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Topic: What if Hitler had won WWII Posted: 20-Feb-2007 at 22:10 |
What would the world be like today?
Would it be much different?
Would most Europeans be speaking German?
Would ethnic cleansing have continued?
Would Communism have been nipped in the bud?
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Posted: 20-Feb-2007 at 22:18 |
Would it be much different?
Yes. It would.
Would most Europeans be speaking German?
Most Europeans would be dead. The survivors? Yes they would speak it.
Would ethnic cleansing have continued?
Up to the very end. They would wipe out Africa, Asia and most of the planet. No doubt about it.
Would Communism have been nipped in the bud?
Nazism was a form of socialism.
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Posted: 20-Feb-2007 at 23:37 |
Meh.. Stalin won, and we're not all speaking Russian :)
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Posted: 20-Feb-2007 at 23:57 |
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Yes A german dominated Europe facing an Anglo-American allience. Somehow I suspect the UK in this senario would be redefined as a North American country.
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Read the above
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maybe. It would certainly be the lingua franca for communication though
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Depends on the senario. Minorities like the Jews and the Roma only were wiped out as you say from 1942 onwards. Possibly a victory could have seen a reduced holocoust. Or alternativly a far more through one
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Communism would have been defeated.
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Posted: 21-Feb-2007 at 02:37 |
Hitler would get the most vote for the greatest hero of the mankind's history in AE website, and all AE moderators would be anti-semetic. All Jewish members would be out, as well as other "subhuman" races. I don't know if Japanese members would be tolerated, since they were Nazi Germany's ally, but who knows.
In school, we would learn about Nazism and the ideology of anti-semetism. German course must be taken. Blond hair and blue eyes would be a huge fad.
The finest school in the world would not be Harvard, but Berlin Univeristy or some kind of German University.
And the list goes on...
Communism would be wiped out for sure. Facism, by ideology, cannot accept the Communist point of view.
And yes, the most commonly spoken language would be German, though Hitler admired Britain before Operation Sea Lion was commenced. He may have allowed English to be dominant language.
To sum it up, all hell breaks lose!
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Posted: 21-Feb-2007 at 04:50 |
In Spain the Nazis did win. They stagnated, got old, died, and were replaced by a headonistic new order.
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Posted: 21-Feb-2007 at 06:57 |
Originally posted by Paul
In Spain the Nazis did win. They stagnated, got old, died, and were replaced by a headonistic new order. |
No, they didn't. The sympathisers of the Nazi's won, the politics that Franco used cannot compared with the ones that Hitler used.
But, I agree with the general idea, Nazi europe, like all the other authoritarian regimes would eventually degradate to smaller (democratic or sosialistic) states. My guess is that would propably occur after Hitler's death.
Edited by Giannis - 21-Feb-2007 at 07:01
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Posted: 23-Feb-2007 at 00:25 |
What would have happened to America?
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Posted: 23-Feb-2007 at 00:40 |
Originally posted by Timotheus
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New German colony.
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Posted: 23-Feb-2007 at 08:59 |
Originally posted by sirius99
Originally posted by Timotheus
What would have happened to America? | New German colony. |
I seriously doubt that, even if Germany could solve her internal problems in an occupied Europe with hundrends of nationalities, she wouldn't have the manpower and the means to continue a conquest or even an attrition war with the USA.
So, my opinion is that if Hitler won WWII, and if Germany had nuclear weaponry, the next logical step is a ''cold war'', between the two super-powers.
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Posted: 26-Feb-2007 at 07:41 |
Originally posted by pinguin
Would it be much different?
Yes. It would.
Would most Europeans be speaking German?
Most Europeans would be dead. The survivors? Yes they would speak it.
Would ethnic cleansing have continued?
Up to the very end. They would wipe out Africa, Asia and most of the planet. No doubt about it.
Would Communism have been nipped in the bud?
Nazism was a form of socialism.
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I doubt there would have been ethnic cleansing on the scale you predict there. It would, undoubtedly, occur. However, Hitler didn't possess the resources nor inclination to exterminate everyone. He focused most of his extermination on the Jews, Slavs and Gypsies. Also, Nazism wasn't really a form of socialism. The Nazi party was intended to be socialist, but what has become known as nazism certainly wasn't.
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Posted: 02-Mar-2007 at 05:17 |
If Hitler have won then more VW beetles would be in circulation. In fact we would have seen beetles from 1943. This model was inspired by Hitler and Porche Have helped him in design and constrction matters. Imagine if Hitler have wonn then all the Leopards would have porche engines.!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 02-Mar-2007 at 07:53 |
That is the wierdest insight i've heard in a while..
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Posted: 17-May-2007 at 14:34 |
Read 'Fatherland' by Robert Harris, best description you could ever ask for. Nazi Germany and the United States go into a Cold War, the Holocaust is still unknown to the general public and Stalin's Holomdor is publicized as the world's greatest injustice, nations in the Balkans, Scandanavia, The United Kingdom, and France remain independent but theya re incorporated into a Nazi-Friendly trade bloc. The United Kingdom is still a principal ally of the US but it is substantially weaker and Canada and the US are now stronger allies. China still remains communist and Japan was defeated by mostly an American/English force. After Britain surrendered it focused solely on its colonies in the pacific and aided the US so Japan was knocked out before 1945.
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Posted: 17-May-2007 at 14:36 |
Originally posted by pekau
Hitler would get the most vote for the greatest hero of the mankind's history in AE website, and all AE moderators would be anti-semetic. All Jewish members would be out, as well as other "subhuman" races. I don't know if Japanese members would be tolerated, since they were Nazi Germany's ally, but who knows.
In school, we would learn about Nazism and the ideology of anti-semetism. German course must be taken. Blond hair and blue eyes would be a huge fad.
The finest school in the world would not be Harvard, but Berlin Univeristy or some kind of German University.
And the list goes on...
Communism would be wiped out for sure. Facism, by ideology, cannot accept the Communist point of view.
And yes, the most commonly spoken language would be German, though Hitler admired Britain before Operation Sea Lion was commenced. He may have allowed English to be dominant language.
To sum it up, all hell breaks lose! |
operation sea lion was never commenced?
Edited by ChickenShoes - 17-May-2007 at 14:37
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Posted: 28-May-2007 at 11:51 |
Read Fatherland for a good look at what would have happened, Also I a diffrent note I ordered a couple of books on this subject last week.
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Posted: 03-Jun-2007 at 08:58 |
For Jews it would be worse. For Whites it would be same or better. For Browns, Yellows, could be slightly worse. For Reds and Blacks it wouldn't have made single difference.
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Posted: 03-Jun-2007 at 09:27 |
Another thing, if Nazism had won the global conquest, wouldn't Nazism have evolved(?) into Communism eventually? Once there is an absolute power wouldn't that power also control resource, labor and market naturally? Just because Germany and Soviets fought against each other it does not mean they didn't share same goal. Often that is the precise reason why people fight. Same line can be drawn to Capitalism also, since they all have same father Colonialism.
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Posted: 03-Jun-2007 at 10:53 |
I'd imagine for a great many whites it would be worse.
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Posted: 12-Jun-2007 at 00:26 |
If Hitler had triumphed, I would not be here to post this. Half the Germans would probably be dead; by now the Nazis would have managed to carry out their sentence (or at least most of it) on their "subhuman" races, which would leave them only to discriminate against their fellow Nazis.
Slavery would be revived as soon as the Nazis realized that they were destroying their own race by not letting the others live. But, yes, "ethnic cleansing" would still exist in forms.
The survivors would speak a dialect of German that was a mix with their original tongue. And Communism would exist; however, it would be corrupt.
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