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Equality does not take precedence over justice... Justice does not mean that all laws must be the same for men and women. One of the mistakes that Westerners make is to forget this.... The difference in the stature, vitality, voice, development, muscular quality and physical strength of men and women shows that men are stronger and more capable in all fields... Men's brains are larger.... Men incline toward reasoning and rationalism while women basically tend to be emotional... These differences affect the delegation of responsibilities, duties and rights.
-- Hashemi Rafsanjani, Iranian Parliament Speaker, 1986

Before 1979, women in Iran were not as oppressed, they were not as controlled and far less scrutinized for their behavior. Since then, conservative radicals have made women's rights a thing of the past. In more recent years, the UN and other Women's Rights activists have been lobbying for support, and many things could begin to change if outside help was introduced. 
In the 1960's, before the revolution that lead to the Khomeini Regime, the Pahlavi kings had ruled a monarchy that was over 2500 years old. They implemented voting rights of women to help quell any uprisings or malcontent among women. This was not the only new reform, others soon followed. read more

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Women are oressed in Iran, they are victims only becouse they are women.

Zahra Kazemi
 
Zahra Kazemi was an Iranian/Canadian journalist and photographer, who was arrested 2004 for spying, but the real reason was shooting photos of political perisoner's relatives outside the perison building.
 

Although Iran's regime insists that her death was accidental, Shahram Azam, a former military staff physician who left Iran and sought asylum in Canada in 2004, has stated that he examined Kazemi's body and observed evidence of rape and torture, including a skull fracture, broken nose, crushed toe, broken fingers, and severe abdominal bruising. The Canadian government, as well as Kazemi's supporters, consider her death to be a murder. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zahra_Kazemi

Azam said Kazemi showed obvious signs of torture, including:
  • Evidence of a very brutal rape.
  • A skull fracture, two broken fingers, missing fingernails, a crushed big toe and a broken nose.
  • Severe abdominal bruising, swelling behind the head and a bruised shoulder.
  • Deep scratches on the neck and evidence of flogging on the legs.

The case stayed under the radar screens of most Canadians until March 31, 2005, and the stunning revelations of Shahram Azam, a former staff physician in Iran's Defence Ministry. He said he examined Kazemi in hospital, four days after her arrest. http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/kazemi/

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Atefeh Rajabi
 
 
On August 15, 2004, 16-year-old Atefeh Rajabi was hung to death from a crane in the main square of Neka, Iran in front of the town's people to keep "society safe from acts against public morality."

She was charged with allegedly having sex with an older man and, in the words of the judge, she had 'a sharp tongue.' The judge put the noose around her neck. After the execution, the town governor sent the judge a letter of congratulations.

An orphan, Atefeh "suffered years of brutal violence, exploitation and torture in the hands of relatives, local officials and plain strangers, and in a country where girls are the most vulnerable members of society, she had no one to go to for help."

Atefehs mother died when she was a child. Her father, an unemployed drug addict, abandoned her.

Tehran, Sep. 17 - The lawyer representing the relatives of Atefeh Rajabi, the 16-year-old girl who was hanged last month (Aug. 15th) in the town of Neka, northern Iran, has filed a lawsuit on their behalf. Mr. Shadi Sadr, who was retained to help prove Atefehs innocence, stated that after examining Atefehs documentation he was convinced that she was in fact 16 years old at the time her execution and not 22 as Iranian Judiciary spokespersons had claimed. Judiciary officials have admitted that Atefeh was executed but said she was 22 to justify her hanging.

Many observers note that such a tactic was only meant to divert attention from the fact that the offence Atefeh allegedly committed did not even carry the death penalty. Iran Focus first quoted Haji Rezai, the religious judge in the case, as saying that he had Atefeh hanged for her sharp tongue.

Mr. Sadr was quoted as saying: Under Irans Islamic Law, girls over 9 years of age are punishable for the crime of chastity and it appears that the execution of a 16 year old girl is viewed as an appropriate punishment.

According to judicial records, by the time Atefeh was 16, she had been convicted five times of having sex with unmarried men. Each time, she spent time in jail and was given 100 lashes. Under Irans law, punishment for having sex with a married man is much harsher.

The Iranian regime routinely executes minors. An Afghan boy, Feiz Mohammad, 16, was sentenced to death in Iran last month. Death sentences have also been issued for three other boys by the names of Ali M., Morteza F. and Milad B. who are presently held in the Center for Reform and Education (Juvenile Prison). While all three were under 18 when they allegedly committed their crimes, their death sentences are going to be carried out soon as they turn 18. http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=280
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Prostitution among Iranian women and girls
 

WASHINGTON, 11 June (FRONT PAGE MAGAZINE) A measure of Islamic fundamentalists' success in controlling society is the depth and totality with which they suppress the freedom and rights of women. In Iran for 25 years, the ruling mullahs have enforced humiliating and sadistic rules and punishments on women and girls, enslaving them in a gender apartheid system of segregation, forced veiling, second-class status, lashing and stoning to death.

Joining a global trend, the fundamentalists have added another way to dehumanise women and girls: buying and selling them for prostitution. Exact numbers of victims are impossible to obtain, but according to an official source in Tehran, there has been a 635 percent increase in the number of teen-age girls in prostitution. The magnitude of this statistic conveys how rapidly this form of abuse has grown. In Tehran, there are an estimated 84,000 women and girls in prostitution, many of them are on the streets, others are in the 250 brothels that reportedly operate in the city. The trade is also international: Thousands of Iranian women and girls have been sold into sexual slavery abroad.

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slavery of children and women in Persian Gulf
 
The UAE was one of the 19 countries in the world that the United States blacklisted for human trafficking. The trafficking as a modern form of Slavery leaves no land untouched..

With camel racing heavily patronized by the oil rich rulers, who have least respect in the legislature, thousands of small children from Indian sun continent face a black and future.

Women migrated from Azerbaijan, Iran, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, India and Eastern Europe have reported being lured with fraudulent promises of lucrative opportunities, legitimate jobs and then forced into sexual exploitation. Women who dared resist encountered harsh punishment from their employers, including physical assault. Their status as illegal migrants made the women particularly vulnerable to attacks by customers and traffickers alike. UAE has joined the growing global criminal activity of sex trafficking.
 
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Killing unlucky women whose blood is permitted to shed with immunity for the killer

In an interview with ILNA, Zahra Arzani, a womens rights activist, spoke out about the increase of Mahdoural adam genocide of women (whose blood is permitted to shed with immunity for the killer) and said: Recently [the judiciary has handed down] several verdicts based on the practice of Mahdoural adam genocide of women, that indicate that certain elements within this society, have fallen back into that line of thinking. She added: Mahdoural adam killings are more of a threat to women than men; this advent has severely weakened the status of women in society and it has become a tool for men to be acquitted for the murder of women. The [Islamic] law explicitly says that there is no punishment for a person who commits a Mahdoural adam killing. This is an issue that must be denounced. [Mullah] Judges also endorse the law by continuously issuing vicious verdicts which should alarm society.

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   "In Iran for 25 years, the ruling mullahs have enforced humiliating and sadistic rules and punishments on women and girls, enslaving them in a gender apartheid system of segregation, forced veiling, second-class status, lashing and stoning to death."

My God! They still lash and stone women to death? I'm shocked! And we want these men to have nuclear power? Just one of those things that makes me go, hmmmmmmmm!
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  Quote Maziar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-May-2006 at 14:12
Yes Morty they lash and stone women to death. This is the sad story of Iranian women. I will add more posts about it, this is only a little part i have wrote.
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Mazier, what about the education of Iranian women? Are they allowed to attend schools? I know that UAE women can attend University with permission from their husbands, is it the same for women in Iran? What do the young women do all day if they don't attend schools? Just being curious.

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Yes they are allowed to attend school and university. But there is a long list of brunchs of studies they are not allowed to study. I have searched many times to find that list, but i havn't found it. They are mostly study brunchs which in muslim's men opinion is not made for women, like technical brunchs.
They need deffenitely the permission from their husbands or fathers, or older brothers, or any men, who stand next to them. Women in Islam doen't be classified as intelligent, and they need always a man who thinks for them.
But all thoese idiotic way of islamic thinking couldn't prevent Iranian women to go to Unis and educate theirselves.
 
 
Number Of Female University Students Rising Dramatically in Iran
By Golnaz Esfandiari

In recent years, the number of young Iranian women who have been admitted to universities has risen dramatically. In the last five years alone, Iranian women have made up more than 60 percent of university entrants. It's a surprising development for the Islamic Republic. Experts say education has a strong social value for the country's women, who see it as a way to gain greater freedom. But some Iranian officials have expressed concern about the trend.

Prague, 19 November 2003 (RFE/RL) -- The growing numbers of young women in Iran's universities is considered a phenomenon that has already brought substantial change to the country's traditionally male-dominated society.

Iranian women are using university studies as a way to leave home, postpone marriage, and generally earn greater freedom and social respect.

Dr. Said Peyvandi is a Paris-based professor of social sciences who follows issues relating to Iran's educational system. In an interview with Radio Farda, Peyvandi said the already strong presence of women in the universities will play a significant role in shaping Iran's future.

"The remarkable educational progress of Iranian girls in the last decade should be considered a social phenomenon, because its implications for social relations, the labor market, and the status of women in society and in the family are very, very important in determining the future of Iran," Peyvandi said.

Peyvandi adds that, ironically, it was after the 1979 revolution and the Islamization of the country's educational institutions that girls from traditional or conservative families began to find ways to go to school. "The modern middle-class families who sent their girls to school even before the revolution continued to do so after [the revolution]. I think the change that took place after the revolution should be considered part of the reason behind the progress we're seeing now," he said. "And that was that the traditional families who had not sent their girls to school before -- because the teachers were men or the school was not Islamic -- these were the girls who took the greatest advantage from the Islamization of schools, or the fact that schools were no longer mixed, as a way of justifying their presence out of the home." ........

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  Quote morticia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-May-2006 at 13:11
These are great articles you have posted, Mazier. IMO, education is the most important tool that women in Iran can receive. Hopefully someday, they will be free from oppression and can lead a productive and fruitful life with choices to best benefit their interests. Women are still being oppressed all over the world, so we still have quite a job ahead of us.

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I agree, education is very important - indirectly and directly. The most important thing, in my mind, is that young children - very young - ages 1-6 especially - see women in significant roles. Whether its a teacher, a doctor, it doesn't really matter - but their interaction with a respectable woman is very, very important for how they see the world later on.
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@Morty, Thank for your insight and i hope too our women will be free some day. And yes overall in the world are women opressed, even here in Germany, a free democratic country. Sadly my thread about gender equality and muslim women was messed up by some ignorant users and closed.
 
@Mila, very well said. agree 100%
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Iranian Women and Girls - Victims of Exploitation and Violence

Fundamentalist Views on Women

Despite its defiance, the male-dominated regime is retreating step by step. Yet at the same time, a reactionary, violent and suppressive force called fundamentalism is emerging. Misogynous in character, fundamentalism or religious fanaticism, best represented by Khomeini and his successors in Iran, is threatening all the achievements of the civilized world, particularly those of women. Under the banner of Islam, the fundamentalists are denying the equality of women and men

Sale of Girl Children

It has become common practice to sell or force very young girls to marry much older husbands, giving rise to all sorts of social ills. Adineh magazine wrote in summer 1991: "An 11-year-old girl was married off to a 27-year-old man. The father, who had seven daughters, received $300 for his consent. The morning after the marriage ceremonies, the girl was taken to hospital suffering from severe lacerations to her genitals."

Rape of Female Prisoners

According to a special "religious decree" issued by Ayatollah Khomeini, virgin women prisoners must be raped before execution to prevent their going to heaven. A Guard conducts the rape the night before their murder. The next day, the religious judge at the prison issues a marriage certificate and sends it to the victims family, along with a box of sweets.

Rampant Prostitution

Unemployment and skyrocketing prices make it impossible for millions of Iranians to get married and raise a family. At a seminar on the difficulties of getting married, Ayatollah Haeri Shirazi proposed in January 1997 that authorities promote an unofficial, temporary marriage called sigheh, that can last less than 24 hours and be repeated as many times as desired. This form of exploitation of women has become very widespread, and legitimizes sexual relations with very young girls. Quoting Mahin, the Iranian jurist, the Elle magazine reporter wrote in January 1997 about the life of a 9-year-old girl whose destitute parents arranged for her to be a sigheh. The man visits his temporary "wife" every weekend at her fathers house, for which privilege he pays her father about $12 per visit.

Stoning in Iran: A Medieval Atrocity Conducted In Modern Times

The desperate women forced into prostitution, as a direct result of the regimes policies, have to endure very harsh punishments, including public flogging and death by stoning. In one case, a religious judge convicted 17 members of an alleged prostitution ring. Among them were 14 brothers and sisters from a single family. Ten women and one man were stoned to death, two women and another man were hanged.

Surging Suicide

The report added that girl children as young as ten, instead of spending their days playing with other children, were being forced to marry men three to four times their age. Meanwhile as "married women," they are banned from attending school. Zan-e-Rouz, a womans magazine, wrote on Feb. 26, 1994, that a 14-year-old high school girl died after setting herself on fire to avoid marrying a 42-year-old man. Reuters reported on July 12, 1994, that "A 14-year-old Iranian girl, set to wed a man of 50 in an arranged marriage, burned herself to death."

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Raping female prisoners is nothing new. It was commonplace here as well, especially if they were arrested for homosexual activities.

What I don't understand is, from a religious perspective, how they can believe this has any impact whatsoever on the woman's ascent into heaven? If anything, it will make it even more likely she goes to heaven - not less.
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Mazier jan,
 
Don't you think you're blowing this out of proportion? Also, can you please cite UNBIASED sources instead of anti-IRI pro-Shahi Iranian dissident groups?
 
Prostitution was also commonplace under the rule of the Shah, as was heroin addiction, rape of female prisoners, temporary marriages, and suicide. You cannot blame the woes of an entire society on a religion. Prostition, drug addiction, rape, unemployment, lack of resources, etc. are also found in Western, democratic, and Christian societies as well. You are trying to paint a picture of the Islamic Republic which seeks to place all blame for the woes of an overpopulated, third world nation on Shia Islam and this is an unfair accusation.
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Piere Augustin de BEAUMARCHAIS, Figaros's wedding, III, 16 (1784)

BARTHOLO. - So famous faults! A Dreadful youth.
MARCELINE, (getting more and more nervous) - Yes dreadful, and more then you may think! I do not intend to denegate my faults; they are much too well known today! But how hard to make up for it after thirty years of a coy life! Me, I was born to be wise, and so I was as soon as I was allowed to use my reason. But in the age of dreams, naiveness and needs, when seductors are around us while misery stabes us, what can a child do against so many gathered ennemis? One judges us that may have deflowrate during his life ten misfortunate girls!
FIGARO. - The most guilty is the less generous, that is a rule.
MARCELINE, (with passion). - Men more than unfair that use and dispase the object of your passions, your victimes! You should be punished for the mistakes of our youth; you and your magistrates, so pround to judge us and that guiltfully let us pennyless. Is there a place for unlucky girls? They used to work as dressmakers, now men do.
FIGARO, (furious) - Even soldiers sew!
MARCELINE, (mad) - And even among the gentry, women only guet a pointless consideration; fooled by an apparent respect but in a real slavery; treated as minors for our wealth and punished as adults for our faults. Ah! Under any aspect your conduct toward us is awfull and pityfull!
FIGARO. - She's right!


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Very nice, Marhabbal.
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" that authorities promote an unofficial, temporary marriage called sigheh, that can last less than 24 hours and be repeated as many times as desired."

Certainly sounds like a form of legalizing rape!

Master Blaster - Why are you trying to minimize the issue? The fact is that women are being oppressed, enslaved, tortured, raped, bought and sold, and everything possible and necessary should be done to stop it...This is the sort of thing that could never be exaggerated!         
    

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Originally posted by Master_Blaster

Mazier jan,
 
Don't you think you're blowing this out of proportion? Also, can you please cite UNBIASED sources instead of anti-IRI pro-Shahi Iranian dissident groups?
 
Prostitution was also commonplace under the rule of the Shah, as was heroin addiction, rape of female prisoners, temporary marriages, and suicide. You cannot blame the woes of an entire society on a religion. Prostition, drug addiction, rape, unemployment, lack of resources, etc. are also found in Western, democratic, and Christian societies as well. You are trying to paint a picture of the Islamic Republic which seeks to place all blame for the woes of an overpopulated, third world nation on Shia Islam and this is an unfair accusation.
 
Master_Blaster jan,
No  i don't think at all i am blowing it out of proportion. And this sites are NOT unbiased, come on dada, have you never heared of these facts befor? really not? you can't tell me.
And what do you mean by pro-Shahi? do you think everyone who say the truth you don't like is a pro-Shahi? neither i am pro-Shahi. Do you know what is really an unfair accusation? to sentence a women to death who has defenced herself to not be raped.


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