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Topic: Tipu Sultan -do you know him? Posted: 13-Oct-2006 at 18:20 |
Originally posted by AP Singh
Hi Tipu,
I think the traitors have no religion at all. They are simple traitors and are the enemy of all the citizens. |
A sensible statement as usual. Couldnt agree more.
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Jonon
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Posted: 14-Oct-2006 at 00:57 |
tipu ?? is that baby killer muslim indian rebel?
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Posted: 14-Oct-2006 at 11:55 |
well sir mind your language and who are you referring to.please be more clear.
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Vivek Sharma
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Posted: 16-Oct-2006 at 02:11 |
Originally posted by Jonon
tipu ?? is that baby killer muslim indian rebel? |
You are right jonon. He was very cruel, animalistic traitor who died trying to flee in the face of the british attack.
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Posted: 16-Oct-2006 at 09:17 |
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Vivek Sharma
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Posted: 17-Oct-2006 at 01:11 |
He died while trying to flee from the british attack. The first place that the british went for to search him was his harem of numerous wives & the jananakhana (place where women stay), because they knew his reputation.
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Vivek Sharma
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Posted: 18-Oct-2006 at 03:33 |
Originally posted by Tipu Sultan
<Fowl language removed by Anuj Khamar>
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Thanks Moderator, but is your removing the post enough ? While the person who made the post still goes scotfree without even a warning or an apology.
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Vivek Sharma
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Posted: 18-Oct-2006 at 03:39 |
Anyway. Let's get on further. I should better forget this for I realise the futility of trying to correct someone who can resort to such things. Thanks to you again.
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Posted: 18-Oct-2006 at 03:51 |
I realised it before too.
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Posted: 18-Oct-2006 at 11:50 |
He died while trying to flee from the british attack. The first place
that the british went for to search him was his harem of numerous wives
& the jananakhana (place where women stay), because they knew his
reputation.
lol-yea he was a coward thats why he did not accept the british rule unlike other kings and preferred to fight them. Thanks Moderator, but is your removing the post enough ? While the person who made the post still goes scotfree without even a warning or an apology.
i did not state anything bad there but just said about the real cowardice of marathas and the rajput kings
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Posted: 18-Oct-2006 at 12:52 |
Anyway. Let's get on further. I should better forget this for I realise
the futility of trying to correct someone who can resort to such
things. Thanks to you again.
why are you running away from facts-lol
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Vivek Sharma
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Posted: 19-Oct-2006 at 02:55 |
Originally posted by Tipu Sultan
lol-yea he was a coward thats why he did not accept the british rule unlike other kings and preferred to fight them. He fought against the British because they did not recognise him as a king. Niether did the Marathas, The Nizam or for that any body in India, Even the Mughal Emperor did not recognise him as a King.
Nobody in India recognised tipu the traitor as a king & everybody wanted the original rulers back. The English, The Nizam & The Marathas had all decided that tipu, the tyrannt is to be killed or imprisoned.
Tipu the traitor was fighting the british to save his certain imprisonment or death. It was not a fight for freedom, it was a struggle for survival.
i did not state anything bad there but just said about the real cowardice of marathas and the rajput kings At that time the Marathas were the supreme power in India. They were Rajputs also. No need to spoil your hands with a traitor, when it can be outsourced.
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Posted: 19-Oct-2006 at 02:58 |
He died while trying to flee from the british attack. The first place
that the british went for to search him was his harem of numerous wives
& the jananakhana (place where women stay), because they, knowing his reputation, they were sure that he would be hiding behind the ladies. However he escaped out just in time.
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Posted: 19-Oct-2006 at 04:49 |
To the best of my knowledge only four wives are allowed in Muslim religion. How Tipu was having so many? If I am correct the Tipu was not a true Muslim and he only used (actually misused) the religion for his own gains.
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Posted: 19-Oct-2006 at 05:45 |
Originally posted by AP Singh
To the best of my knowledge only four wives are allowed in Muslim religion. How Tipu was having so many? If I am correct the Tipu was not a true Muslim and he only used (actually misused) the religion for his own gains. |
APji you are talking of four, Tipu had a whole Haram of wives, His sisters also lived there. Akbar had 300 wives. Shah Jahan had 5000. Look at the other sultans all across the world. A famous incedote is that Akbar used to play chess with his various wives acting as the pawns & minister etc... in the nude.
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jayeshks
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Posted: 19-Oct-2006 at 07:00 |
Um, those women weren't wives, they were concubines at best. Harems predate Islam and Christianity even and they included the concubines as well as their entourage of servants and relatives.
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Vivek Sharma
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Posted: 19-Oct-2006 at 07:21 |
Doesn't make any difference, they were all kept for the same purpose.
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Posted: 19-Oct-2006 at 07:59 |
Yes, but the point is this way they could maintain their 'piety' by officially not having more wives than was allowed. It was in response to AP Singh's post about having a harem conflicting with religion.
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Vivek Sharma
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Posted: 19-Oct-2006 at 09:00 |
Akbar is recorded to have three hundred wives. But then he was not muslim. So you may be right. I will try to research this wive thing..
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Posted: 19-Oct-2006 at 09:09 |
Originally posted by jayeshks
Yes, but the point is this way they could maintain their 'piety' by officially not having more wives than was allowed. It was in response to AP Singh's post about having a harem conflicting with religion.
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I also wanted to say the same thing. Officially they all were Muslims but unofficially they were all not Muslims and thus were not true Muslims. They were making fools of many other Muslims who were fighting and sacrificing their lives for these un-true Muslims for the sake of their religion. Now a days also you may find so many people ( Like politicians) who care a damn about their religion but keep making the religious people fools for their own sake.
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