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    Posted: 25-May-2006 at 23:59
    Neithikret Egypts First Female Pharaoh

Egypts first female Pharaoh was Neithikret (Nitocris). According to historian, Manetho, Nitocris became Pharaoh circa 2148-2144 B.C. upon the death of her brother, who was executed for blasphemy and defiling a temple of Osiris. Nitocris avenged her brothers death by inviting all those responsible to a banquet into a sealed chamber which she had flooded with water from the Nile, thereby drowning all of them. Before anyone could seek revenge on her, she committed suicide. Manetho writes that she was the last ruler of the 6th dynasty and describes her as the bravest and most beautiful woman of her time.   According to Manetho's list: during the 6th dynasty; of the 6 Memphite Kings, the sixth sovereign was Nitocris (Neithikret), the first female sovereign. Unfortunately Nitocris is not mentioned in any native Egyptian inscriptions as she may not have existed, or her name erased, as many Egyptian records have been altered.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitocris

Sobeknefru - Egypt's Second Female Pharaoh

Egypts second female Pharaoh was Sobeknefru. She is possibly the first confirmed female pharaoh of Egypt. She is mentioned in Manetho's text, in the Turin Canon, the Karnak, Turin and Sakkara king lists. Her name means Beautiful of the God Sobek. She was married to Amenemhet IV, who was possibly also her brother, and she became ruler upon his death. She ruled for four years circa 1787-1783. There is very little records of her reign remaining. Its debated whether she was Amenemhet IIIs wife, a rival or a regent for an infant son.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sobeknefru



    

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  Quote Belisarius Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-May-2006 at 11:46
Intriguing... I always thought that Maatkare Hapshepsut, believed to have ruled 1503 BCE - 1483 BCE, was the first female ruler not only of Egypt but any country.
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  Quote morticia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-May-2006 at 16:17
Originally posted by Belisarius

Intriguing... I always thought that Maatkare Hapshepsut, believed to
have ruled 1503 BCE - 1483 BCE, was the first female ruler not only of
Egypt but any country.


I thought the same, Belisarius. However, in researching female pharaohs, I found said info. I too was intrigued!      
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  Quote mamikon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-May-2006 at 16:36
is Cleopatra considered a pharaoh or a queen tributary to Rome?
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  Quote morticia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-May-2006 at 16:57
Originally posted by mamikon

is Cleopatra considered a pharaoh or a queen tributary to Rome?


"The Ptolemies were of Macedonian descent, yet they ruled Egypt as Egyptians - as Pharaohs. And, indeed, Cleopatra was the last Pharaoh."

However, she was referred to as the "Queen of the Nile".
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  Quote Maharbbal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-May-2006 at 21:55
The Ptolemaids were both pharaohs and basileus fore they were ruling a country with an Egyptian population and a Greek elite.

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-May-2006 at 11:40
Hmmm 3 femalerulers in 3 thousand years, not exactly a prototype for "emancipation".
 
Any thintg on those who held actual power behind the throne, you know, Nefartiti and the like.
 
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  Quote Belisarius Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-May-2006 at 14:23
The thing about women is that they don't have to be the titular ruler of a nation to hold the actual power. WinkNuke
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  Quote morticia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-May-2006 at 23:04
.....more on female pharaohs:

Egypts next female Pharaoh was Hatshepsut. She ruled for fifteen years between c. 1473 -1458 B.C.   During her reign, she commenced the project of building her funerary temple at Deir el-Bahari.

Egypts next female Pharaoh was Nefertiti. She was very much involved in her husband Akhenatens restructuring policies and ruled independently as king upon her husbands death


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Egypts next female Pharaoh was Tawosret, who took the throne upon the death of her husband , Seti II, in 1194 B.C. She was responsible for a number of expeditions to the Sinai and Palestine.

The last of Egypts female Pharaohs was Cleopatra VII. When Cleopatra ascended the Egyptian throne, she was only seventeen. She reigned as Queen Philopator and Pharaoh between 51 and 30 BC, and died at the age of 39. She is the most popular of all the female pharaohs.


Portrait of Cleopatra VII, Graeco-Roman Museum, Alexandria


    

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-May-2006 at 01:19

BTW any news on whether that new mummy they found was Nefertiti? That Scottish Egyptologist was pretty confident.

 

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  Quote morticia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-May-2006 at 23:44
Originally posted by Sparten

BTW any news on whether that new mummy they found was Nefertiti? That Scottish Egyptologist was pretty confident.




Last I heard, the mummy found was possibly that of a man. I don't believe there is anything conclusive yet, but I'll do some research and see what I can find.
    
    

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  Quote Belisarius Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-May-2006 at 12:09
Was Nefertiti actually the pharoah? Or did she just wield substantial power as the pharoah's wife?
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  Quote Maharbbal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-May-2006 at 12:57
Cleopatra II and III were as well "tough cookies" as Dawn put it.

CII was first the wife of her brother Ptolemee VI and then the wife of her husband murderer who was her other brother Ptolemee VIII (who had murder her first born son PVII).
CIII was the daughter of CII and PVI but then became the wife of PVIII (still married to her mother of course other wise it wouldn't be funny).
At one point CII got upset with this situation and fired CIII and PVIII. But, too confident, she sent them her son P. Memphite who was killed by his own rebellious father and half-sister, chop off in piece and mailed back to his mother in twelve packages.
But hey, they were still A FAMILLY (and that is what matters whatever happens) so the all three of them decided to rule again jointly. End of the story.

Those were completely wicked, but the women were powerful allright.

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  Quote morticia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-May-2006 at 19:55
Originally posted by Belisarius

Was Nefertiti actually the pharoah? Or did she just wield substantial power as the pharoah's wife?


According to Wikipedia, "During Akhenaten's reign (and perhaps after) Nefertiti enjoyed unprecedented power, and was perhaps the most powerful woman on earth. Some time during the reign she was made co-regent: the pharaoh's equal. She was depicted on temple walls the same size as the king, signifying her importance.

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Originally posted by Maharbbal

Cleopatra II and III were as well "tough cookies" as Dawn put it.

CII was first the wife of her brother Ptolemee VI and then the wife of her husband murderer who was her other brother Ptolemee VIII (who had murder her first born son PVII).
CIII was the daughter of CII and PVI but then became the wife of PVIII (still married to her mother of course other wise it wouldn't be funny).
At one point CII got upset with this situation and fired CIII and PVIII. But, too confident, she sent them her son P. Memphite who was killed by his own rebellious father and half-sister, chop off in piece and mailed back to his mother in twelve packages.
But hey, they were still A FAMILLY (and that is what matters whatever happens) so the all three of them decided to rule again jointly. End of the story.

Those were completely wicked, but the women were powerful allright.

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My gosh this is simply awful!

One feels tempted to make a case for a Gibbonian explanation for the decline of the Ptolemies based purely on this example.
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  Quote edgewaters Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-Feb-2009 at 16:49

Originally posted by Belisarius

Intriguing... I always thought that Maatkare Hapshepsut, believed to have ruled 1503 BCE - 1483 BCE, was the first female ruler not only of Egypt but any country.

Sumeria had one a millenia earlier than that, according to the king lists (name of Kubaba). About 400 years before Neithikret too.

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  Quote opuslola Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Oct-2009 at 18:49
Belisarius wrote; ""It is easier to talk than to hold one's tongue."

And, Belisarius, you should have written just what you preached? That is "nothing!"
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Hatshepsut was one of the most important female pharaohs of Egypt. She ruled during the early part of the 18th Dynasty, an exciting time known as the ‘Golden Age of Egypt’ that includes many of the best known pharaohs and queens, including King Tutankhamen, Amenhotep, Tiye, Akhenaton and Nefertiti. There are problems pinpointing the actual date of her reign with the following all being possible: 1504-1482, 1488-1468, 1479-1457, and 1473-1458 B.C
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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Dec-2011 at 19:18
I never knew there were so many female Pharaohs besides Cleopatra, Hatshepsut and Nefertiti
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  Quote Louise C Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-Feb-2012 at 02:25
Books on women in ancient Egypt that I have mention Nitocris and Sobekneferu as Queens Regnant (that is Queens in their own right rather than being just the wives of kings).  Hatshepsut seems to have been the only one to actually have herself declared Pharoah.  Twosret is mentioned as being the fourth Queen regnant of Egypt, but nothing is known of her reign.  Hatshepsut seems to be the only one about whom much is known.  Nefertiti is not mentioned as being a queen in her own right, though she does seem to have been given an unusually prominent position by Akhenaten.
 
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