The Byerley Turk

You don't know who Turkmen Bashi is. So you're NOT able to reach a logical conclusion here. I'm not surprised either to see people who have not a world-wide famous horses like AqalTeke laughing at things like horse-minister.

Gok_Toruk, the Akhal Teke horse is among the top if not the top breed of horse in the world.

Originally posted by gok_toruk Listen barbar, I'm really sick and tired of all those conversations I had with you; let alone to laugh at what we honor. I'm ready to continue this discussion until whenever you may keep. Call this a flame war or anywhat you may think. You don't have the authority to make humor of people's belief or hereos. What do you think you're doing?   And to Seko, I should say, if you're about to warn me again for this statements, first, insert a caution here to Barbar. He has started the course. And then you can ask me for my apologise.

And I might be emotional, if you think. But when it comes to my people, I'm rather a pure crazy Turkmen.

What makes you think Turkey is "better" than other Turkic countries?

Turkmenistan had only 15 years to implement reforms, Turkey had almost 85...

"If you think Saddam Hussein was fond of himself, just visit Turkmenbashi's country. There's a poster or a statue of him in nearly every public space.

The golden likeness of the former communist party boss-turned-dictator is in the center of the capitol, always rotating to face the sun. His picture is on the airplane that brings you to the main port town called Turkmenbashi. It watches over workers in the field, over children in school, over drivers on the road. He's also on the money, and he's even on the national vodka.

His face is everywhere, and you can�t walk a block without seeing either a statue or photo of him.

Half the country lives in poverty. And Turkmenistan has the highest infant mortality rate in the region and the lowest life expectancy. Jobs are few and far between, and religious freedom? Well, Turkmenbashi knocks down churches.

Turkmenbashi controls everything in this country. He personally decides who comes in, who goes out, who gets into university, and who does not. There's also no press freedom, since he controls the newspapers and television.
Turkmenbashi is so controlling that he has even rewritten the calendar, and he recently renamed the month of January to "Turkmenbashi." April is named after his mother.

anyway, continued here...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/12/31/60minutes/main590913.shtml

One thing we can't sadly rid the world of is ignorance, what I dislike is when somebody is obviously ignorant about a matter but seems to think that they know it all.

yup

Our ancestors had a clearer and more reasoned division of the ages of man...childhood lasted to 13, adolescence to 25, youth to 37, maturity to 49.

"Later there followed: the age of the prophet, from 49 to 62; the age of inspiration, from 62 to 73; the age of the white-bearded elder, from 73 to 85; old age, from 85 to 97; and the age of Oguz Khan (an ancient ruler of the Turkic ancestors of the Turkmen) -- from 97 to 109."

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/central/08/17/Turkmenistan.ages/


"Living standards just go down and down," said a doctor in his forties, who asked to remain anonymous because talking to foreign reporters can land you in serious trouble with the omnipresent security agency. "The only changes I can see are the buildings springing up everywhere."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1634100.stm

e renamed the town of Krasnovodsk, on the Caspian Sea, Turkmenbashi after himself, in addition to renaming several schools, airports and even a meteorite after himself and his immediate family. Niyazov's face appears on all Manat banknotes and large portraits of the president hang all over the country, especially on major public buildings and avenues. Statues of himself and his mother are scattered all over Turkmenistan, including one in the middle of the Kara Kum desert as well as a gold-plated statue atop Ashgabat's largest building, the Neutrality Arch, that rotates so it will always face into the sun and shine light onto the capital city. Niyazov has commissioned a massive palace in Ashgabat commemorating his rule. He has been given the hero of Turkmenistan award five times. "I'm personally against seeing my pictures and statues in the streets - but it's what the people want," Niyazov has said. The education system indoctrinates young Turkmen to love Niyazov, with his works and speeches making up most of their textbooks' content. The primary text is a national epic written by Niyazov, the Ruhnama or Book of the Soul.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saparmurat_Niyazov

The international community�s ability to address Turkmenistan�s leadership crisis is limited. Niyazov has gone to great lengths to seal the country off from outside cultural forces, enhancing his ability to resist international pressure to change his ways. [For background see the Eurasia Insight]. In addition, the inability of foreign experts to gain entry to Turkmenistan is hampering development of instability-prevention strategies and emergency response planning, Ponomarev indicated.

http://www.eurasianet.org/departments/insight/articles/eav052506.shtml

have your pick...but I would agree with gok toruk, here. I do not think foreigners have any right to judge his country and to tell him what/who to look or not to like, no matter how weird some of the practices seem to us. If the people are happy..then they are happy, its none of our business.

I agree with your point gok toruk, on the interruption of politics in this topic. Though threads do often stray from the original focus, they often have a way of going back. This one hasn't.

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