What is the cruelest army on Earth?

Phallanx good point.But one thing wrong,we hung them at the end of the day.They stood there from sun up,to sundown But the ones that were impaled were criminals(horrible ones).............. I may need to say you are wrong there.Vienna?constantinople?belgrad?All unarmed?We let them keep their religion

Man you have a real twisted view on historic facts.
NO Christian under the Ottoman rule was considered human, they had NO rights, they were always considered as sub-human, non-citizens untill the end of the Crimean War 1856 when a Treaty (Paris Treaty of 1956) was signed that specifically noted that there will be NO discrimination of RACE and RELIGION and all are to be deemed EQUAL.(Article 9 of the Treaty).

Proof that the ottoman never did honour their signature (something that is a norm for you) is that during the exact same year and those that followed. The non-muslims had to obtain a permit to build or repare their "places" of worship. The percentage of permits issued was only the 7% to the ones requested.

criminals(horrible ones)

Need I remind you of the Patriarch of Constadinopoli????
Hanged by the ottomans and his body thrown in the Borsporus, only to be found months later by a fishing boat and delivered to Odessa were he finally received a proper burial.

The MASSACRE of Chios? where we find a fleet of turks killing 5000 women and children, burning down everything in sight and selling the rest of the population as slaves.

Athanasios DIAKOS (real name Massavetas) escaped the Janissary at the age of 12 and fled to a church hence the title DIAKOS=deacon, in order to avoid the forcive conversion. This is who you call criminal!!!!!

Your basic difference to all other armies mentioned in the topic is you never saw it as a war between people or just a conquering campaigne, you have always seen this as a JIHAD which is why, there was no crueler army than the ottomans.You did what you did for one reason
 out of HATRED towards Christians.

Need I remind you of the Patriarch of Constadinopoli???? Hanged by the ottomans and his body thrown in the Borsporus, only to be found months later by a fishing boat and delivered to Odessa were he finally received a proper burial.

Gregorios was hanged because he supported the Greek rebellion with his follower Greek beys of Istanbul. He always idealised the new Christian Byzanthine Empire and he saw the Greek rebellions against the over tolerant Ottoman government as the only way to eliminate Muslim Turkish barbarians from history.

And yeah, we are humanity hater asian barbarians and we massacred 1,000,000,000 civilian Greeks. Satisfied?

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 First of all. I shouldnt even respond to that. You show disgraceful animosity toward my people.

I know my peoples history in the Ottoman Empire. But I also know Greece and Serbia's plans for Albania after they had just freed themselves from an oppressor. 

 

 

 And your acting like I should be angry at my past for it taking part in the empire. Im not. At all. We were able to rule ourselves and breach and take high rank and power in a foreign empire. Should I see a problem in that? However I wont act like I am proud of falling into the Ottoman Empire. Im not, my people fought hard to keep them out. and here is a quote from a Ottoman historian on Albanians Ibn-Kemal 1468-1531)

"The Albanians, these tigers of mountain warfare, have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on a legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapon for battle. "

It goes to show something that Albanians were still the ones free from Ottoman rule when all of the Balkans was being taken over.

Anyway, I did not sign up to this site for nationalistic disputes with people. So if your trying to get me into one. Please don't.

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Phallanx and his spirited mind, tell us if you know of any Greek atrocities towards conquered peoples. You know, the ones that you never mention. I guess you could count your lucky stars that those 'hated' Turks never did in your ancestors enough.

 My condolences,

p.s.-Hope you get over your illness soon.

Originally posted by Iskender Bey ALBO  First of all. I shouldnt even respond to that. You show disgraceful animosity toward my people. I know my peoples history in the Ottoman Empire. But I also know Greece and Serbia's plans for Albania after they had just freed themselves from an oppressor.

What is wrong with wanting to enlarge their state with more greeks/serbs/ or bulgarians after they broke away from the oppressor? Albania was not a state, it was more of a region with less than 2 million Albanians at the time, with considerable Greek, Bulgarian, and Serbian minorities, of course they "dreamed" of incoorperating them into their state, but today their is an Albanian state, so I guess these peoples plans were unaccomplished, to "destroy" the Albanian "state"

Seko, man you're once again totally OFF TOPIC.
The topic is  WHAT IS THE CRUELISET ARMY ON EARTH  while you present an article that mentions POLICE.
Don't know if they're the same thing in the US ( I doubt it ) or in Turkey (most probably) but here ARMY and POLICE are two individual "forces" with NO connection to eachother what so ever.

I do believe it was you that mentioned pathetic efforts to attack in every chance you get.


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ohh and by the way i think  the Japanese are the cruelest since were on the topic, however i also heard that Turkey committed a great genocide against Armenians in WW1 but that is still being debated.

i wasn't insulting any one im just speaking what the truth is

Oh wait,scratch that post,I'm sorry.They are mentioned,but they should be on this list!

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the assyrian when they destroyed babylon ,the babylonian when they destroyed jerousalem ,the mongol in the siege of baghdad ,the crusader they killed in one day more than 70000 muslims in holyland,the soviet army in the invasion of poland  and hitler army in masacared of jewish