Europe and asia

Ralph payne is pro asian and exaggerated the range of the automatic cross bows and it's magazine size. The automatic crossbow was absolutely worthless on the battle field. The mongols have suffered a great number of serious defeats which led to it's withdraw from europe. Many of you people just read english sources about the chinese and they can be way off. I read chinese books about the chinese history and know what they are exactly like. The idea of arabs preserving the greek knowledge is incorrect. Europe was never less advanced in technology than the arabs and more advanced in the theoretical sciences like mathematics. the reason that the europeans were so strong is their culture. the western culture was more democratic than the east. The arab and chinese kings are extremely fataous and wasteful that the eruopean kings were more wise and controlled under the democratic system.

First about the court system, you are making your self look stupid by saying that. I can't believe you. And the chinese literacy thing, I'm chinese then why can't I read chinese? You are again making your self look like a shallow person by guessing my abilities.

*Voice Change*: His Holiness djdjd dosn't belive that dueling-trials existed so whoever says they did must be stupid!  Logical?

Here is a paragraph on medieval justice: Dueling is metioned. http://www.hyw.com/Books/History/justice.htm

How do we really know that you are Chinese? I may as well as claim that I am Chinese and then claim that I read ancient texts as well! Any idiot can claim to be Chinese who read millions of Chinese history books for the matter. Bring sources to back up your fantastical claims.

Bring your proofs on European Monarchial-Democracy. You sound like a White Supremeist to me.

Totally agreed mod. Except for the dueling thing - "Honour" sometimes played a greater role than the religion. If one strikes thee on the right cheek thrust the knife into...

Warhead,

He DID mention the Japanese--read it again:

Peace,

David

"I already pointed out that you called me racist and what I said bullsh*t."

... Your sentence dosn't make sense. So he called you racist, and then you suddenly said BS?

"go to hell you are an cheap asian jerk"

So you are a "Chinese"  and you insult people as "Asian jerks"....

I think this member should be seriously banned for racism

Warhead,

Your reading of the Spanish letter is rather selective, so I'll post the pertinent passages from it again:

The Japanese put out grappling-irons and poured two hundred men aboard the galley, armed with pikes and breastplates. There remained sixty arquebusiers firing at our men. Finally, the enemy conquered the galley as far as the mainmast. There our people also made a stand in their extreme necessity, and made the Japanese retreat to their ship.

So here, we have the Japanese boarding the Spanish galley in force.  They attacked at HTH, while being supported by a unit of arquebusiers.  They fought as far as the mainmast of the galley, and then were driven back.  Plenty of HTH fighting there.

They dropped their grappling-irons, and set their foresail, which still remained to them. At this moment the ship Sant Jusepe grappled with them, and with the artillery and forces of the ship overcame the Japanese; the latter fought valiantly until only eighteen remained, who gave themselves up, exhausted. Some men on the galley were killed, and among them its captain, Pero Lucas, fighting valiantly as a good soldier.

The above excerpt indicates that the Sant Jusepe did not overcome the wako vessel "with artillery"--the author states that the Sant Jusepe "grappled with them", and used both artillery and the "forces of the ship" (ie., the fighting men on board).

It's possible, though I doubt it.

Sounds like you're in denial about the situation overall, Warhead. 

TongShanThaiHiung said that Europeans and Japanese never fought in a melee situation, and I provided a couple of examples where they did, and won.

Peace,

David

I see...I will further research on that...

"Ralph payne is pro asian and exaggerated the range of the automatic cross bows and it's magazine size. The automatic crossbow was absolutely worthless on the battle field. "

Wrong.

"So here, we have the Japanese boarding the Spanish galley in force.  They attacked at HTH, while being supported by a unit of arquebusiers.  They fought as far as the mainmast of the galley, and then were driven back.  Plenty of HTH fighting there."

I neve rsaid there is no fighting, but its still a naval battle, with the problem of boarding and its organization is totally different than a field one.

"not overcome the wako vessel "with artillery"--the author states that the Sant Jusepe "grappled with them", and used both artillery and the "forces of the ship" (ie., the fighting men on board)."

Again I never said they never fought them with their hand, but artillery is one of the decisive weapons.

"Sounds like you're in denial about the situation overall, Warhead.  "

The situation just doesn't prove anything solid.

"TongShanThaiHiung said that Europeans and Japanese never fought in a melee situation, and I provided a couple of examples where they did, and won."

If you read his post careful he never mentioned the japanese. And he said that western melee isn't necessary superior, which was his point.