If Rome never existed

Yes we would still be advanced as we are now without Romans, how did romans spread cililization when they were the last ancients? they took their cues from the ones before them. i hear rome was so advanced but yet other civilizations had great built buildings that we still dont know how they managed to do so early on, there was already running toiliets in houses and plumbing systems to get water to and from before romans, the Minoans of crete had it. there was already towns, cities. why they let romans take the credit i dont know, maybe they think it could not happen earlier before. didnt romans work with archemides to help them out? and medicine, science, philosophy, languages was already there in other civilizations. to say its the basis of modern civilization is wrong because others had that credit first and are said to. i doubt much would have changed actually.. washington is modeled after greek buildings, not colusseum. maybe wars and conquoring with romans would be different but romans dont still conquor greece, egypt and i dont see much imprint there, alexandria is a greek city. and christianity was brought by jesus and the real holy place, not rome and vatican. so i doubt much would have drastically changed at all.. unless romans invented the first football style stadium? is that their accompilishment? but the theater they didnt invent.

 

basically to me it would be one less empire, and they did not spread civilization, and i dont think many countries maybe western europe? take after rome, but eastern was always greek, and they went west too. anyway im always hearing britain and greece left imprints. so yes i dont think much would be different at all. the question is where would rome be without greece, there would be no senate inventions would there.. to go along with democracy? hmm