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    Posted: 23-Apr-2007 at 09:46
it is not a coincidens that more antic words can be expalined in albanian language
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Is Albanian Language the Oldest One?
 
Highly Unlikely.
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How old is the Albanian language ?Confused
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i am helping you with a source.
 
Pellazg in albanian means the "man of spelean" and we know perfectly that the first man came out from a spelean
 
Spelean in albanian =shpelle/shpellazg
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Which ancient words? Albanian ancient words? Other languages ancient words?
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How old is the Albanian language ?Confused
 
till the time of the first population of europe/mediterraen
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How old is the Albanian language ?Confused
 
till the time of the first population of europe/mediterraen
Year please ?Confused
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Originally posted by britani

it is not a coincidens that more antic words can be expalined in albanian language
is this a statement with proofS?

can you elaborate on how it is older than other languages, chinese, greek, Egyptian(church coptic  not arabic) , aramiac ...

please enlighten us liburni
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Originally posted by britani

How old is the Albanian language ?Confused
 
till the time of the first population of europe/mediterraen
 
You should have titled the thread : Is Albanian the Oldest European/Mediterranean Language in that case.
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Originally posted by britani

i am helping you with a source.
 
Pellazg in albanian means the "man of spelean" and we know perfectly that the first man came out from a spelean
 
Spelean in albanian =shpelle/shpellazg
What is the meaning of Spelean?Smile
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and to add smth a good part of "greeks"(antic)  gods have albanian names like Aphrodite,Dionisi,or Apollo etc
 
.>Aphroditi in albanian is 'aferdita" which means "the day near/day coming
 
>dionisi derives from the verb "di" (know in albanian) and "oni"(joni=ours)...so Dionis in albanian is "our knowledge/mind'
 
>Apollo is also explained by the first verb "ap' (hap in albanian/open) and "ollo" is the star in albanian (ylli/yllo)...so Apollo means the 'open star/the star opened
 
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yes.
spelean means cave
 
pellazgs were the first in this land and the first men didnt came out from a cave???
so pellazg in albanian means the man of the cave(shpelle in albanian/shpellazg)
 
 
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Originally posted by britani

and to add smth a good part of "greeks"(antic)  gods have albanian names like Aphrodite,Dionisi,or Apollo etc
 
.>Aphroditi in albanian is 'aferdita" which means "the day near/day coming
 
>dionisi derives from the verb "di" (know in albanian) and "oni"(joni=ours)...so Dionis in albanian is "our knowledge/mind'
 
>Apollo is also explained by the first verb "ap' (hap in albanian/open) and "ollo" is the star in albanian (ylli/yllo)...so Apollo means the 'open star/the star opened
 
 
Just bcoz Greek Gods have Albanian names does not mean Albanian is the oldest Language.
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Just bcoz Greek Gods have Albanian names does not mean Albanian is the oldest Language.
 
yes,just because greeks gods have albanian names means albanian language is the oldest (dont djudge me as a nationalist)
 
if you want i can go further......
 
lets take Achili"s mother and him too
>achili"mother is called Theti that was the god of water(if i can say so) and Theti in albanian means as well the water(so the sea)....Theti=deti(the sea)
 
>the word prince/princess is an international one and i want to explain a bit how albanian language can help us in this case......
.prince in albanian is explained by the word "prin"/prij/prina' that means the man who lead(lidership)....is this also a coincidens???
 
p.s  If we read Iliad carefully we see all the names there find their own meaning in albanian language
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Originally posted by britani

yes.
spelean means cave
 
pellazgs were the first in this land and the first men didnt came out from a cave???
so pellazg in albanian means the man of the cave(shpelle in albanian/shpellazg)
 
 
you didnt address my post.

AKAIK pelasgians didnt live in caves
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so britani are you pellazgs, arberese or gjuha shqipe ?
btw Achili (Achille if I understand) was Albanian ?
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  Is Albanian language the oldest one?Confused

I read somewhere that the Albanian language belongs to the Indo-European family of languages and that it is similar to Greek. Some say it is a continuation of the Illyrian language. It appears the earliest written document belongs to 16th century.

I am not sure about the age of the Albanian language. Most likely, it is not the oldest language.




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                        originally posted by akritas
so britani are you pellazgs, arberese or gjuha shqipe ?
btw Achili (Achille if I understand) was Albanian ?
 
let me explain(how my language help us for achille)
 
~we said above that his mother had a pure albanian name (theti=deti="sea/water in albanian")
~as for Achille,this word (name) in albanian would be translated like "AQ-I-LEHTI"and in english would be traslated as"so light".(the meaning of weight in this case)
~another epitet of achille's name was "ISPETI" and in albanian it means the same="i shpejti" (the fast in english)......Homer mentions always the phrase "speed" in Iliad.
~Achille"s horse was called "bal"(hektor"s too").Bal in albanian means smth colored with red and white color(this name is still in use in albania for the animalslike horse)
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Originally posted by britani

and to add smth a good part of "greeks"(antic)  gods have albanian names like Aphrodite,Dionisi,or Apollo etc
 
.>Aphroditi in albanian is 'aferdita" which means "the day near/day coming

Afroditi is Turkish, comes from the turkish expression "avrad idi" meaning "she is woman, wife, sweetheart". I even have a source for you:
http://www.polatkaya.net/Turkish_Era.htm
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Just bcoz Greek Gods have Albanian names does not mean Albanian is the oldest Language.

Sorgina, a small hint: Just bcoz britani says that Greek Gods have Albanian names does not mean Greek gods have Albanian names.
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britani is obviously trying to prove that Ancient Greek language is Albanian. Well, as far as i am concerned ,this is plain Censored Why?

First of all, the very term "Albanian" did not even existed in the Ancient Years . You may talk about Illyrian . You may say that Albanian are originated  in Illyrian ,but this does not mean that the Ancient Illyrian is Albanian.The very term Albanian may not  have appeared until the Late Medieval and early Ottoman times (if i remember correctly) ,but surely not earlier.

Secondly , since Albanian did not appear until the late Middle Ages,with the very term "Albanian" not have appeared until the Ottoman era ,is much more likely that they were influenced by the Hellenic language ,which was  spoken for ,at least ,1000 years in the area .

Thirdly ,it's not only the above . You do even not provide any sources!!!!!Wacko . I highly doubt if britani knows  Ancient Hellenic language or to work in an Ancient Hellenic text. ...............................


Edited by Spartakus - 24-Apr-2007 at 08:48
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