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Topic: Meaning of Allah? Posted: 15-Apr-2006 at 18:09 |
What's the meaning of Allah?God or Lord maybe?
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Posted: 15-Apr-2006 at 18:12 |
I think god, but azimuth can say the correct answer.
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Iranian41ife
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Posted: 15-Apr-2006 at 18:32 |
Allah means God in Arabic.
The world Ojala in spanish, meaning I hope or God willing comes from the Arabic world Allah.
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Posted: 15-Apr-2006 at 18:37 |
I think it literally means the God.Proper name for God in Arabic is ilah I belive.Adding AL in front gives an equavalent meaning of The in English.I might be wrong tho...
Turkified word ilah has a different meaning since it can refer to more than one thing.But in Arabic it refers to only one, which is Allah
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Posted: 15-Apr-2006 at 18:45 |
I have read somewhere the word allah is drived from hebrew Elohim or Eloah, could someone prove it?
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Posted: 15-Apr-2006 at 18:50 |
In Aramaic EL means God as well.It make sense since they are all semitic languages with common origns.
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Posted: 15-Apr-2006 at 18:58 |
yes i think too.
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Posted: 15-Apr-2006 at 19:20 |
Does Allah or Ilah existed with the exact same meaning of today in pre-islamic Arabia,or it was introduced after the Islamization of the Arab peninsula?
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Posted: 15-Apr-2006 at 20:09 |
before Islam it was reffered to a specific idol. a goddess I believe.
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Posted: 15-Apr-2006 at 20:26 |
Allah Means God , the only God. or the supreme God for the pre-islamic Arabs.
Pre-Islamic Arabs were christans, jews and idol worshipers and others who worshipped th sun and the moon.
the Jews and the Christan Arabs called God Allah
the Idol worshippers called their Idols Aalihah, meaning gods, and those Aalihah were worshiped so they can be the link between them and the supreme God who is Allah.
Elah means god/lord but it can be used as any god for example we can say "Zeus is Elah al Yonan" meaning Zeus is Greek's god.
the term Allah to be used only when refering to the God belived to be the One and the only god worshiped by jews, christans and muslims.
again the pre-islamic arabs who worshiped idols did belive that there is a God who is one an only and the supreme, the idols they worshiped were considered minor gods who are closer to Allah and they thought worshipping those idols will make them loved by the only supreme God who is Allah.
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the term is Semitic and its the closest to the Aramaic term Elohi, when Arabs pray to God and say "My God" they say "Elahi".
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Posted: 15-Apr-2006 at 21:49 |
el-al-ala/ela/
eli-elahi-
elohim.
elohi/elahi-
allah-"al-lah".
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Posted: 15-Apr-2006 at 23:41 |
lol
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Posted: 16-Apr-2006 at 06:39 |
didnt the sumerians had a god named "Il ulu" ?
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Posted: 17-Apr-2006 at 17:16 |
in Old english i believe "Al" means fire. so maybe he was originally a fire god?
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Posted: 20-Apr-2006 at 14:31 |
Due to the rich nature of the Arabic language their are as mentioned in prior posts other names or titles for God. However 'Allah' is described as the perfect title for the Lord almighty.
Originally a fire God?
Allah is the same God as that of the Jews and the Christians.
Call him God, Allah, Jahova, Yahweh, Eloah etc God has many titles doesnt change his attributes. After all the God that the people of the book belive in is the same God of Moses (Musa), Abraham (Ibrahim), Jesus (Isa) etc.
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Posted: 20-Apr-2006 at 19:02 |
Originally posted by Achilles
in Old english i believe "Al" means fire. so maybe he was originally a fire god?
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Obviously "al" is the definite article "the" in Arabic (simmilar to Vulgar Latin/Italian "il"). "Al-Illah" then means "the god" or rather "The God". I've also read that is interpreted as "the one who is" but I dont know if this has some basis or is just a ranting.
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Posted: 22-Apr-2006 at 18:29 |
the Jews and the Christan Arabs called God Allah |
Assyrians and Levantens still call God "Allah", in their prayings and daily life.
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Posted: 23-Apr-2006 at 14:52 |
I think that "lah", "elo" or "ilu" is a root common to all semitic languages, meaning God. Aside from all the examples that you guys mentioned, I would add Babylon, in Akkadian Bab-ilu, or gate of the Gods. 'Bab" in this case is certainly gate, similar to Arabic (ex: Bab-el-mandab straits: the gate of tears). "Al", as Maju mentioned, means "the". Another example would be the biblical "Elohim", or "the gods".
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Posted: 23-Apr-2006 at 18:33 |
Decebal cant we add Sumerian too, i read somewhere the sumerians had a God named "Il ulu", since the word "ulu" means "holy" or maybe in sumerian "God" can taht be translated as "The God" too?
Or should i ask this to sharrukin?
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Posted: 24-Apr-2006 at 11:33 |
No. Elohim is just the plural form of "god" in Hebrew. The structure of the word changes in semitic languages when deriving new words or making it plural. For example "Etrak" means "Turks". Words are based on consonant groups such as "Trk" or "hfz". From "hfz", you can derive many words, muhafiz, muhafaza, hafiza, hafz etc. as I know.
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Garibim, namima Kerem diyorlar,
Asli'mi el almis, harem diyorlar.
Hastayim, derdime verem diyorlar,
Marasli Seyhoglu Satilmis'im ben.
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