Mighty Asian Navies!

Yes, India's new carrier would be an excellent asset for South and South East Asia. Considering that Thailand and India are excellent trading partners and brothers in culture, we also can protect the seas of the Adaman Sea and even in South East Asia (naval crossroats of Asia). With the combined fleets of the Indian Navy and the Royal Thai Navy, we would have a total of 3 air craft carrier, one VSTOL Thai carrier, one old Indian Virat carrier and a new Indian Varyag design carrier. With our combined surface fleets (destroyers, frigates, corvettes etc) nothing in Asia can stop us. A good check to the Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy.

Originally posted by I/eye 'we' 'our' 'combined' 'us'.. lol! it's sickening! lol! improve India's naval power 1% and that makes it a team! lol! oh and still, Japan > India + Thailand!! (the first one's a factorial, the second an exclamation mark) lol!

 

Lol Japan may spend more in defense that India and Thailand, but our navies and militaries are far more experienced.

And China?? You guys dont even have a carrier..the chinese are mere brown water navies..LOL!

You cant be a 'navy' without a naval-air superiority platform (air craft carriers) lol! China and japan dont have any..hence they are brown water navies and unable to venture out of their own waters.

 

Thailand and India RULE the South and South East Asian waters..

 

lol!!! 

 

 

Originally posted by King Chulalongkorn Yes, India's new carrier would be an excellent asset for South and South East Asia. Considering that Thailand and India are excellent trading partners and brothers in culture, we also can protect the seas of the Adaman Sea and even in South East Asia (naval crossroats of Asia). With the combined fleets of the Indian Navy and the Royal Thai Navy, we would have a total of 3 air craft carrier, one VSTOL Thai carrier, one old Indian Virat carrier and a new Indian Varyag design carrier. With our combined surface fleets (destroyers, frigates, corvettes etc) nothing in Asia can stop us. A good check to the Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy.

I have to say it's a bad comment. You are quite illy informed about the naval stuff.

The navy without a aircraft carrier is not necessarily the weak one comparing with the one who has a carrier. Otherwise, the Thai Navy is stronger than both the Japanese and Chinese. There are lots of reasons that Japan and China don't build a carrier at present though both of them has the capability. And there almost 10 countries in the world possess of carriers, but only five strong powers (the big 5 in the UN Security Council) have unclear submarines. China is a member of this "nuke sub club", which gives us a tremendous power of strategical deterrence. India , however, is just a bystander, despite of her jeanlousness . lol

Your knowledge on geopolitic is poor too, I am afraid. The Indian and Thais form an alliance to make a check to China? Things are just on the contrary. Please read more newspaper editorials written by the Indian hawks, who are charging China of setting up a strategical circle of containment around India. Pakistan, Burma,Thailand and even Bengal are all the alleged participants of this so-called "Chinese polt". 

Don't always demonize China by describing China as an aggressive war hawk. Please keep in mind that China and Thailand are very good friends and coming even closer now. China and India are also trying their best to better their bilateral relation too. We should say: 

With our combined power (dynamic economy, historian legacy, huge population and rich natrual resouces) nothing in the world can stop the rise of the great Asia!

Let's witness the Sino-Thailand friendship:

The Thai frigate made in China (totally four of this class)

Two more are under construction. (What had the Indian done for the modernization of the Thai Navy, my buddy?)

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Just because the Thai navy acquired one small VSTOL carrier and you say that Thai navy is stronger than the Japanese navy.

Do u know how advanced is Japanese navy? Mind you the Japanese are restricted in their military expansion due to their constitution and their navy is called Maritime Self Defense Force (JMSDF).  They have at least 4 Kongo class destroyers which are Japanese variants of USN Arleigh Burke destroyers.
JMSDF has at least 13 destroyers, 30 frigates and 18 submarines. I used the word 'at least' because I do not have the up to date figures. Not to mentioned other numerous  support ships which are essential to the fleet. And their total military budget is only around 1% of their total GNP and ranked among the top five in the world.

How about the Royal Thai navy?
1 small VSTOL carrier with at most 10 harrier planes and at most 10 frigates.

And you want to claim that it has 'blue water navy capacity'? In the world only three navies are classified as true 'blue water navies' which are the United States Navy, the Royal Navy of UK and the French Marine Nationale. One of the important factors you must consider is logistics. Do you really think that the Royal Thai Navy has the money, manpower and support ships to send the Chakri Naruebet into Falklands Islands? Even your carrier is now stucked in harbour and u want to talk about sending ur carrier overseas? Even the formidable JMSDF will have logistical nightmare in sending her fleet to another ocean to fight a naval battle without the support of land resources.

The stability of SE Asia is actually maintained by the presence of the US Pacific fleet not your small Chakri Naruebet. In East Asia and SE Asia the most formidable fleet is the US Pacific fleet. One Kitty Hawk in Japan = 8 Chakri Naruebet.

Originally posted by King Chulalongkorn   Sawaaat dee kap! Kap koon! Lol Sino-Thai relationship!!!!!   The day Thailand trusts China is the day the entire Thai race will collapse. NEVER. The ships China builds for us is sub par anyways...we need to buy American ships next time. As for India..believe me..more thais prefer to be friends with india (culturally and hisotircally and linguistically similar to Thai) than a communist godless China.   Cheers my chinese friend. Oh btw..dont read too much SINOSPHERE and SINODEFENSE..they're quite bad sources and I suggest you read more into Thai  defense startegies and articles..not your 'Chinese sources'   LOL!

Sawa Dee Kap!

Thank God! That's only your personal idea, not the Thai government's.  Let me tell u some business common sense. Man won't place a second order if he is not satisfied with the first delivery. In fact, the construction order for two more new frigates from the Thai Navy is the third one that the Chinese ship factory had obtained.  You know, China is not the only war ship builder in the world. Why the Thai Navy choosed China again and again? One word could give you the answer: TRUST!

The American? Don't you know that  fully delivery of the missiles that you ordered from the US had been delayed? There is empty space left on your frigates, which are still waiting for that the US made missiles to be installed on board. Too bad!!!

Originally posted by VSOP People Liberation Navy (PLAN) 24 destroyers, 72 submarines, 45 frigates. & JMSDF 13 destroyers, 30 frigates, 18 submarines Vs Royal Thai Navy 1 carrier (at most 10 Harriers) 10 frigates (which includes 6 made in PRC) Rule the South China Sea

Wrong!!!!

Thai Navy

Air craft carrier  1
Frigates            10
Corvettes         7  (2 coming)
Missile boats    6 (plans to purchse 4 more)
Patrol boats     29 (plans for 5 more)
Mine warefare  7
Amphibious      9
warfare
Support ships   15

I am not making fun of the JDSFN but look at the size of the Thai navy, its quite impressive for a nation our size and our GNP (500 billion) NOT BAD. As the thai economy continues to rise (7%) this year and in years to come, expect us to develop not only demographic factors but also increased military spending.

South east asia ...IS OURS.

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LOLLL!!! This coming from the Singaporeans..who right now are facing threats from a growing military of MALAYSIA..LOL!!! Singapore..be quiet man! Singapore comes to bangkok and participates with the CARAT exercises..its the fact that Singapore is 'friends' with Thailand..and the fact that Thailand will protect Singapore keeps the Malaysian military out of your door. LOL!!!!
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So are you implying that the people from East Timor, Brunei and Laos should keep quiet too?

1. CARAT exercises (Cooperation Afloat Readiness and Training)
CARAT is a regularly scheduled series of bilateral military training exercises conducted by USA with several Southeast Asia nations designed to enhance interoperability of the respective sea services.
The exercises are conducted in Thai, Malaysian and other waters.
You talk if as CARAT exercises are conducted in Thai waters alone. US naval ships also came to Thailand and participated in the exercises. My question is 'SO WHAT'?

2. Singapore is definitely in close relations with Thailand. Many Thai workers are working in our construction industry. Likewise Singapore is closer to Malaysia and citizens of both countries travel between the two countries for work. It is pure madness for a war to break out between the two countries.

3.  The Changi naval base in Singapore is big enough to accommodate an aircraft carrier. The base is often used by visiting ships of the US navy. My point is we depend more on US military support.  We do not depend on Thai military support, if we do, we are in big troubles.

4. And I have not touch on the capabilities of Singapore Air Force, which is more than sufficient to deter a potential enemy.


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Singaporean Air Force > entire Thai military

Royal Thai Navy has less than 38,000 tons in Carrier + Surface combatants.

People's Liberation Navy has more tonnage just with their patrol frigates..

rule the South China Sea

Very nice..very nice! I do admit some PLAN subs are beautiful. HMMM..something RTN needs..are subs.