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cattus
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Topic: Your opinion about the USA Posted: 03-Jul-2005 at 12:49 |
Nah, all this and im not sold. Im still convinced that those who hate us around the world is because our movies have gotten really bad over the past decade.
Originally posted by Komnenos
If that great Shakespearian actress together with her silicon chest and with both of her braincells wanted to come to America, than it can be all bad there!
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Yeah, shes a class act eh? ...and one of our newest citizens we can really be proud of. She actually was very cute before she moved to the US from BC.
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Thegeneral
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Posted: 03-Jul-2005 at 13:17 |
I don't think our movies are THAT bad . Star Wars was good, but War of the Worlds was not that great.
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Komnenos
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Posted: 03-Jul-2005 at 13:21 |
Originally posted by Gavriel
So if USA can bomb
Afghanistan/Iraq for harbouring terrorists can Britain bomb Dublin?
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Absolutely!
And Glasgow and London for harbouring the Protestant terrorist organisations UVF/UFF !
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Posted: 03-Jul-2005 at 16:53 |
The United States makes bad military-wise decisions. The war in Iraq only makes them look like the most hated country in the world. Bush needs to pull them out now!. And, Don't forget, the illegal bombing of my beloved country, Cambodia, but thats whole different topic to discuss. Nevertheless, the United States is still one of the BEST countries in the world part from the military mistakes. I hold no grudge.
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Posted: 03-Jul-2005 at 21:00 |
Pasha wrote:
Ironic coming from a country which doesn't dare offend the
Chinese, because it's too dependent on China picking up the tab at the
Treasury bill sales every month. |
I'll stay out of the America is great/America sucks debate. I do work
in the area of international trade, I know for certain the Chinese are
terribly nervous about US trade sanctions which would hurt their
ability to export here and impact growth. Much of the debt owed to
China is to fuel the export of their products to the U.S. market, so
the cards, in a sense are biased in the U.S. economy's favor ie; the
U.S. effort to pay back debt owed is less painful then the slower or
negative growth the Chinese would incur by sanctions. Even with
WTO accession, the Chinese have enough abuses in intellectual property,
dumping and labor infractions that sanctions would probably hold.
Only 22% of U.S. debt was owed to registered foreign investors in
December of 2003. Of that 22% only around 10% is owed to China (June
2004). Around 40% is owed to Japan, which has it's own debt
problems (see below).
National debt isn't something owed for nothing; it consists of outlays
for infastructure, education, health, research, defense, etc. The
debtor really doesn't matter, especially when that debtor- China- has
it's growth linked to the US market. To put in some perspective,
Germany's national debt is at similar per capita levels as the U.S. and
the Austrians, Belgians, Italians and Japanese have far greater
national debt per capita than the U.S. (I believe Japan's national debt
now lies at around 120% of GDP).
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Jalisco Lancer
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Posted: 05-Jul-2005 at 11:21 |
Originally posted by Thegeneral
We have not overthrown any democratic governmets. We put them in place of dictatorships. Do you by some chance live under a rock? |
Hi Gen:
Please check this website:
http://www.zompist.com/latam.html
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Posted: 05-Jul-2005 at 11:55 |
I see a lot of intervention on the part of the US. We support the better of two opositions. Democraies are not perfect. No form of government is. But America is a very good example and has set the way for amny other countries.
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Posted: 05-Jul-2005 at 12:51 |
Pinochet, Somoza, Batista, Huerta, Saddam ?
Well, then you were a little bit short of options, right ?
Who was that US President that replied during an interview about Nicaragua:
Yes, Somoza is a son of a b..t, but he's our son of a b..t ?
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Posted: 05-Jul-2005 at 13:35 |
I am sorry, I am not familiar with Somoza, Batista, Pinochet, or Huerta.
However, with the US helping Saddam, it was a good thing at the time. We could either help him or someone who was worse. It may not look like a good decision now,but it probally looked different back then.
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Genghis
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Posted: 05-Jul-2005 at 13:52 |
Jalisco, America also did not install Saddam into power, we just helped him when it was advantageous for us. Same with Batista I believe, he lead a coup and we recognized him, but did not lead a coup for him. Somoza, even though I don't know much about him, I also believe led his own coup. Pinochet of course was our doing.
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Komnenos
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Posted: 05-Jul-2005 at 14:18 |
Originally posted by Genghis
Somoza, even thoughI don't know much about him, I also believe led his own coup. |
The Somozas were a whole family of brutal dictators that ruled Nicaragua for half a century as a family enterprise, exploiting its wealth and surpressing any opposition.
When finally the people of Nicaragua had enough and tried under the leadership of the leftish Sandinista movement to overthrow the gangsters, the American government kept on supporting the last Somoza financially and militarily, until in 1979 they finally lost another faithful ally.
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Posted: 05-Jul-2005 at 15:08 |
Originally posted by Thegeneral
Democraies are not perfect. |
True, but they are rarely better than democracies.
Apart from that, it's not up to the US to decide who rules in which
country, especially not if the country in question is a democracy.
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Posted: 05-Jul-2005 at 15:12 |
Thank you for pointing out my spelling, Mixcoatl.
If its not up to the US then who is it up to? God?
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Posted: 05-Jul-2005 at 16:33 |
I think a lot of American girls are hot.
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Posted: 05-Jul-2005 at 16:35 |
Originally posted by vulkan02
I think a lot of American girls are hot.
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Yeah, I really fancied that one, what was she called again, the one who was sent to prison for torturing Iraqi prisoners? Anybody know her name or has a photo?
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Posted: 05-Jul-2005 at 16:35 |
Originally posted by Thegeneral
Thank you for pointing out my spelling, Mixcoatl. |
I made an error myself as well. I intended to say "dictatorships are rarely better than democracies".
If its not up to the US then who is it up to? God? |
the people
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Posted: 05-Jul-2005 at 16:43 |
u mean this one?
Lyndee England
I think she might be one of those sado-masochastic dominatrix girls
i feel bad for the dude tho he's humiliated. Nonetheless a lot of
American girls especially around Texas are pretty... too bad our nation
has a medieval and very individualistic mentality.
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Posted: 05-Jul-2005 at 16:57 |
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!
I wonder how many who chose to hate America would immigrate here in a heartbeat.
A friend was in Russia and a Russian expressed to him how much he hated America. So, my friend asked him if he was allowed to immigrate here would he do it.
The Russians response was yes!! he would love to immigrate to America.
hmmm wait a second I thought he hated us!!! or is it jealousy.
Do you hate us or are you jealous of us and our prosperity and freedoms?
It is good to see the majority on AE do not hate us!!
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Posted: 05-Jul-2005 at 18:13 |
Originally posted by vulkan02
too bad our nation has a medieval and very individualistic mentality.
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You think we are individualistic and medieval in our mentality? I must disagree. I believe we are a nation that sticks together especially in hard times. Except for around election time, of course!
As for our mentality, compare it to most countries in the Middle East.
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Posted: 05-Jul-2005 at 18:52 |
Originally posted by eaglecap
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!
I wonder how many who chose to hate America would immigrate here in a heartbeat.
A friend was in Russia and a Russian expressed to him how much he
hated America. So, my friend asked him if he was allowed to immigrate
here would he do it. The Russians response was yes!! he would love to immigrate to America.
hmmm wait a second I thought he hated us!!! or is it jealousy.
Do you hate us or are you jealous of us and our prosperity and freedoms?
It is good to see the majority on AE do not hate us!! |
Eaglecap... smart people are not jealous of anything .. except maybe
jealous of being less intelligent than other people. I dont think
anyone in his/her right state of mind "Hates" America but i also think
that anyone in his/her right state of mind should at least criticize
it. You contribute a lot more to your country by criticizing it than by
simply loving it. At least by doing so the country might move to
another state that is preferably more desirable but by loving it you
only preserve the status quo.
Most people who come to America would rather not... but they are
disadvantaged in their countries and they try to make the most of their
miserable lives(like many others in America and outside America) by
simply coming here.
First you must define of what you mean by "freedom".
A lot of other countries have American freedoms and some have more.
Most Americans work 40 hours per week and some others work even more.
Most have about 2 weeks vacation... the government in America has NO
vacation time as a law. Every other idustrialised country has that i
think even Australia and Japan. So all in all we are mostly a nation of
ants rather than people. There's nothing wrong with loving to work even
when loving to work about money but when its overdone i think you stay
ignorant ... you stay out of touch with people who know more about
other fields in life etc.
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