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bg_turk
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Topic: A former Premier of Macedonia: I am a bul Posted: 11-Aug-2006 at 16:34 |
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The Chargemaster
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Posted: 11-Aug-2006 at 17:13 |
Originally posted by bg_turk
my problem is with those that try to make people seem Bulgairan against their will. |
So you have`nt any problems with the bulgarian ethnic belonging of Ljubcho Georgievski. Is that right?
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bg_turk
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Posted: 11-Aug-2006 at 17:18 |
Originally posted by The Chargemaster
Originally posted by bg_turk
my problem is with those that try to make people seem Bulgairan against their will. |
So you have`nt any problems with the bulgarian ethnic belonging of Ljubcho Georgievski. Is that right?
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Who am I to question the Bulgarianness of Ljubcho Georgievski if he has declared himself Bulgarian in the first place.
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Isbul
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Posted: 11-Aug-2006 at 17:42 |
I wonder how much he waited to get this bulgarian citizenship.Afaik the procedure to prove your bulgarian root is slow and clumsy
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The Chargemaster
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Posted: 11-Aug-2006 at 17:53 |
Originally posted by Subotai
Afaik the procedure to prove your bulgarian root is slow and clumsy |
That`s true. Our government must work better to facilitate that procedure.
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Anton
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Posted: 12-Aug-2006 at 13:28 |
BG_Turk, Macedonians may be whatever they want to be indeed. And have all rights to their selfdetermination and history. But the funny thing is that most of historical personalities that they respect (except Alexander the Great) call themselves Bulgarians from Macedonia. Miladinovi brothers with their Bulgarian songs is probably a good example. So, if they want to biuld a paralel history they are welcome. But they a really boring claming that we steal their history.
Edited by Anton - 12-Aug-2006 at 16:12
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bg_turk
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Posted: 12-Aug-2006 at 13:39 |
I agree with you Anton.
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Anton
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Posted: 12-Aug-2006 at 16:15 |
Originally posted by The Chargemaster
[quote=Subotai] That`s true. Our government must work better to facilitate that procedure.
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Yeah, or to return back stolen EGNs
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violentjack
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Posted: 23-Aug-2006 at 06:48 |
There are no 2 million Macedonians, some 1.2 million, and out of those, some were forcefully assimilated Bosniaks.
Bulgarians are going even higher, so thay are claiming Goranis,area in
Kosovo near border with Macedonians to be Bulgarian Muslims.
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Bosnjaci,probudite se ili nestanite
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The Chargemaster
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Posted: 23-Aug-2006 at 07:38 |
Originally posted by violentjack
Bulgarians are going even higher | Well, the bulgarians just are saying the truth.
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violentjack
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Posted: 23-Aug-2006 at 09:33 |
Which is?
Goranis are Bulgarians?
You know where is Gora?
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Bosnjaci,probudite se ili nestanite
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violentjack
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Posted: 23-Aug-2006 at 09:35 |
By the way here is Gorani forum, so you can ask them, or even read, how they declare themself
http://nasagora.1.forumer.com/
http://www.nasagora.info/slike.html
http://www.nasagora.info/
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Bosnjaci,probudite se ili nestanite
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The Chargemaster
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Posted: 23-Aug-2006 at 14:09 |
I know that site. There are few gorani songs for listening.
Originally posted by violentjack
You know where is Gora? |
It will be the same if i ask you: Do you know where is Sarajevo?
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bg_turk
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Posted: 23-Aug-2006 at 20:02 |
Here is an interesting article about the Gorans: http://www.sofiaecho.com/article/the-bulgarian-macedonian-brew/id_17134/catid_5Some of them seem to consider themselves as Macedonian others as Bulgarian. Bosnia also seems to have claims on them.
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violentjack
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Posted: 24-Aug-2006 at 06:00 |
No, actually not, we wont gain anything with that.
Bosniaks in Kosovo mainly live in Pec area:Vitomirica and Prizren
Some of Prizren Bosniaks even came to Sofia, ask for citizenship, and
they told they you were not Bulgarians, so i dont know can you be
humiliated any more
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Bosnjaci,probudite se ili nestanite
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Desperado
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Posted: 24-Aug-2006 at 18:45 |
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Digenis
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Posted: 26-Aug-2006 at 09:48 |
Originally posted by Desperado
The Macedonian phalanx reborn! |
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Red_Lord
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Posted: 06-Sep-2006 at 08:11 |
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"The slave is fighting for freedom,free is fighting for perfectness"
Yane Sandanski
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Red_Lord
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Posted: 06-Sep-2006 at 08:17 |
Originally posted by violentjack
No, actually not, we wont gain anything with that.
Bosniaks in Kosovo mainly live in Pec area:Vitomirica and Prizren
Some of Prizren Bosniaks even came to Sofia, ask for citizenship, and
they told they you were not Bulgarians, so i dont know can you be
humiliated any more
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After 100 years serbian represions even macedonians have
forgotten their bulgarian origin.Goran is very popular name in
Makedonia and in Southwest Bulgaria.
I can say you that even in Albania there are many arbanasies that call themselfs bulgars.
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"The slave is fighting for freedom,free is fighting for perfectness"
Yane Sandanski
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akritas
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Posted: 06-Sep-2006 at 08:28 |
Originally posted by Red_Lord
Originally posted by violentjack
No, actually not, we wont gain anything with that.
Bosniaks in Kosovo mainly live in Pec area:Vitomirica and Prizren
Some of Prizren Bosniaks even came to Sofia, ask for citizenship, and they told they you were not Bulgarians, so i dont know can you be humiliated any more
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After 100 years serbian represions even macedonians have forgotten their bulgarian origin.Goran is very popular name in Makedonia and in Southwest Bulgaria. I can say you that even in Albania there are many arbanasies that call themselfs bulgars.
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I don't think so that the Goran is a common name in Macedonia. The most common names are Yorgos and Yiannis. Except if you mean the Slavic part of Macedonia.
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