Similar battle deaths of 300!

Good to having you actually read my posts! You are welcome to make any contribution, even detrimental to me and my posts! Intellectual discussion is of great importance to me.

Welcome and regards/prosit!

Ron

Still, no takers? Yawn!

So, did but one of you read the above?

Have any of you actually read all of the posts of mine above?

You know it is easly to denigrate my posts, without reading them, but I would suspect that it is more difficult to denigrate them if you actually have read them?

Regards,

Three months later, I still say;

Ditto, to the above!

I have some new info below.

Edited by opuslola - 02-Jun-2011 at 11:52

Come on! Did not one of you actually follow the links I have given above?

NOT ONE?

It is not rocket science! It should not cause one of you to decide to commit suicide!

Is it lazyness? Or is it merely in the complacency of your commentment to our "Casual History?", or more correctely our "Consensual History?"

If all of the words and sites, I have presented to you all above, have not caused any of you to caste doubts upon most all of your "preconceived notions" about the "consensual history", then you have not followed my leads!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can only consider most of you as "lazy", or condemed to the "consensual version!"

I just dare any of you to take apart my views, vis-a-vis the current establishment!

I dare you!

Edited by opuslola - 27-Jan-2011 at 20:27

http://www.allaboutturkey.com/conquest.htm

From the above, which concerns the conquest of Istambul by the Ottomans, we can read about another battle where a group of 300 warriors / knights were sacrificed and died!;

“29 May, 1453---Platoons positioned for the assault. Sultan Mehmed gave the order to attack at midnight. Inside Constantinople, while the soldiers positioned for war, people filled the churches.

The Ottoman army launched its final assault accompanied by commemoration of God and beats of drums. The first assault was performed by infantry and it was followed by Anatolian soldiers.
When 300 Anatolian soldiers were martyred, the Janissaries started their attack.

With the presence of Sultan Mehmed, the Ottoman army was motivated and chest to chest fights started. Meanwhile the young soldier called Ulubatli Hasan who first erected the Ottoman flag on Byzantine land fortresses was martyred. Upon the entrance of the Janissaries from Belgradkapi and the surrender of the last defenders in Edimekapi front, the Byzantine defense collapsed.
Abandoned by his soldiers, the Emperor was killed during street skirmishes.”

Thus from the above we see that 300 Anatolian soldiers were martyred in the attack upon Byzantium! The brave and the dead 300! The dead “witnesses!”

After all of the above, it seems I am left with nothing else to say?

But you might well be wrong?

Notice in my above postings the mention of the words "issus" or Issos", etc.! You might well have to resort to re-reading the above to make sure?

Thus, if you have now become familar I will propose a similar relationship, that can be found here;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Naissus

In part, the following words are somewhat important;

"The battle of Naissus came about as a result of two massive invasions of "Scythian" tribes (as our sources anachronistically call them) into Roman territory between 267 and 269. The first wave came during Gallienus' reign (267) and started when the Heruli, raiding on 500 ships,[10] ravaged the southern Black Sea coast and unsuccessfully attacked Byzantium and Cyzicus. They were defeated by the Roman navy but managed to escape into Aegean Sea, where they ravaged the islands of Lemnos and Scyros and sacked several cities of the southern Greece (province of Achaea) including Athens, Corinth, Argos and Sparta. Then an Athenian militia, led by the historian Dexippus, pushed the invaders to the north where they were intercepted by the Roman army under Gallienus.[11] He won an important victory near the Nessos (Nestos) river, on the boundary between Macedonia and Thrace, with the aid of the Dalmatian cavalry. Reported barbarian casualties were 3,000 men.[1] Subsequently, the Heruli leader Naulobatus came to terms with the Romans.[10]

In the past, the battle on the Nessos was identified as the Battle of Naissus, but modern scholarship has rejected this view. On the contrary, there is a theory that the victory at Nessos was so decisive that Claudius' efforts against the Goths (including the battle of Naissus) were no more than a mopping-up operation.[12] After his victory, Gallienus left Marcianus in place and hastily left for Italy, intending to suppress the revolt of his cavalry officer Aureolus.[13] After Gallienus was assassinated outside Milan in the summer of 268 in a plot led by high officers in his army, Claudius was proclaimed emperor and headed to Rome to establish his rule. Claudius' immediate concerns were with the Alamanni, who had invaded Raetia and Italy. After he defeated them in the Battle of Lake Benacus, he was finally able to take care of the invasions in the Balkan provinces.[14]"

I would also ask you to consider the connection (if any) between the descriptions of the Scythians (sp) and the (Mongolian) Horde, and the relationship of the mounted knight to his horse?

I then would suggest that you look to mythology and the "centaurs!"?

Perhaps some of you might well look up the exploits of the Heruli?

Edited by opuslola - 29-Dec-2010 at 17:09

Thanks Mosquito! I understand the conventional thought concerning both of the above! But, is a fact that writers and historians have always stressed the 300 Spartans above the 700 Thesbians, 400 Thebians, and the men who accompanied each knight!, etc.!

And, again we are merely told that "poverty" was the reason for the depiction of the Templars riding two to a horse! Other implications (such as mine) are never considered!

Here is another case of a famous unit of 300 Knights (mounted!)

http://l-clausewitz.livejournal.com/442530.html

These winners are mentione thus;

"Deep columns and wedges also saw some use. The best evidence we have for them is the description of the Swiss-Nuremberger formation at the Battle of Pillenreuth (1450), where their cavalry was arranged so that the first rank was made up of the five bravest men, the second of seven, the third of nine, the fourth of eleven, and the last of fourteen. We don't know the exact details about the gradation in the breadth of the ranks between the fourth and the last, but in any case the formation as a whole would have been more than twenty ranks deep since it was supposed to include at least three hundred men. Hans Delbrück, finding that this formation stood at odds with 19th-century cavalry doctrines that required a charging formation of horsemen to operate in line for maximum impact, argued that the deep wedge was used only during the approach march and that it would naturally have evolved into a broad (if still rather deep) line as it drew closer to the enemy. However, other historians have pointed to examples like the French cavalry column at the Napoleonic battle of Eylau or 10th-century Byzantine cataphract wedges as evidence that the Nuremberger wedge was really meant to operate as described, smashing through the enemy's ranks by virtue of its sheer mass and the tightness of its formation. Interestingly, Albrecht "Achilles"--the leader of the opposing faction at Pillenreuth--also seems to have deployed his men in a similar wedge-tipped column formation, and he advocated it again when he gave some tactical advice to his son Johann "Cicero" in 1477."

If you want to have a little fun, just avail our self with 300 small coins or other items and arrange them as mentioned above!
Regards, as always!





Edited by opuslola - 15-Dec-2010 at 15:20

2 Templars on 1 horse had no homosexual conotation. This symbol was rather designed to stress that they are so poor. I remember Iv seen it in Robin of Sherwood british TV series made in 80ties by BBC with Michael Praed as Robin.

While not quite the end of my points, the next site actually shows a cross section of all of the battles fought at Thermopylae!

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?104560-The-Five-Battles-of-Thermopylae&p=2292247&viewfull=1

But, it may indeed show the most strange semi-relationship?

It seems that 335 men died there in 1941, facing the Nazi's!

Regards,