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Topic: Empires Posted: 25-Oct-2005 at 03:35 |
Which Great Empires Ruled The World For The Longet Time
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Posted: 25-Oct-2005 at 03:57 |
Well Roman empire went for around 1100 years and if you connect that one with the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire= another 1050 years) So combined total around 2200 years for the Roman Empire...thats probably the longist I can think of.
But the Egyptian culture went for about 3-400 years.
And then their are the Greeks, Sumarians, Assyrians and others but I'm not sure on the dates of those.
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Posted: 25-Oct-2005 at 05:01 |
Originally posted by HALOMAN
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No empire has ever ruled the world ???
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Posted: 25-Oct-2005 at 05:48 |
Originally posted by tadamson
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No empire has ever ruled the world ???
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Well Haloman if u meant the longest continuing dynasty then I guess the answer is the present Japanese Royal Family .
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Posted: 25-Oct-2005 at 07:39 |
Originally posted by tadamson
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No empire has ever ruled the world ???
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LOL.
Longest continuous nation state to achieve consistent hegemony over a large region would definitely be China.
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Posted: 25-Oct-2005 at 08:00 |
There is just one answer:
Achaemenid Empire which ruled almost the entire known world for about 250 years!
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Posted: 25-Oct-2005 at 08:20 |
Well you are correct again. I would have liked to say Roman Empire again but it is wrong so i am not saying anything.
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Posted: 26-Oct-2005 at 05:57 |
Originally posted by Aucatag
Well Roman empire
went for around 1100 years and if you connect that
one with the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman
Empire= another 1050 years) So combined total
around 2200 years for the Roman Empire...thats
probably the longist I can think of.
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There is not much support on this issue and if it had
been around for continunous of 2200 years, the full
language and writing character should have been
survived and widely used until today by at least 1/4 of
the earth population.
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Posted: 26-Oct-2005 at 08:59 |
There are three ways to respond...
#1 Empires that ruled a significant proportion of the Globe..
Mongol
Spanish
English
but these didn't last very long.
#2 Empires that lasted a long time (with the odd gap).
Egypt (2900 years, 2950BCE 1st Dyn - 30BCE becomes Roman province)
Rome (2200 years, 753BCE first king - 1453CE fall Constantinople)
China (4000 years, 2100BCE Xia Dyn - 1911CE fall of Quin)
China probably doesn't count as there was a distinct change of location in some of the periods of forign rule.
#3 Longest more or less contiguous was Egypt (800 years for Early
dynastic/Old Kingdom, 800 years for New Kingdom), or China (700
years united under Yuan, Ming and Quin).
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Posted: 26-Oct-2005 at 11:12 |
If China is discounted because of periods of foreign rule, then so
should Egypt. Its independence was breached by the Hyksos, the
Assyrians, Persians, and Macedonians.
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Posted: 26-Oct-2005 at 21:26 |
Great Roman empire did not last 1100 years, it last 31 b.c.-476 a.d. which is 497 years
In fact The Longest one is Ottoman 1299-1922
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Posted: 26-Oct-2005 at 23:52 |
Originally posted by Janissary
Great Roman empire did not last 1100 years, it last 31 b.c.-476 a.d. which is 497 years
In fact The Longest one is Ottoman 1299-1922
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Why can we not say the Roman Empire lasted until 1453? The Eastern portion was a continuation of the Empire, with a monarchy whose line of succession stretched all the way to Augustus unbroken. They maintained the Late Antique urban culture, the religionof the Later Roman Empire, and its political and idelogical basis. Because of that we can say that Rome was effectively an Empire from about 212 BC (permanent hold in Spain) until it was extinguished in its last effective forms in 1453, 1458 abd 1461.
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Posted: 26-Oct-2005 at 23:58 |
Definately China if can count in all the rebellions overthrows revolutions etc... China has been around the longest.
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Posted: 27-Oct-2005 at 00:00 |
If not China I would say the Roman Empire.
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Posted: 27-Oct-2005 at 00:02 |
the full
language and writing character should have been
survived and widely used until today by at least 1/4 of
the earth population. |
Why?
Whats the magical 1/4 number got to do with anything?
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Posted: 27-Oct-2005 at 06:14 |
Originally posted by Cywr
the full
language and writing character should have been
survived and widely used until today by at least 1/4 of
the earth population. |
Why?
Whats the magical 1/4 number got to do with anything?
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? It limits you to 'empires' that spoke English or Mandrin
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Posted: 27-Oct-2005 at 22:45 |
Originally posted by Janissary
Great Roman empire did not last 1100 years, it last 31 b.c.-476 a.d. which is 497 years
In fact The Longest one is Ottoman 1299-1922 |
Someone is under the influence of Gibbon (and whoeverelse who does not think the Empire after 476AD deserves the name "Roman")
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Posted: 27-Oct-2005 at 23:17 |
Edward Gibbon, how I despise him with his disdain for Byzantium and his
sensational grasp over the English language. Edward Gibbon... how I
despise you...
To get more specific about China, I believe the Chou Dynasty lasted some 771 years.
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Posted: 28-Oct-2005 at 00:00 |
After 476, there was Byzantium empire
If it was not, then why in every topic u give it as a seperate and one of the strongest empires of the world???
They had commonly another military system, and had no any senate
They even had no many Roman names
This empire was great and reach becouse of Silk, but not trade and slavery as Roman
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Posted: 28-Oct-2005 at 00:02 |
Rome was The FIRST empire, but wasn't the best
I think Arabian was more beautiful empire that was built on justice and respect
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