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Attila the Hun-is he Asian or Indo-European?

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    Posted: 26-Jul-2006 at 18:29
Many Germans effecitvly became Huns, politicaly and even culturaly to a degree as they adopted the lifestyle. But that doesn't make all Huns German. By Atilla's time they were a very Hetrogeneous bunch anyways.


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  Quote Exarchus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jul-2006 at 18:33
maybe with a smiley it works better :).
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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jul-2006 at 18:45
He, i just looked at teh clip Approve
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  Quote Komnenos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jul-2006 at 19:32
Originally posted by Cywr

Many Germans effecitvly became Huns, politicaly and even culturaly to a degree as they adopted the lifestyle. But that doesn't make all Huns German. By Atilla's time they were a very Hetrogeneous bunch anyways.
 
Firstly, they weren't Germans but Germanic tribes, there is an enormous difference.
Mainly Eastern Germanic migrating tribes as the Goths or the Rugians, whose lifestyle wasn't terribly different from the Huns even before they encountered them.
It was on the whole an uneasy alliance, with the Germanic tribes, whose territories of settlement had been overrun, forced to become Hunnic vassals. As soon as Attila's empire collapsed, they rebelled and went their own ways, with the known results. I doubt that the years spent under Hunnic dominance left a deep impact on Eastern-Germanic culture. The contact with the Roman Empire was far more important.


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  Quote Raider Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Jul-2006 at 02:38
Attila, the Hun plastic action figure
You can order via internet


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  Quote Komnenos Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Jul-2006 at 03:09
Originally posted by Raider

Attila, the Hun plastic action figure
You can order via internet
 
 
Are the severed heads included or do you have to order them seperately?
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  Quote Aster Thrax Eupator Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Jul-2006 at 09:43

So German culture is Hunnic in Origin?

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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Jul-2006 at 16:26
Umm, no.
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  Quote kroglu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Jul-2006 at 21:41
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From most of books I read, Atilla is identified with Oriental (Eastern Asian) characters (yellowish skin, short, small eyes, flat nose as according to Priscus's encounter with Attila).
 
But why then in Hungary Attila (as a national hero in Hungary) is depicted as European like figure as well as in recent American movie Attila???
 
 
Is is because Europeans can not accept the fact that Attila is non-white? 
 
 
Huns are central asian and they are the fathers of all Turkic and Turanian (for example hungarian) nations!
And they are of the TURANID subrace.
 
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  Quote Lmprs Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Jul-2006 at 21:55
Originally posted by kroglu

http://www.turkcuturancilar.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=932&PN=0&TPN=1

Yeah, great source...

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HE IS ORIGIN TURK....AS ALL BIG TURKISH PEOPLE.HE IS VERY BIG KING.AND HE IS NOT BARBARIANWink
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  Quote xi_tujue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Aug-2006 at 15:11
Originally posted by KANSU44

HE IS ORIGIN TURK....AS ALL BIG TURKISH PEOPLE.HE IS VERY BIG KING.AND HE IS NOT BARBARIANWink
the definition of barbarian by civilised people means just differnt and I think jyes he was a barbarian so Am I
I rather be a nomadic barbarian than a sedentary savage
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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Aug-2006 at 16:13
He goes down in history as one of the biggest of barbarians, and for one reason only, he kicked Roman arse. Like Gaiseric of around the same time, took Carthage from the Romans he did, and without a fight too, had Rome right by the balls, such a terrible Barbarian Wink
Of course, Gaiseric was also an Arian, which is even worse than being a pagan Hun, barbarism to the max LOL

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OK, so he didn't literaly kick their arses in a desicive battle sense, but he had them in a real tight spot, basicly ran a imperial scale extortion racket, with the mighty Romans virtualy powerless to do anything about it.


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  Quote Ildico Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Aug-2006 at 22:36
Even though the huns did originate from the steppes, by the time of Attila's reign they were considered to be european huns.

So, it is possible that Attila was both asian and european.
Beauty is in the eye of that guy behind the spontaneous diversions, set aside for a good explorer, telling a story about the world.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Aug-2006 at 23:35
Revisionism about whether Atilla was a 'barbarian' or not always brings a smile to my face, the man was a mass murderer, plain and simple - he must have personally raped thousands of women and killed thousands of men.
 
He took pleasure in other people's suffering. He brought nothing but death.
 
When you arrive at these conclusions it's easy to see why Turks revere him to such an extent.
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  Quote Shapur II Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Aug-2006 at 23:58
atila the hun was asiatic, he had mongoloid features.

This is what the Roman historian Maximin wrote about Atila:

"short of stature, with a broad chest and a large head; his eyes were small, his beard thin and sprinkled with gray; and he had a flat nose and a swarthy complexion, showing the evidences of his origin."

he did not look like indo-europeans (caucasoid), this is a myth started by the western film industry.



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  Quote Afghanan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Aug-2006 at 03:52
I think this is the most accurate portrayal of him via numismatic evidence:
 
 
 
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  Quote Leonardo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Aug-2006 at 04:35
This is not "numismatic" evidence
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  Quote Cywr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Aug-2006 at 06:47
This is what the Roman historian Maximin wrote about Atila:


Pricus ;)
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  Quote Afghanan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Aug-2006 at 11:49
Originally posted by Leonardo

This is not "numismatic" evidence
 
Why not?
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