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    Posted: 03-Feb-2007 at 20:31
Originally posted by Brainstorm

Does it still seem a different story?

Yes, since that event occured in a police station.

At first, the media claimed that it was a gendarme HQ, but the general staff denied in a harsh tone.

I knew it from the beginning. There are many far right nationalists among high ranking police officers.


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Originally posted by Feanor


Originally posted by Brainstorm


It seems that there are many Turkish citizens who believe that military and para-military organizations should not get involved in politics


True enough, but that's a different story.





Does it still seem a different story?....
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Originally posted by DayI

so after seeing this picture and also the video, was it the "deep state" or the state self who organized that crime? what would you all think?

Why would the 'deep state' bother with Hrant Dink? No, I do not see any connection.

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Originally posted by DayI

so after seeing this picture and also the video, was it the "deep state" or the state self who organized that crime?

what would you all think?
I assumed when i first heard about this 'deep' state, it was just a hard core of powerful ultra conservatives within the military and their supporters within the rest of state apparatus.

I have to ask; is it really organized or more a motley collection of like minded groups?
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so after seeing this picture and also the video, was it the "deep state" or the state self who organized that crime?

what would you all think?
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Bunch of idiots...including Trabzon and Istanbul's police commander in chiefs.All have to be fired.
 
Hope they do! Apparently this is the picture and related article:
 
Photo%20dated%2021%20January%202007%20shows%20suspect%20Ogun%20Samast%20with%20Turkish%20flag
 

Ismet Berkan, editor of the Radikal newspaper, said that the footage proved "that the murderer and his associates are not alone, that their supporters... have penetrated all segments of the state".

Police spokesman Ismail Caliskan said an investigation was under way into officers seen in the footage, as well as into who leaked it to the media.

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Originally posted by Yiannis

Apparently there're some developments in the Hrant Dink's killer case. He was spotted, after the murder, posing with police officers who apparently praised him


Bunch of idiots...including Trabzon and Istanbul's police commander in chiefs.All have to be fired.
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Originally posted by Yiannis

Apparently there're some developments in the Hrant Dink's killer case. He was spotted, after the murder, posing with police officers who apparently praised him

I don't know what to say. I feel so much hate...

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Apparently there're some developments in the Hrant Dink's killer case. He was spotted, after the murder, posing with police officers who apparently praised him:
 
Turkey probes Dink suspect video
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Mr Samast was charged last week with Hrant Dink's murder
A probe has begun in Turkey after a man charged with killing a Turkish Armenian journalist appeared in a video posing with police and the national flag.

Footage showed Ogun Samast, 17, in front of one flag and holding another while uniformed police posed with him.

The images caused shock in Turkey, with one newspaper suggesting the teenager was treated like a hero.

He is accused of killing Hrant Dink, who was shot dead outside his newspaper offices in Istanbul on 19 January.

Mr Dink was well-known for writing controversial articles about the mass killing of Armenians by Turks during World War I. He had been the target of multiple death threats from Turkish nationalists.

His murder triggered anger and shock across Turkey.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6323887.stm
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Originally posted by Feanor




 
Who is this guy?
 
I dont know. But he could be Russian militaric diplomat. Because i heardthat he is an Armenian and he visited  funeral.


Edited by erkut - 30-Jan-2007 at 10:50
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Originally posted by mamikon

Turkish Nationalists have declared that those marching are Armenians, Kurds, and Leftists, and that "real" Turks did not go to the rally.
 
There is not something like this. You are getting nonsense information. Turkish nationalist are opposing that "yes we are sorry too from Hrant Dink's murder but you are exaggerating by saying we are all Armenians". 
 
 


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and we are armenians.(I think this is what nationalist greatly dislike.)
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most of them say "We are all Hrant Dink"
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Just out of curiousity, what does those round black signs they are carrying say?
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who are this Turkish nationalist? I am not aware of such accusation.
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Turkish Nationalists have declared that those marching are Armenians, Kurds, and Leftists, and that "real" Turks did not go to the rally.
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Originally posted by bg_turk

Some images from the funeral in Istanbul:

http://www.milliyet.com.tr/content/galeri/yeni/goster.asp?id=4&galeriid=789





I take my hat off to them.
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...The building housing the Agos offices was surrounded and searched by security forces on Thursday morning. Although they found no explosives there, two police officers stayed on to guard the entrance to the building.

Later in the day, police in Ankara blew up a suspicious package outside the Turkish parliament which carried a TIT note calling for the release of the two main suspects in the February 19 shooting of Dink. The package contained a timer but no explosives, police told Reuters news agency. The note warned that real explosions will follow unless Ogun Samast and  Yasin Hayal are released...

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Originally posted by Brainstorm

It seems that there are many Turkish citizens who believe that military and para-military organizations should not get involved in politics

True enough, but that's a different story.

Originally posted by bg_turk


Who is this guy?
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