Persian Words in Turkish

im not sure if they use this in turkey but certainly i think azeri use it it is hal ye ne? which means how are you and hal is same in persian meaning feeling.

saat is same meaning time in both languages.

bamya meaning that vegetable is same in persian.

aferin means well done,, same in persian

bahche means garden in both

dakika, same in persian daghighe

buran for storm in turk, baran for rain in persian

anyone mentino chay?? )

sheitan means devil in both

nefret means hate in both

pehlivan used in both meaning courageous strong noble man (not exactly sure on meaning)

duvar in both meaning wall,, divar in persian

kan in turkish meaning blood, khun in persian

hanim meaning mrs, same in persian khanim

kilim meaning carpet, same in farsi (actuially has something to do with carpet in farsi)

meydan meaning square in both (square as in victoria sqaure,, not the shape)

merkezi central in both, markaz in persian

mesched meaning mosque in both, masjid..

ruya meaning dream

sarap for wine in both

yunan in both meaning greece

renk/ rang meaning color in both

memur meaning official has persian background i think

sandalye meaning arm chair in turk, sandali meaning chair in persian

tarih meaning history ,, but i think has arabic origin rather than persian.

so there you go, there are many more, but id have to fill up two whole pages to put it all in.

and zagros i can speak a little turkish, i can speak torkian, and farsi

*torkian being mix of farsi and turk .

 COK GEC! lol stop it!! now i have to go againe and come up with another 20 odd words to post, and your going to go and retranslate them and arabicinanizate them....... THE THREAD NAME IS TURKISH WORDS SIMILAR TO PERSIAN ,, NOT TURKISH WORDS SIMILAR TO PERSIAN WHICH ORIGINALLY CAME FROM ARABIC. lol no harm done tho

and anyway, the words that i posted are pronounced exactly same in persian and turkish, but in arabic the pronounciation is different so harder to find similarities. dakika in turkisj is pronounced more like DAKHIKHE i think. which sounds like persian daghighe.

My comment I want to add is that how do we know these words are Arabized versions of Arabic words? they might (hold back cause it is crazy ) actually be Persian words that Arabs have Arabized hence the similarity, When dealing with the middle east everyone mixed and mingled and exchanged words and borrowed from each other.

That is my opinion, No offence to Arabs in this Forum but if you say they are abaic pplease for my sake present them so I see ie a thread, I know not much about linguistics but I know that the greatest linguistic expert in the world said that all languages are the same, it is how we use the vowels and sounds that makes them sound different.

Was he right I dunno but I like to believe

lol cok gec i didnt mean it in a bad way i was kidding around

Actually this is becoming quite interesting, i never knew words like saat, istikal etc came from arabic, I want to slightly deviate the thread, it would be great if the greek persian, turkish/turkic, armenian, arabic forumers posted words that could be similar and we all try and guess were it originally came from. Im quite interested in armenian aswell, i have only herd the language once in some movie, but not that much, it sounded like a cross between turkish, russian, persian and greek very interesting.

OK here are some persian words, you guys can translate them in your own language.

btw. let me know if it is a waste of time. i will stop my talking then

Desk --- Persian = MIZ

Book --- Persian = Ketab

Talking --Persian = Harf zadan

Love -- Persian = Esgh (pronounced eshk)

Tear ---Persian = Ask

Sea ---Persian = Darya

Mountain, Hill ---Persian = Tepe/ Ku

Prison ---Persian = Zendan

Cat/ Dog/ Horse/ Lion/ Elephant/ Bird/ Monkey

--Persian = Gorbeh/ Sag/ Asp/ Shihr/ Fil/ Parande/ Meymun.

ok cool now post away guys.

Desk --- Persian = MIZ---------Turkish = Masa---Arabic= Tawelah & Masa

Book --- Persian = Ketab---------Turkish = kitap--- Arabic= Kitap

Talking --Persian = Harf zadan------Turkish = Konushmak--- Arabic= Yatakallam

Love -- Persian = Esgh (pronounced eshk)--------Turkish = ashk---Arabic= Ishqh

Tear ---Persian = Ask------- Turkish = yash----- Arabic= Dam'ah

Sea ---Persian = Darya-------- Turkish = Deniz/Derya-----Arabic= Bahar

Mountain, Hill ---Persian = Tepe/ Ku-------Turkish = Dagh, tepe-----Arabic= Jabal, Tallah

Prison ---Persian = Zendan------Turkish = Hapishane, zindan----Arabic= Sejin

Cat/ Dog/ Horse/ Lion/ Elephant/ Bird/ Monkey

In Arabic: Quettah/ Kaleb/Husan/Asad/Fil/Ta'er/Querd.

a map of the Persian language and its related Iranian derivatives and langauges:

Those are clear examples of Aramaic and no one claimed them to be Arabic. However, it is a fact that Arabic words in Persians can be easily identified by their ends and form. Now, not to confuse that with the fact you can easily say every Arabic word in Persian is actually Aramaic, because simply Arabic is a derevative of Nabatean which came from Aramaic directly.

Im not sure about Sama & Zaman as being originally Persian. But I know for sure these are Persian words borrowed into the Arabic Language:

Bakht= Luck (equivelant to Haz in Arabic too)

Bosah= a kiss (another equivelant is Quoblah in Arabic)

Sharshaf= a sheet (like gheta' in Arabic)

Tadsheen= to establish, could be (Jashn in Ancient Persian).

  Anyhow, i found this webiste that makes it easy to trace Arabic words in Persian too for Persian speakers, a nice work of the National Middle Eastern Learning Resource Academy in Utah, USA:

http://nmelrc.byu.edu/handbooks/persian4.php

The Arabic root and pattern system is also used to derive plural forms of nouns in ways that seem strange and unpredictable to non-Arabic-speakers. For instance, the plural of kitab �book� is kutub �books.� Many Arabic words have been borrowed into Persian together with their plural forms. Persian dictionaries will list these words and their Arabic plurals separately. In other words, you do not have to figure out what the �root� of the word is in order to look it up. Persian speakers often do not use the Arabic plural forms and create new ones by adding one of the Persians plural suffixes to the Arabic singular form. Thus, Arabic �member� is borrowed into Persian as ozv and its plural �members� is borrowed as a�za�. However, in the course of time Persian speakers have created their own plural ozvha. Both plural forms are in use in Persian, sometimes even within in the same text. Both forms are acceptable in speech and in writing. The name of the infamous taliban of Afghanistan is similarly derived. It is in fact the Arabic word talib �student� suffixed with the Persian plural suffix �an. The actual Arabic plural of talib is tullab............(continue)