell me what do you think Punjab and Sind were before Islam and Sikhism, was it just Vacant. No one there? These surnames Bhatti, Chauhan, Rana, Raja, Sial, Sethi they dont sound very muslim to me.

30 % in 1947. Sources please. And no Hiduvta ones kindly neutral ones, like UNHCR. The only place in Pakistan where you had hindus (and still do) in any large number was Sindh. Most of the refugees from Pakistan were Sikhs in the Punjab.

Originally posted by Sparten 30 % in 1947. Sources please. And no Hiduvta ones kindly neutral ones, like UNHCR. The only place in Pakistan where you had hindus (and still do) in any large number was Sindh. Most of the refugees from Pakistan were Sikhs in the Punjab.

First provide a UNHCR source for your claims ?

Originally posted by Vivek Sharma The hindu population of pakistan in 47 was 30 % & yes Lahore had a  large no. of Sikhs, who are Indians.

Edited by TeldeInduz - 27-Oct-2006 at 13:40

Yes most of the Punjabi Hindus did go to India and New Delhi received by far the largest influx of refugees, as it is the capital. Prior to partition it was muslim city but inturn muslims left for Pakistan especially Karachi and lahore(including your president Musharraf who was from my area in Delhi). Between 1941 and 1951 the population of Delhi doubled, because of the Refugees - the punjabi hindus 

Edited by Vedam - 28-Oct-2006 at 14:32

Originally posted by Vedam   but in a book about partition i read that Lahore had 500,00 hindus before Partition and less than 1000 after.

Listen Maqsad you said if "there are so many Punjabi Hindus where are they, since Punjab is 90% sikh.... They must have converted to Islam and not cared about their religion during Partition"....WRONG WRONG WRONG.

You asked "where are the punjabi Hindus" so i told you TWICE that the punjabi Hindus, all mainly headed towards the big cities the main one being NEW DELHI, which has become a punjabi Hindu city. And that's where they are, they didn't dissapear off the face of the earth!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited by Vedam - 29-Oct-2006 at 09:07

Originally posted by Vedam Listen Maqsad you said if "there are so many Punjabi Hindus where are they, since Punjab is 90% sikh.... They must have converted to Islam and not cared about their religion during Partition"....WRONG WRONG WRONG.

I was addressing a claim made that 1/3 of pakistanis were hindus right before partition. I was debunking that claim.

Originally posted by Vedam And now you talk to me about CLAIMS and backing it up.Talk about misinformation.

Yes I am asking you or anyone else to back up the claim of hindus that 30% of west pakistan was hindu before partition.

Originally posted by Vedam You asked "where are the punjabi Hindus" so i told you TWICE that the punjabi Hindus, all mainly headed towards the big cities the main one being NEW DELHI, which has become a punjabi Hindu city. And that's where they are, they didn't dissapear off the face of the earth!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You seem to have had some comprehension problems. My question REALLY MEANT where are the 15 million punjabi hindus if they ever existed in that large amount. Don't you get it? I mean its so simple--the sarcasm and the challenge.

Originally posted by Vedam Now with regards to me backing up the assertion that "Pakistan was 30% Hindu before partition and claiming to be up on History and maths" Well get your FACTS straight, i dont even know what you are saying, I never made such a claim, as you can't have Pakistan before 1947, because it didn't exist. I think you probably mean West punjab pre-partition. And i NEVER said it was 30% Hindu.

Well if you never said it then either deny its true or back it up, why are you whining about it so much? One of your fellow revivionists here made that claim if you bothered to actually read this thread then that should be very very clear to you!

Originally posted by Vedam Why should i provide numbers when i never gave you those STATS? Why should i have to back up something i never said. I tell you what though- why don't you provide some numbers that India Punjab is  90% Sikh, since you are obviously up on history and maths, Why don't you actually back up your baseless comments?

I don't care if the population of sikhs in panjab is 60% or 75% or 90% so there is no reason for me to back it up. The fact is Indian govt was constantly changing the province boundaries of Haryana and Himachal Pradesh and Indian Panjab in response to Sikh panjabi sentiments but thats irrelevent because I am not making any claims about muslims "dissapearing" from Indian panjab but one of the Indians here was talking nonsense about 1/3 of West Pakistan being hindu before partition. Thats the issue! Not how many Sikhs are in India!

Originally posted by Vedam   I never made any comments about the  PUNJABI Muslim population, YET YOU SEEM TO BE AN EXPERT on hindu punjabis  and Sikhs, in your own opinion that is, otherwise you would not have made such comments, that are totally off AND NUMBERS ARE TOTALLY WRONG. Do some research about Punjabi Hindus and their numbers before making any further comments.

Just answer the simple question instead of going around in circles. Was 1/3 of west pakistani population hindu just before partition? If you answer yes then show me where those people went. If you answer no then its another nonsensical fairy tale made up by hindus. Its that simple. And don't side track on non issues to avoid the real topic.

Originally posted by Sparten In the 1965 war there were officers on both sides who attacked there old hometowns.