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    Posted: 11-Mar-2006 at 20:46
I've been a fan of the compositions Dvorak, Beethoven, Bach, and Brahm. 

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  Quote flyingzone Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Mar-2006 at 20:55

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Chopin - so many...

Without doubt, Chopin's music is the most aesthetically pleasing to the ears. Maybe one could call me sexist, but sometimes I find it hard to believe that such stunningly romantic and beautiful music could come out from the brain of a man ... And unlike Tchaikovsky, Chopin, though sickly most of his life, wasn't even gay .... (And Tchaikovsky's music is extremely masculine. But of course, most gay men are masculine.)

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  Quote mamikon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Mar-2006 at 21:58
what makes you say that Tchaikovsky's music is masculine?
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  Quote dirtnap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Mar-2006 at 22:08
Flyingzone I am not sure about the rules on sexism or the details about gay people (no offense) so I dunno what to tell you and perhaps you should start your own thread on those subjects.

This thread is because we all hear amazing compositions but have difficulty finding them. Its a place to share some of the best songs you may know of, like below. I had no idea about that song until ArmenianSurvival mentioned his name.

violen concerto in E minor - Mendelssohn(godfather theme!)

Another awesome discovery...
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  Quote flyingzone Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Mar-2006 at 22:11

Of course it's quite subjective to call someone's musical style "masculine" (or "feminine"). But I think most music critics would agree that the emotions expressed in Tchaikovsky's music are very intense, raw, and passionate. They are not subtle at all. That's why I use the adjective "masculine" to describe his musical style.

Chopin's music, on the other hand, expresses emotions that are very subdued and refined. There's also a very poetic element to it too. Therefore I call it "feminine".

But that's purely my own interpretation.

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  Quote mamikon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Mar-2006 at 22:13
well that depends on which Tchaikovsky's piece of art you are studying, surely some of them are soft...
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  Quote flyingzone Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Mar-2006 at 22:22
OF COURSE. But whenever one's talking about a composer's musical style, there's some degree of generalization to it. For example, one would rarely use the term "poetic" to describe Bach's music. Most would see Bach's music as purely technical, if not mathematical. However, if you know his music well, you can definitely detect a very "poetic" element in some of his work (especially keyboard). This is especially striking considering the musical era he belonged to.
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  Quote mamikon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Mar-2006 at 22:25
ok, ok, lol...everyone has his own opinions, if you think Tchaikovsky's music is masculine then fine... Maybe many music theoreticians agree with you I dont know, but I find his music pleasing also.
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  Quote Imperator Invictus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Mar-2006 at 22:26
I thought raw, intense, and passionate are more feminine qualities... oh well.

My favorite compositions in recent times are:

Beethoven's 5th Symphony
Dvorak's 7th and 9th Symphonies
Beethoven's Emperor concerto
Tchaikovsky's "Polish" and Concerto No. 1
Shumann's 3rd and 4th symphonies.
Rachmaninov's 2nd and 3rd Concerti, and symphony No. 2
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  Quote mamikon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Mar-2006 at 22:28
I cant find the piano notes for Rachmaninov's 2nd Concierto, does anyone know where I could get them?
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  Quote dirtnap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Mar-2006 at 22:44
Originally posted by Imperator Invictus

I thought raw, intense, and passionate are more feminine qualities... oh well.

Damn it, I have been called that alot lately, WTH?

Originally posted by mamikon

I cant find the piano notes for Rachmaninov's 2nd Concierto, does anyone know where I could get them?


Dig through these sites, maybe

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  Quote mamikon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Mar-2006 at 22:47
awesome

so what thread do you need support on?


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  Quote dirtnap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Mar-2006 at 22:51
Originally posted by mamikon

awesome

so what thread do you need support on?


What do you mean?
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  Quote mamikon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Mar-2006 at 22:53
nothing, lol...thanks for the websites
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  Quote dirtnap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Mar-2006 at 23:12
I am a bit tired but I think I understand, hope the websites help, my girlfriend found them for me...

Rachmaninoff - Prelude In C Sharp Minor

This one is heavy he must have been somewhat angry when he wrote these notes but if you are in that kind of mood, its perfect.


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  Quote mamikon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Mar-2006 at 23:23
how heavy?

the heaviest that I have learned so far is Toccata and Fugue, if its heavier than that I am screwed
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  Quote dirtnap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-Mar-2006 at 23:45
Its a dark number, its not as heavy but along those lines such as:

Beethovens - Moonlight Sonata
Albinoni - D Adagio in G minor
Bach - Toccata & Fugue in D Minor



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  Quote dirtnap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Mar-2006 at 00:16
Can we pin this thread like the Poetry club and the book club?

You can rename it the Classical Music Club if you want, just an idea and it is certainly a worthy subject...

Is this possible?



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  Quote dirtnap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Mar-2006 at 17:26
Hope you can appreciate our efforts to create this list of classical music for everyone. Opinions will vary and there may be an error or 2 but I wanted to share the results thus far.

This list is not complete at all but these first 50 compositions are awesome in any order and I think they are the best, so far...

Hope to get plenty of feedback and more songs. Give yourselves a round of applause   





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1 Resident Evil (Moonlight Sonata) - Beethoven
2 Requiem - Mozart
3 D Adagio in G Minor - Albinoni
4 Carmina Burana (Oh Fortuna) - Carl Orff
5 Klavierkonzert # 23 - allegro assai - Giulini
6 Nocturne in G minor - Chopin
7 5th Symphony 1st Movement - Beethoven
8 Hungarian Dance no. 5 - Brahms
9 Bolero - Ravel
10 Canon In D Major - Bach (Pachelbel's)
11 9th Symphony - Beethoven
12 Greensleeves - Mozart
13 March of the Toreadors - Bizet
14 Pomp & Circumstance - Elgar
15 Fur Elise - Beethoven
16 Death & Funeral March - Wagner
17 Joy Of Mans Desiring - Bach
18 Spanish Caravan - Kennedy, Nigel & Coleman
19 Canon for Three Violins & Cello - Pachebel
20 Eine Kleine Nachtmusik - Mozart
21 Prelude In C Sharp Minor - Rachmaninov
22 Ride of the Valkyries - Wagner
23 Choral - Beethoven
24 Toccata & Fugue in D Minor - Bach
25 Symphony No. 40     - Mozart
26 Trepak from The Nutcracker - Tchaikovsky
27 Tango Flamenco - Paco De Lucia
28 Love Story - Beethoven
29 Marriage of Figaro (Maria Callas) - Mozart
30 Spanish Guitar Solo - Paco de Lucia
31 Violin Concerto in E Minor - Mendelssohn
32 Symphony # 6 - Mozart
33 William Tell Overture - Rossini
34 The Marriage of Figaro - Mozart
35 Prelude in G minor - Rachmaninoff
36 Sabre Dance - Khachaturian
37 Turkish March - Mozart
38 Ode to Joy - Beethoven
39 Nocturne in E minor, Op. 72, No. 1 - Chopin
40 Presto - Gould
41 Moonlight Sonata - Beethoven
42 Night on Bald Mountain - Mussorgsky
43 Piano Sonata # 8 in A Minor K310 - Gould
44 The Blue Danube - Beethoven
45 25 in G Minor - Mozart     
46 Canzonetta - Mendelssohn
47 Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairies - Tchaikovsky
48 Ave Maria - Beethoven
49 1812 Overture - Tchaikovsky
50 St. Matthew Passion - Bach

Thx for all the input everybody and keep them coming...
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  Quote mamikon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Mar-2006 at 17:51
Dvorak - Slavonic Dances!

Paganini - 24 Violin Caprices! (No. 24 A minor)

Liszt - Hungarian Rhapsody 1! and Hungarian Rhapsody 2!



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