post-WW2 Soviet army.

If the Soviet Union had the greatest army in Europe after WWII,  why did they not conquer the rest of Europe?

Originally posted by Russian [QUOTE=karlos] If the Soviet Union had the greatest army in Europe after WWII,  why did they not conquer the rest of Europe?

 
    

[quote]because US saved the europe, NOT with economics, with Nukes.

But US, even with their nukes, could not destroy USSR, so, should they have launched them, and they had ridiculous number, like 5, USSR would go beat the hell out of europe.

Both sides were afraid to attack each other.




Edited by karlos - 07-Jun-2006 at 16:23

Originally posted by Cezar Originally posted by Giordano ,ok,dude,opinion...I believe that your opinions are only hypotheses of yours...Your knowledge sources are different than us,our sources brainwashed us and your sources simple truth... Don't wait for nobody believe your ideas or hypotheses ,you're looking as playin squash... I've respect all armies,countries...Believe you're the best in all things,no problem for me.I think,i won't read your posts after this,because i don't need any propaganda...Good lucks about keepin the best positions...   You keep asking everybody about souces. Sources can be wether punctual or from all the materials someone has read/consulted for a long time. Also, opinion is not formed only by source(s), one has to use his own brain (if he has any) to state something. If you consider a statement as being ... improper you better bring arguments (from your source's or from your brain) about the flaws you spotted. USSR had the largest army - are your sources denying that? D-Day was a major event but it wasn't the major event of WWII. What's your opinion? Some statements, arguments, not just questions or critics to forumer's style.

Wow,i've asked sources to confirm knowledges,one says A bigger than B and other one says different.Which one is true?How do you know?
If your answer is your opinion is true,i don't say about it...I explained and will explain my opinions in any case,don't be afraid.
I don't understand that why "source" word disturbs you such?
If you say this is better you must be prove,this means you must give a source.Russian army isn't the largest army,you asked to me that therefore i wrote it .the largest army is Chinese army.And we haven't discussed the largest army.Pls strieve to understand me really...
I wrote some knowledges about WWII and simple the source is BBC and History channel.Russian rejected this knowledges and he says we use the same knowledge sources...And finaly,i've finished my post in this topic,why do you need to offend me,i don't understand

Originally posted by Kalevipoeg "Well, Estonia couldn't proclaim itelf independent if not SU, right, it would be conquered." So what, we were independent, and that was all we were striving for the entire time, the Inter regnum was well used. You conquered an independent democratic western minded country and thats that. "The thing I said about population is to assume that in those times there were less nationalists than now. He wouldn't kill everybody, just would do repressions, he liked them, he alsmot ruined the country with that (USSR)." Were they less nationalistic? I would imagine the propaganda cannons were constantly spilling talks on how noble and great the Soviet people are and are fighting for world freedom and i don't think many thought otherwise. Propaganda and nationalism are always more active during war, especially for the Russians who got straight out horrors from the Germans during the war. "And by the way, this WEST, especially US and UK politicians were cowards then, they started second front in 1944, when it didn't matter at all anymore, Germany is also west, it basically tried to enslave you." Never said it was otherwise, just mentioned they would have had massive allies in conquered Europe if they had had guts.

Giordano, didn't want to offend you, sorry if I did, if you mean me.
     

Kalevipoeg, how could you be independent under Nazi Germany?

Originally posted by Giordano Russian,ok,dude,last post replied for Cezar.I don't think you offend me really And sorry Kalevipoeg,i really sorry to change the subject of your topic.

    
oh, ok, now we are cool

Originally posted by Kalevipoeg "Giordano, didn't want to offend you, sorry if I did, if you mean me.      " He didn't actually ask me anything or speak to me, so no offense, you two have your separate discussion. "Kalevipoeg, how could you be independent under Nazi Germany?" 20th september - Tallinn was free of both Germans (retreating across the Estonian border) and Soviets (coming from the east). The Estonian prime minister was declared Otto Tief to restore the legal order of the Estonian state whose soil was intruded by the SU and after that nazi Germany. Estonia had a democratic government and the SU invaded us, wiping freedom from our faces. "And sorry Kalevipoeg,i really sorry to change the subject of your topic." No problem, but actually i still haven't got an answer for my question so far.

Guess why german forces retreated? and that let you have free goverment.
    

My point stands the same, Estonia would not be able to liberate itself if not the soviets.

Originally posted by Kalevipoeg We had much the same chance of liberation with you then with the Germans. Thats what i mean, you two were our enemies, so it didn't matter which of you "liberated" us. What if Japan had the chance to attack you from the east and drive the Germans back, would you hug the Japanese for freedom they were never going to give you? You were the invader just like the Germans, understand that.

Oh, so thatt's how europe thinks of the army that literally liberated it, ok, nice attitude,
     

Originally posted by Kalevipoeg Your barbaric term for liberation is out of date since the medieval ages.

    

Ok, let's do it again, Germans were better? You couldn;t free yourselves from germans, and SU was better than germans, so, chose the lesser evil, in this case it was SU.

Originally posted by Kalevipoeg Noone was better. Just because we hated both of you doesn't mean we had to love you coming from the east and the germans being here, although it was a breather when they came in 1941, saved alot of Estonian lives. We hated both of you, so you weren't a relief, just other conquerors who put up the second fascist regime, wow thank you very much, barbarians.

ok, let's excuse you for this little brainwash that you were hearing from your new goverment, who basically serves USA, like a dog.

Anyway, let's do it the long way:

Here is an argument:

1) You can not free yourself.
2) You are under germans.
3) Soviets are treating you better than germans.
4) What do you chose, for soviets to come or for germans to stay?