Are Muslims trying to change the West?

Some certainly are. I believe most are innocently expressing their beliefs and expectations, but some are intentionally, consciously trying to target certain aspects of the 'West'.

It doesn't bother me, though. They'll never accomplish much and their presence is a wonderful response to Jehovah's Witnesses and Evangelicals in Muslim countries.

It is natural for one side to desire an infulence on the other, the West would love to see a church in Mecca, whereas the Muslims would love to see a mosque in the Vatican. The West would loves to see Afghani woman with mini-skirts, and Afghani woman would love to know sister Anna Falkouwski is wearing hijab.

Originally posted by kingofmazanderan xi tujue and coc qec i agree with both of you that both sides want each other to be like them.  Its funny that people of different faiths think that thiers is the right one or the better one.  Why don't they just get it that they are both right or both equally as good.

Originally posted by xi_tujue does the west try to change the "muslimworld" the awnser is yes. they need democratie blblabla and they nee to be free if it is establshed with force so be it. do you know about whom I speak

I think the question here rather is "Is the West on the verge of loosing its grips in general  and would that be, to say the least because Christiany is not today what it once was in the eyes of the people (as the power)?"

Any system which causes a person to believe that people of deviant beliefs are headed for eternal misery in the afterlife has the natural consequence of making that person desire the other person conform to their own beliefs. But it is more than that also, many fear being corrupted or made "impure" by the actions and customs of people of differing beliefs. So both personal fear and human empathy make some people with religious beliefs desire for people of different faiths to be more like them, though I have found this particularly pronounced in proselytising religions such as Christianity and Islam.

In my opinion if You go to a country You should follow its rules and custom and if You are not happy with that You should go somewhere else. So I can't imagine that I will be thrown from a pool because someone is disturbed by my presence. If so He should go not me. We have Muslims in Poland for 400 years and we don't have such problems with Muslim minority like in the west. Probably because it is small but maybe Tartars are more tollerant muslims than other. Somehow it doesn't disturb them to swim with other people of diffrent sex so them or other Muslims don't respect or don't know Koran. Is it written in Koran that woman and man shouldn't swim together? 

Of course we have to respect other cultures that we have welcomed to the country. Its perfectly normal here for organisations to reserve or rent a swimming hall just for the members for an hour or two.

You make some very good points azimuth.

Azimuth, you have a really good point.