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Ancient Chinese immigrants in the caves!

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    Posted: 27-Nov-2004 at 10:38

I had posted it in our previous forum but I think we can discuss about it again, it is really interesting that not in the east but in the north west of Iran, there is a chinese monument. We don't know who built it and when but everything says that it is Chinese!

Its area is about 400 m in lenght and 300 m in width.

Three artificial caves have been excavated at the heart of mountain and they are so many beautiful engravings in each cave that almost all of them have a chinese origin.

Among them, the most beautiful one is the 3.5 m dragons which have been inscribed opposite to each other symmetrically, whenas Iranians view the dragons as symbols of tyranny and injustice and have always fought against this mythical creature, the Chinese have made these dragons to attract welfare, bliss and to safeguard them.

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  Quote cattus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Nov-2004 at 10:44
damn vandals, ..never heard of this.What is it dated to?
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  Quote Gubook Janggoon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Nov-2004 at 13:12
Wow that dragon is really intricate.  Yes what is the time frame?
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  Quote cattus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Nov-2004 at 00:45
yes Gabukjanggoon very, imagine what it originaly looked like.     More info,did you take these Cyrus?
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  Quote coolstorm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Nov-2004 at 03:18

That's interesting. What time period does the monument belong to?



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  Quote Cyrus Shahmiri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Nov-2004 at 09:47

One possibility is that they came Iran during mongol period, so it may be built about 700 years ago.

did you take these Cyrus?

No!

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  Quote Gubook Janggoon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Nov-2004 at 14:05
Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri

One possibility is that they came Iran during mongol period, so it may be built about 700 years ago.

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So would that be the Yuan?
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  Quote coolstorm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Nov-2004 at 14:48
If they went during the Mongol period, yes it would be the Yuan.
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  Quote ChineseManchurian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Nov-2004 at 15:56
it would never be Yuan, Yuan's technology can make the drogon a lot more better than that, it should be like Tang dynasty.

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  Quote hansioux Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Nov-2004 at 04:23
By the style of the dragon, i would tend to say it is of Tang or earlier origin as well.  This dragon looks more like the Han period dragons.  I am pretty sure after Soong the dragon look more and more ugly.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Nov-2004 at 04:29

Cyrus Shahmiri:

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  Quote heyamigos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Aug-2012 at 06:31
I have heard about this.  They used carbon dating to trace it back 2,000 years ago.  It must be around the time of Ashkani (Parthian) or Sassanian when they had good trading relations with Han Dynasty China.  China always had a curiousity with Persians and Romans back then.  Maybe this was a trading post for silk back then?
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