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Capt. Lubber
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Topic: Bravest people ever? Posted: 20-Mar-2005 at 02:10 |
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Loke, Attila, the grete conqueror,
Deyde in his sleep, with shame and dishonour,
Bleedinge ay at the nose in dronkenesse,
A captayin shoulde live in sobrenesse
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Posted: 20-Mar-2005 at 06:32 |
Originally posted by Capt. Lubber
Originally posted by Capt. Lubber
Originally posted by aknc
Yeah the same old story....Brave outnumbered warriors defeated because of a traitor..... blahblahblah |
Eventhough you might have heard the story before, doesn't make them any less brave. And what does the turks do, to make them so brave?
Oh, the bravest were of course the vikings |
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really don't know.But it sounds like the Greeks changed the facts and made it more epic than it was. mean if you look at the war stories of old times some brave strong thing is betrayed or cheated and that's why they loose. mean look at Troy...
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Posted: 20-Mar-2005 at 16:17 |
Well, as they say, history was written by the winners, and that it is all but a lie we all agree on. Troy is probably very overrated, as it happened a very long time ago. When you hear of the glorious victory of the athenians, the gruesome defeat of Sparta is rarely mentioned as more than an after thought.
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Loke, Attila, the grete conqueror,
Deyde in his sleep, with shame and dishonour,
Bleedinge ay at the nose in dronkenesse,
A captayin shoulde live in sobrenesse
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Posted: 23-Mar-2005 at 07:10 |
Of course Mongolians.Because too few soldiers(about 123.000)conquered mostly parts of eurasia and dominated during 150 years.
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Posted: 23-Mar-2005 at 11:28 |
Chinese are the bravest people, because they eat all living beings like worm, cockroach, scorpion, fly, butterfly, locust, frog, rat, cat, dog and donkey without fear!
I think that is why the chinese have very ugly teeth.
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Posted: 23-Mar-2005 at 13:04 |
I agree these are gonna be biased opinions..including mine..
the Polish too many times have they been outnumbered and still ended up with victory, even look at WWII it almost seemed like it was the world against Poland, even it's allies stabbed them in the back. But look at the uprising of '44 and Monte Cassino. also battles like Somosierra or Kircholm, Kluszyn.
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Posted: 27-Mar-2005 at 08:35 |
I have deep admiration for lithuanian bravery in the past but i cant say that we are bravest ppl at moment .Our army probably wouldn't shoot a bullet for it's motherland in face of danger...everybody would rise their arms and go home under beautiful white flag:0.....
i love my country but this is reality...even the forever mighty germans and jepanese...had had enough of wars they look very calmly by now
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Posted: 27-Mar-2005 at 11:53 |
Heres my choice, feel free to add or rearrange
1. Spartans
2. Mongols/Tartars
3. Germans
4. Ghurkas
5. British
6. Americans
7. Israelis
8. Japanese
9. Turks
10. Arabs
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Posted: 27-Mar-2005 at 12:00 |
That is a fine list but why are Arabs on?
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Posted: 27-Mar-2005 at 12:51 |
Well at one time the Arabs were brave enough to conquer most of the
Middle East, North Africa and half of Asia upto India/Central Asia.
They also toppoled the Persian Empire, and conquered all of the
Byzantian provinces in the Middle East. In North Africa and Spain Arabs
reached as far as Southern France, and on the otherside of the world as
far as India and Central Asia.
in other words they conquered from Spain to India, in my book that gets a bravery tick
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Posted: 27-Mar-2005 at 13:48 |
Originally posted by wiseking
Heres my choice, feel free to add or rearrange
1. Spartans 2. Mongols/Tartars 3. Germans 4. Ghurkas 5. British 6. Americans 7. Israelis 8. Japanese 9. Turks 10. Arabs
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British? Are you joking, or being sarcastic? No offense, but I think in a poll of "the most coward and sneaky people ever", they would be on top of list.
They even didnt fight in their armies. Their colonial slaves or dependent civilians fought for them. Some of their commanders were gambling in their super lux warships when Anzac soldiers were fighting for nonsense British. You should have a look at history, and watch the movies "Braveheart", "Gallipoli" and another movie (I couldnt remember its name now) about their "brave" battle with "Zulus".
Americans? Bombing civilians shows how brave they are. Their bravery is only enough to throw bombs from air. Bravery shows itself in a battle of teeth to teeth, like the war of Vietnam.
Arabs can be brave when they are provoked by a sneaky British...
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Posted: 27-Mar-2005 at 13:57 |
I call bravery to fight for your beliefs, honor and independence like a man. I call braveary to run against enemy when you know you'll die. Bravery is to sacrifice yourself in the name of your nation and beliefs. But to fight with your honor.
So I can list some of the bravest nations in history:
Turks
Japanese
Mongols
Tatars
Scottish and Irish
Zulus
American Indians
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Posted: 27-Mar-2005 at 13:58 |
Every country has it's examples of bravery,other big, other small.The truth is that bravery is not only related to battles but also to our everyday life.Some things need the same bravery as the one in battle.
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Posted: 27-Mar-2005 at 22:27 |
I agree
The American Indians
The Turkic tribes
The Kelts
The Germanic Tribes
The Mongols and Huns
the Greeks, espcially with the Italians and Germans
the Romans
the iberians
and Pee wee herman -
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Posted: 28-Mar-2005 at 03:44 |
Originally posted by wiseking
Heres my choice, feel free to add or rearrange
1. Spartans
2. Mongols/Tartars
3. Germans
4. Ghurkas
5. British
6. Americans
7. Israelis
8. Japanese
9. Turks
10. Arabs
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well this is not a bravest-people list obviously, it is a once-successful-people list.
U put Israelis, Arabs and British among Germans, Japanese, Mongols, etc?
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Posted: 28-Mar-2005 at 05:00 |
Originally posted by Oguzoglu
Originally posted by wiseking
Heres my choice, feel free to add or rearrange
1. Spartans 2. Mongols/Tartars 3. Germans 4. Ghurkas 5. British 6. Americans 7. Israelis 8. Japanese 9. Turks 10. Arabs
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British? Are you joking, or being sarcastic? No offense, but I think in a poll of "the most coward and sneaky people ever", they would be on top of list.
They even didnt fight in their armies. Their colonial slaves or dependent civilians fought for them. Some of their commanders were gambling in their super lux warships when Anzac soldiers were fighting for nonsense British. You should have a look at history, and watch the movies "Braveheart", "Gallipoli" and another movie (I couldnt remember its name now) about their "brave" battle with "Zulus".
Americans? Bombing civilians shows how brave they are. Their bravery is only enough to throw bombs from air. Bravery shows itself in a battle of teeth to teeth, like the war of Vietnam.
Arabs can be brave when they are provoked by a sneaky British...
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Yes I agree the British are not one of the bravest(In fact they are one of the most cowardly)
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Posted: 28-Mar-2005 at 05:17 |
Wel said
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Posted: 28-Mar-2005 at 11:04 |
The Portuguese. Because they have to live in Portugal.
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Posted: 28-Mar-2005 at 11:06 |
Originally posted by Gazi
Yes I agree the British are not one of the bravest(In fact they are one of the most cowardly) |
And where is this evidence of English cowardice, pray tell?
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Posted: 28-Mar-2005 at 17:04 |
Originally posted by Degredado
Originally posted by Gazi
Yes I agree the British are not one of the bravest(In fact they are one of the most cowardly) |
And where is this evidence of English cowardice, pray tell?
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For example at the battle of Albuera in Spain during napoleonic wars single regiment of polish lancers made thousands of brits run away. British officers reported that brigade of polish cavalry was attacking them while it were only about 500 lancers (1 regiment). Poles in this battle took 5 colors of british regiments.
Battle of Fungirola also in Spain, 1810, 300 polish infantry attacked 1200 british, 1000 foreign and another 1000 spanish soldiers who after night battle run away, captured british commander general Lord Blayney (his saber is still held in Poland) and all the british canons. Brits had also warship Rodney and 2 or 3 frigates which all together had over 100 canons. Polish captains Bronisz and Mlokosiewicz defeated british general and his army being outnumbered 10:1.
I only dont know why in the most of statistics the battle is counted as French victory while there were only Poles, 11 french husars and 2 polish officers playing the role of commanders.
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